What would you do if you were in my shoes?
By Thumper11
@Thumper11 (662)
United States
December 9, 2008 12:28am CST
First of all, I love my boyfriend and leaving is not an option. We have been together for 4 years and I love him more each day.... With that said. We live with his mom and dad right now. He has had 1 job and he is 25. his mother still cleans his room for him. She does everything for him. There are days that I am surprised that he can feed and dress himself.... I have tried to get him to do more and occasionally he will do the laundry or wash his dishes. He does feed our cats and cleans out the littler boxes, but other than that that is all that he does. He will cook dinner for us, but only when he's hungry. He has a broke ankle and his mom has been doing even more lately. She was even gonna give him a bath the other day... of course he did it himself and asked for my help on his back and butt, but i mean I have noticed more and more that his mom enables him and this behavior. What do you think? Is he a momma's boy? or will his mom just not let him grow up? He tries to do stuff, but his mom insists that she do it. Is this helping him or hurting him? and what can I do?
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37 responses
@damsel_prerna (863)
• India
9 Dec 08
hi..
be calm and have a healthy discussion about this with your boyfriend and his mom together... see how they react to what you are feeling... and after that if nothing changes.. accept things how they are.. i dont think then you should interfere in their relationship..
tc..
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@Thumper11 (662)
• United States
9 Dec 08
I have talked to him and he don't want all of the things that she does. He has been looking for a job... but he broke his ankle and can not get around. He said that as soon as he heals he will get a job and help me get out of this situation. I lost my job and had really no where else to go. So we have to both work to get out of his parent's house.
@paula27661 (15811)
• Australia
12 Dec 08
I hear warning bell with this one! I am not judging him, because I don't know him personally, but I would be a little worried that when you and he live together on your own he will expect you to take over from his mom and that would not be fair to you. I would talk to him about it although it appears you already have done so. I would make it very clear that I would not be his "mom" once alone with him. I hope things work out for you as you have been together a long time. Talk to him and keep talking until he "gets it".
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@paula27661 (15811)
• Australia
13 Dec 08
Maybe it is just too easy to let his mom do everything because that is what she seems to love doing. Is there any way you can move out on your own? I realize that it is expensive but it doesn't seem the best situation living with his mom. I hope you both find jobs soon so you can have your own life. In the meantime what others have suggested is a good idea; organize a house meeting and talk to both of them about how you feel. Good luck to you, let us know how you go.
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@Thumper11 (662)
• United States
17 Dec 08
I wish we could move out at this point... but in reality it will probably be at least 3 months, more like 6 months to a year. We have lived together before and on our own..... he did not expect me to do it then and he don't really expect it now. He is getting more and more independent as his foot heals and doing more and more on his own, so he has been able to do a lot more and his mom is letting him do some of it... other things he saves for when it's us and his mom is either asleep or gone for a bit. He's trying.
@Thumper11 (662)
• United States
13 Dec 08
We have lived together before and on our own and he didn't expect me to do everything, but the best thing for him is to get him out on our own..... He does so much on his own when he is on his own... I know why he can't do it now, but I just don't know why he don't do it on his own here when he's not injured.
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@sid556 (30960)
• United States
13 Dec 08
Mom is definitely enabling him and encouraging him to stay dependent on her. If I were you, I'd put my foot down and insist that he go out and get a job and begin saving for a place of your own. At 25, he should be having more ambition than what he has it seems. I'm sure it is difficult right now with the broken ankle but that won't last forever. Mom is not going to be around forever and if you don't do something now to end the pattern here, you could easily find yourself being the next enabler. I supported my first husband who never seemed to be able to find a job. It got old rather quick and especially after our daughter was born. He also did not help with the care of her. His mom is enabling him but he is not blameless here either. He is 25 and it is time for him to stand up and cut the strings.
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@Thumper11 (662)
• United States
14 Dec 08
I have told him all of this before. As soon as funds permit it we are going to move out, but that's probably gonna be at least 3 months from now... probably more like 6 months to a year..... But we are working on it, we just have to get jobs and he has to heal from his injury..... My dad has a farm and will give us some land to build on, then we have that expense.... but in the long run that is much better than renting. Plus his dad and uncle and him built the house that we all live in and my dad built his cabin, so hopefully we can do a lot of the work ourselves and save some money that way... or buy a nice trailer and just build onto that as time and money allow..... either way... I am trying to pay my existing debt down as quickly as possible..... so that we can focus on other things. I should have that accomplished with in a year.
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@Thumper11 (662)
• United States
11 Dec 08
I have had the talk with him, he said that he will talk to his mom and ask her to let him do a few more things on his own.
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@Margarit (3676)
• Philippines
11 Dec 08
I heard a lot of mama boy's and that the mom has something wrong with it. But in my opinion every one has the right to choose either. sometimes too much love can lead in different direction. Im sure your boyfriend will not do things that might hurt his moms feeling, specially you guys leave-in, in thier house and that might be something that his mom is happy doing everything for his son out of love. You ask if that help him? of course not, he probably grow more with your help if you guys step up and have a place you called your own perhaps rent for a while to be more responsible if that would not be a problem in terms of financial that would be a choice but if not then, just keep encouraging him to be more responsible.
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@Thumper11 (662)
• United States
11 Dec 08
Neither one of us have a job,s o that we can get money to rent. I was laid off mine and so was he... I hate these financial times.. It's impossible to find work, but yet, you need work.... We do want to get out of their home, but until his ankle heals, he can't even walk right now. We just have to suck it up and deal with it. He did say that he's going to talk to his mom about it an see if she will loosen up a little.
@luntian_grace (1373)
• Philippines
11 Dec 08
well first of all i think that he needs to grow up and the only way to do it is to move out the house where the parents doesn't live. ask him if he want to be independent and live a life that he will starts his own decisions.
@Thumper11 (662)
• United States
11 Dec 08
Moving out is not an option at this point. Neither one of us have jobs. When we get jobs and his ankle heals... we will have that discussion. We have to get on our own 2 feet financially. When that happens, we will move on from there.
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
9 Dec 08
I'm kind of curious...was his mom like this before you moved in or only after? His mom may actually feel a tad jealous of you for taking her "little" boy away from her and may be showing more over protectiveness toward him. Yet, unfortunately he doesn't seem to be rebelling but might like the attention. The only thing I can think of, if this is truly a serious relationship between the two of you, is to somehow find the means to move out and get away from her clutches. It really sounds like a case that his mother doesn't want him to grow up...does he seem "mature" otherwise???
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@Thumper11 (662)
• United States
9 Dec 08
No she's been like this from day 1. he is rebelling a little bit now that he's getting tired of being treated like a 3 year old.We can't move out... both of us are out of jobs and he can't get around... he's over weight and can not put weight on his broke ankle at all. When he's on his own he's ok. He works and he does housework. SO yea he's mature as you can expect a 25 year old male to be.
@kunking (1118)
• China
9 Dec 08
hi,friend! i advise u to do is to have a frank talk with your boyfriend..ask him why he wants his mom to help him do stuff and if he doesn't mean to , maybe he could also have a talk with his mom if his mom insists on helping him..of course, we all know this is a way of loving his son for his mom rather than hurt him..but he seems to be a little spoiled or a momma's boy..i am at almost the same age of your boyfriend but when i came back home i will do everything by myself rather than accept my mom's help like a little kid...but if your boyfriend tends to be independent when he stays with u alone, that's ok..you won't worry about him any longer..
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@Thumper11 (662)
• United States
9 Dec 08
He has tried talking to her. He is working on showing her that he can do some of it on his own. I feel that she don't view it as hurting him, only helping him. I think, like you said, she feels that she is showing love. He is more independent when we live on our own, it's just we have to get back to that point and with both of us not having a job, well, it's a little difficult to get there.
@anurag440044 (414)
• India
9 Dec 08
Is he the only son? A single child? Then i think its bound to happen. Moms always overprotect their boys. Happens with me too. I think you need to talk to his mom, and explain things to her that hes grown up. I mean its obvious they are our parents, how much ever we grow up, we will always be kids for them .
I think you better talk to his mom and explain that he needs to grow up and do his things himself.
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@Thumper11 (662)
• United States
9 Dec 08
Yes, he is the only child, but so am I, but I guess that's the difference between males and females.... yes.. his mother is overprotective. She has backed off a little bit over the last couple of days and that's due to him telling her to let him try things on his own. He is a bit handicapped, but he's not completely disabled.
@becnh83 (806)
• Philippines
9 Dec 08
maybe becuase of his mom she never let his boy grow up and things on his own...i think when you will be together he will parobably learn to stand on his own feet...her mother is too much protective. talk to him about the situation and ask him this way "if we will be together can you stand on your own feet or you will still depend on your mother?" try to ask, maybe then he will realize that it is not good to depend on our parents always we need to learn on our own...
happy posting...
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@Thumper11 (662)
• United States
9 Dec 08
His mother is over protective, but he is the only child and I am too, so I can kind of understand that. He had the job when we lived together before away from the parents and he had to help me pay bills. He will step up and do what he has to, when his mom don't step in and do stuff for him.
@kenjinakamura (39)
• Philippines
11 Dec 08
i think its so awkward to see a 25y/o guy still being baby sit by her mom. you need to talk to your bf if you really loved him. tell him to be out of her moms way of treating him because he will not be able to go on his own. don't be so dependent on what her mom can do for him. because he will not be able to do other things if he will live it to her mom to do it.tell him to be self reliant. tell him to insist to her mom to do things on his own because her mom will not be there if the two of you get married. i know its hard for a mother to let go of their son as it grows to be with someone else other than her. God bless you and your bf.
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@Thumper11 (662)
• United States
11 Dec 08
I have talked to him about it and he said that he will talk to his mom. Since it is a touchy subject he is waiting to choose the right words and the right time to say it. I can't blame him for that and he is taking it into his hands, so he is at least trying. I'll give him a week or so and see if it gets better.
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@abdulthesoldier (30)
• United States
9 Dec 08
mhmmm, hes not dependent on his mother, if so, daz kinda sad... but like if i were u tlk 2 ur bf n b like ur a man wit a dik n grown ballz i hope so n like i want a man whos gunna help me not me help u like all da time lolz i have had a broken ankle no1 ever helped me lolz my mom didnt even kno i had one now daz sad. but like.... u shud tlk 2 him n b like wen were out 2gether alone in da future will u need ur mom 2 help u? cuz if u cant take care of urself how will u take care of me...personally i kinda think hes lazy jus my honest opinion lolz he only coox if hes hungry and y is everything bout him in da environment? lolz does his mom like do da same stuff 4 u? idk lolz but like i think u shud like tease him or idk... lolz 2 motivate him n all but idkkk rly lolz g2g n gud luck pce.
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@Thumper11 (662)
• United States
9 Dec 08
I have talked to him about it and I think he had a talk with his mom. She has backed off a little bit, which helps. I really think she though that she was just being helpful when she was really hurting him in the process.
@Pascha (65)
• United States
11 Dec 08
Hi Thumper. I hope you don't mind my interjection here. :)
Us moms have this thing that we do. When our kids are sick or injured, no matter how old they are, we take care of them. Why? Because we want our kids to heal as quickly as possible and it's also our way of comforting our kids. There is nothing in this world that will ever get rid of that maternal instinct for us. Nothing.
The more important question would be why does it bother you so much that his mom is taking care of him? Us women have our own nurturing instincts towards those we love. We tend to see someone else nurturing our boyfriends and husbands as a threat to the family, subconsciously. That's not a dig or an insult but it is basic human nature.
Is it possible that on some level you feel as though you are competing with his mother? It's okay if you do. You certainly would NOT be the first woman on the face of the earth that felt like she had to compete with the in law for the spouses attention! The key thing though is to realize that this is the case, and just stop competing. Nobody can ever win against momma.
Let mom take care of him, and let him bask in the glory of mom taking care of him. It brings back fond childhood memories of when he was ittle and he was sick and in his mind, mom never left his bedside. It's a comfort thing. And help out with taking care of him also.
Believe me when I say that right now, with him being injured, there is not one single thing wrong with mom pampering him. That's just how moms are. :)
@Thumper11 (662)
• United States
11 Dec 08
I don't mind, I am actually happy to get a mother's view point on this touchy situation.I understand the need to care for the child... adult or not... when they are sick. I was adopted and I also had cancer... as a 15 month old... my adoptive mother never left my side. I know it's just what mothers do... I do understand most of this, because I'm an only child too and I still get some of this from my mother, but not on this level. It' snot that that bothers me... it that when he's not sick or injured she still does this and he still allows it. He's 25... I think he should be doing more for her instead of giving her more to do... Does that make since? I don't see it as a threat, I just see it as him not growing up.....I would never feel like I have to compete with his mother... video games maybe, but his mother... never... She has backed off a little bit... I think he talked to her about letting him try some things on his own.....I would never dream of trying to come between him and his mom. I like his mom and I want her to be a part of our lives... just not doing everything for him..... I do help and he makes sure that I help him dress and bathe instead of mom. He gets mad when she even offers help with any of that. I simply remind him that she did change his diapers for years, but I see why he don't want her help with that. I did find it a little weird that she would offer to help her 25 year old son bathe....
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@Thumper11 (662)
• United States
9 Dec 08
He has lived with me and he had to do things on his own and was able to do many things on his own. He is pretty independent when he is not hurt, but now that he can't get around as good, it is almost better if we can do some things for him, but he is perfectly capable of bathing himself in a sponge bath type manor as long as he has the supplies brought to him. I was almost in shock that his mother would even offer to help her adult son!
@stella1989 (2274)
• India
9 Dec 08
Um..
If you really want to change him..
Because you love him and looking forward to live with him in your future life..
Start like this..
First take those work in your own hand from his mother.
Go step by step..
And try involving him with you while you are doing the work.. (you have to do that very smartly if he is a real lethargic person..)
like you can Make it like romancing.. and calling him for help.
If he can't do stuffs all by himself..
Make it look like he is not doing the work himself but you are .. and he is just the one who is helping you ..
Try it..
I don't know about me.. What I would have done If I were in your shoes.. Cause I am kind of short tempered person and I hate it when people don't do their own personal job(s)..
But as I am a third person here looking at your case . I can try to work smartly..
Its a whole different thing when you're actually facing the problem your self..
Well best of luck!!
@stella1989 (2274)
• India
10 Dec 08
well ... in that case let him be like this for a while then..
This baby has to take some rest with his broken ankle..
Then you can talk to him about getting a job or something.
May be he is not that comfortable enough with house hold work..
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@Thumper11 (662)
• United States
11 Dec 08
He has done it before... it's just right now...we live with his mom, who is willing to do it for us... I am grateful for it, but you know... there is such a thing as helping too much.
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@Thumper11 (662)
• United States
9 Dec 08
I have started some of this. He knows how to do the dishes, and laundry and he can do other stuff. He will clean if he has to. When he lives with me and I work... if he wants clean clothes he has to do the laundry.... if he wants to eat... he has to cook and he will usually have dinner waiting on me when I walk in the door. It's like we moved in with his parents, because neither one of us have jobs now.... and he reverted back to his childhood or something, not to mention with his broke ankle it does make it extremely difficult for him to get things for himself, but he can still do some things on his own and i make him... his mom does them for him. It's maddening.....
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@dvmurphy (326)
• United States
10 Dec 08
My mother does the same thing everytime we have any all the family home together. She waits on the men in the family including filling their dinner plate for them, getting them second helpings, pouring their coffee, etc. It was the way she was raised. She even treats her grandsons the same way. She wants and needs to feel that she is still needed. It drives my husband crazy when we go to visit because I use to try to wait on him to and he told me that he was a grown man and could do things himself. It may be a culture thing on your end to. With my family the women served the men first, then the children and then they ate. The women ate at the diningroom table and the men usually ate in the livingroom clustered around the tv to watch the game. You may be better off just putting up with it until you and her son are in a place of your own again. It is her home and since you are staying with them if you make to much of it you may create and even larger problem between you and his mother. It is not a good idea to create a tug of war between you and Mama cause normally you will lose out in the end eventually.
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@dvmurphy (326)
• United States
11 Dec 08
We are from Iowa but most of my late Father's family are from the south. We are Irish and Scottish decent and most of my family still behave this way even with their own families. It drives me nuts cause if we are all home at the same time I feel like I have just stepped back in time to the horse and buggy days. My Mother gets easily offended so I don't say anything if I see her fixing a plate for a grandson who is in his twenties. She says no matter how old they get they are still her babies.
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@Thumper11 (662)
• United States
11 Dec 08
By any chance is this a southern family? My mom does this for my dad... drives me crazy!!!! I can't stand to see an abled bodied person sit on their butt, while someone else waits on them..... I certainly don't want to start a fight with his mom. I do get along with his parents and I don't want them to think that I am ungrateful for the help, but it's starting to drive me insane! I love him... I did sit down and talk to him and he is planning on having his mom to back off him a little. I think it is better if he talk to her, since she is his mother. I just hope he don't get out of line with her and hurt her feelings.....
@Thumper11 (662)
• United States
11 Dec 08
My grand mother did this too. She had 3 girls but 2 grandsons. My mom always said that if she had a brother, he would have been spoiled rotten... I can see how... I think I am living with his equivalent... but oh well. I'll let him have a talk with her and still let her wait on him while he's injured... then when he heals we have to get out of here or I'll go completely crazy!!!!!
@salonga (27775)
• Philippines
10 Dec 08
It is very obvious, your man is a mama's boy! But wait what are you doing? Why is it that you are in their household? You mean you are living in not just with your man but with his parents. My goodness! The very reason why your man could not stand on his own is because he still lives with his overprotective mother. Why not encourage your man to marry you and then live a separate life away from his family. He got his job anyway. That means you can do it on your own. You've got to start on your own. Obviously you love him and would not leave him despite his being a weakling. Well why not get the blessing of a marriage so that you could at least have the right to demand that he stops relying too much on her Mom. When you are already living a separate life, then do everything that his Mom was doing for him. It is okay for you to do all the nursing and loving anyway he is your hubby. But for her Mom to do that to him at that age! What a big shame!
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@Thumper11 (662)
• United States
11 Dec 08
Well, I am here because I have no where else to go, so he wanted me with him... he got me.... I did have a job and was helping out. I still buy the groceries and things for myself. He is also injured and can't get around, so we really could not be on our own right now, even though I want us to be. We have been before and it was fine, until we lost our jobs. I have started the marriage discussion quite a few times... problem is... we have no money at the moment, so we could not afford our own place. No, I refuse to be a maid. I will not wait on him hand and foot, I just won't do it. While he is injured, it's one thing, but when he can get around on his own... it's quite another....
@salonga (27775)
• Philippines
11 Dec 08
Well, if you refuse to be a maid if that is how you call it, which I'm sorry to tell goes with being a wife then his Mom has all the opportunities to do all those services to him. Considering the fact that he has injury then I find no reason why he should not be assisted that way!
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@Thumper11 (662)
• United States
11 Dec 08
I don't mind to do it while he is injured... I just won't do it when he is perfectly capable of taking care of himself. I know that he needs at least a little of that treatment right now, but I don't depend on any man to take care of me and I don't want any man depending on me to take care of him. We are adults... we should be able to take care of our selves for the most part. I understand though if there is a sickness or injury.. those times are a little different.
@miwayonly (70)
• United States
9 Dec 08
well, I think that he is a momma's boy, but he just doesn't wanna hurt her by telling her he doesn't need her anymore. she doesn't want her "baby boy" to grow up, so she's going to do everything she can to keep him home. he needs to tell her if he wants to be more responsible for himself and she needs to let him spred his wings a little more.
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@miwayonly (70)
• United States
11 Dec 08
yeah, well it's nice that you have him try things on his own at first because you don't want him to be dependent on you or his mother
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@Thumper11 (662)
• United States
11 Dec 08
so true. I want him to at least try, if he fails, then we can help him succeed. If he passes, then he did it on his own and can be more independent... It's how you train a child to do things right...? let them try if they need help help them if not, then they learn how to do it....
@Thumper11 (662)
• United States
9 Dec 08
I agree, I don't think that she does it on purpose, I think that she just don't realize how negatively it is going to affect him for the rest of his life. I do help him, but only after he tries and can't do something on his own, then I'll step in and try something that can help him out. I never do it completely for him. I find ways to help him help himself.
@messageme (2821)
• United States
10 Dec 08
I think it's a mix between both. I mean why should he grow up if someone is willing to do everything for him? His mother made him the way he is, right? Is there the option of you two getting your own place? What about you two ever starting a family? or in the future? Does he have this 1 job still? If not encourage him to get a job, so that one day you guys came move out on your own and start a family. I would feel really weird living with my bf's mom.
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@messageme (2821)
• United States
11 Dec 08
That is very understandable. Jobs and money are very hard to come by these days. Good luck and I wish you the best.
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@Thumper11 (662)
• United States
11 Dec 08
Yes they are....I am having one hell of a time just finding job openings.... Money is scarce. I get food stamps or else we'd all be starving. And I get $79 per week unemployment... that's not even enough for 1 person to live on...... what about rent and transportation and phone bill, electric, water, the list goes on... There is not enough money to go around. My food stamps feed all 4 of us in the house.
@Thumper11 (662)
• United States
11 Dec 08
We can't get our own place until his ankle heals.... he can't walk at the moment.... and until one or both of us get jobs. We are both looking. he does not have the job.... We both want our own family, but money needs to come first.. That is the 1 thing keeping us here right now.
@woolyshamblers (67)
• United States
10 Dec 08
Oh my gosh... sounds like you're with my ex-fiance! He still lived with mom and dad, worked FOR mom and dad, and didn't do his own laundry. I lived with them when I was still in highschool, and even at 17, I told him, "This is ridiculous. Grow the **** up!"
I really think he needs to feel encouraged to be able to do things on his own. I got harsh with my ex, and he now lives in a different city. We got serious, we dated for 3 years, he couldn't continue growing, so I left him. Did him wonders, I'm told. I actually still talk to his mother (LOL) and sister. They say he's out on his own and doing well. He has a girlfriend, and she seems like a nice girl. He's still addicted to his video games, but so is she! So it works out, I guess...
Best thing you can do for him, since you're not even considering leaving him (there were more issues than just "momma's boy" for me) is to just talk to him. Don't be harsh at first, but if he remains stubborn, then maybe you should get harsh. Some people don't learn their mistakes until its too late... Don't let him learn too late.
Talk to his mom too, maybe. I think from me talking to my ex's mom before moving out, it kinda made her realize that she'd been babying him and that he needed to grow up. Just let her know, "Hey, I'd really like to move out with him soon, but I'm not sure if he's ready. Do you think you could help me get him to make the adjustment?"
Hope that helps. Good luck!
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@Thumper11 (662)
• United States
11 Dec 08
LOL! That's kinda scary. I have been encouraging him as much as I can. I know this isn't exactly normal.... But he is injured, so until he can walk and until we have a job or 2, there's not too much that we can do. He did tell me that he would talk to his mom, so I'm trying to give him some time to do that... I know he's trying to figure out what to say.
@Thumper11 (662)
• United States
11 Dec 08
He wants to be firm, but not mean, so he's having to pick his words carefully and he's also trying to validate her feelings, which is very important, especially since he is an only child, he don't want to sound ungrateful.
@woolyshamblers (67)
• United States
11 Dec 08
Oh yeah... Talk with "Mom" can be a tricky conversation to have! And, of course, with an injury I don't expect miracles to happen! :)
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