Can the Gay Rights movement be compared to teh Civil Rights Movement of 1960s?
By II2aTee
@II2aTee (2559)
United States
December 8, 2008 12:16pm CST
Controversy! Yes… I’m at it again!
A few days ago a couple friends of mine were having a well mannered disagreement. One of my friends said that the Gay Right Movement is just like the Civil Rights movement of the 50’s and 60’s. My other friend disagreed and said that they are nothing alike.
I don’t usually reveal my opinion at the start of my discussions, but it’s warranted this time. I agreed with my friend who said the two movements are similar, and this is why.
Before I start I want to make it clear that I do not mean to take any importance away from the Civil Rights movement of my parents and grandparents’ era. Clearly the two groups face different challenges and hardships, but I think some very clear parallels can be drawn.
So lets pretend we are living back in America during the 50’s and 60’s. This may not be a very hard task for some of you older MyLotters… and I DEFFINATLY want to hear from you who lived in that era!!! So lets forget about the Gay Rights movement for a moment and just remember the Civil Rights movement for now.
White culture owned the all. This is not to say black people were not allowed on in… but it was in small pieces. A popular TV program may have a “Negro Day” once a week. White people and Black people were “separate but equal”. White people could go into a “White Restroom” and not be afraid of seeing a colored person there. Safety! White people could climb onto the bus and know that they were safe because all the black people had to sit in the back of the bus. Phew! And what a relief to know that if all the seats were taken, a white person could still sit down by making a colored person get up.
White parents could send their kids to school with the comforting knowledge that they will not be sharing a classroom with black children.
People were afraid of the unknown. American culture was an exclusive club. No blacks allowed. And I think I have figured out WHY that was.
FEAR.
People were AFRAID of what would happen in day to day life in Blacks were allowed into mainstream American society. If we did away with segregation – will that mean that blacks will start showing up in the same schools as our white children? What happens if a WHITE man, and a BLACK man meet in the same bathroom!?! Society will collapse, that’s what. For as long as anyone could remember, blacks and whites were separated. That’s how its ALWAYS been, and that how it should always be.
Why change it? Why change the code of our society just because the blacks are mad that they don’t have the same rights as whites? The Whites are the majority. They make the rules. There is no reason to change something just because a few people thought it was unfair.
So we come to my point. The Gay Rights movement and the Civil Rights movement both faced very different challenges, but there is one factor is/was at the root of their cause. They both are historical attempts to ease the fears of those who oppose them. Because if you think about it – fear of gay culture is the single greatest hurtle that homosexuals must overcome.
Ask anyone who opposes gay marriage why they feel that way. Here are a few reasons you will get:
1. It’s wrong according to the Bible.
2. They don’t want to send the message to society and our children that we condone homosexual behavior.
3. Marriage has ALWAYS been a union between a man and a woman. Why change something that has always been in place?
I will address these points, then open it up for discussion.
1. The Bible also encourages slavery. This was an argument used during the Civil Rights movement. But we, as a country, decided that segregation is NOT acceptable… so this became a law that God passed down that we, as humans, decided to ignore for the sake of our humanity.
2. I think it’s important to teach our kids to be tolerant and accepting of people with differences. ANY differences. Is it such a terrible message to give to our children that we are all Gods children and we are all entitled to happiness? Is it so bad to teach our kids to judge with their hearts, and not to discriminate against someone who is different?
3. Just because something has been done a certain way for years – does NOT make it right. The Civil Rights movement in American History proves that much.
Granted, the Gay community does not have any remarkable figures like Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., but I think that the Civil Rights and Gay Rights movement are mirrors of each other. They are both fighting a common enemy: Fear.
Alright… thoughts? Comments? I’m sure we are not all going to agree here… but I promise you that your RESPCTFUL response will earn mine.
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4 responses
@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
27 Dec 08
Of course it can and should be.Both movements are about making sure All American citizens have their rights.Period. It isn't about " forcing a lifestyle on anyone." Or " changing the meaning of marriage." It is about making sure that it doesn't make a difference if a man or woman is gay or not, their rights are protected.
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@cyntrow (8523)
• United States
9 Dec 08
I was not alive in the early 60's, but my parents marched with MLK in defense of equality for all races. 30 years later, my parents stood with my brothers and me on the mall in DC in defense of equality for GLBT people, as a stand against the unconstutionality of DOMA.
The problem with equating gay rights and racial rights is a matter of belief and understanding. Mom and Pop America have been told that sexuality is a lifestyle choice. Therefore, voting against the rights of the GLBT community is not a matter of civil rights but a matter special rights. Why should a person get special rights for a decision they make? Black people don't choose to be black. How they were born is out of their hands and discrimination is, thereby, inherently wrong. Most people now believe this to be true. They do not, however, believe that sexuality is anything other than a decision that one makes. They believe that GLBT people have decided to embark on an alternative lifestyle and, because of this, they HAVE equal rights, so long as they adhere to the social norm.
What they don't understand and what the activist groups have not been able to get across, is that sexuality is not a decision that one makes. In very few cases, people decide to "swing on the other side of the fence" but the majority of people who engage in "homosexual activity" are gay people who's only choice is to be or to suffer the cold silence of the "closet."
Yes, the gay rights movement and the civil rights movement of the 60's are similar, if not close to identical. But until it can be shown that sexuality is inate and inborn, the debate will continue and equality will never be fully realized.
@mac1946 (1602)
• Calgary, Alberta
8 Dec 08
I must agree that they are basically the same.
Being of an age when the civil rights were in full swing,and now of course the gay rights are making their ways known,I must confess,I am one that has seen the backside of what this has and will do.
The one area that I beleive you have aimed at is only parcially right,fear does have a part to play,but you will find,that hatred is the largest hurdle to break.
Going back as you did to the civil rights age,you must remmeber that the blacks were brought to North America as slaves,nothing more,they were owned and controlled.Now the fear,if allowed to roam free,they would take vengance out on their former owners,and change what has always been.
This of course did happen,but in a differant way,they now have all the rights of the masses(more or less)but the actual fact,as can be seen in the getto's,is that not much has changed,they are still hated,the odd few have been able to live great lives,but the majority cannot get along with whites.
The same is going to be with the gays,there are many people that will exept them as another odd side of sociaty.
Due to the aids virus being caused(as been shown to be from Africa)by the homsexual activity,there is little wonder that both Blacks and homosexuals are blamed.
I am not saying any of this is right,just the way it is looked at,anytime you have outside influances,that try to make you change to their way of living,that is at odds of yours,hate is the first thing to follow.
Not that any of this makes it right,it is just the way it is.
One other piont is that a great many people find inter-racial marriages and dating to be a danger to the white race,again causing hatred.
I do know,many hope to overcome this problem,and with hope it may in time,but I doubt it will happen in our lifetime.
Thank you for your discussion.
@kolleenwilson (94)
• United States
8 Dec 08
The "Gay Rights" movement is a Civil Rights movement. It is an organized effort to ensure that all people of the United States are afforded their rights as guaranteed by the United States Constitution. What happened in the 60's is no different than what is happening today. A group of people who because they are different in some way (in the 60's the color of skin, today a right to marry with full rights the person of one's choice)were denied their rights. The same reasons used in the sixties, the Bible is against it, it will demoralize society, it will ruin the institution of marriage, etc are being used today to discriminate against a group of people. These issues will be decided in the courts as they were in the 60's. This country cannot allow a majority belief of prejudice and intolerance to decide and make laws. Laws are created by the legislature and judged constitutional or not by the courts. The struggles of the 60's, which I was a part of, are no different than the struggles of today. The circumstances of the group of people being discriminated against has changed that is all...