Should abusive parents be sterilised?
By BubblyIan
@BubblyIan (750)
December 15, 2008 5:24pm CST
If parents are found guilty of abusing their children and the children are taken away fro them, should they be sterilised?
Many times it appears that they simply go out and get pregnant again and there is nothing to stop them.
The legal process for removing children from incompetent parents is expensive and long and drawn out - and the children get damaged as a result.
What about contraceptive implants?
Should we take these draconian attempts to stop people being dangerous to their children?
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@liisafiat (659)
• Latvia
16 Dec 08
Yes. People can not change. And if one child suffered, then they will get the next one and the next children will suffer as much (if not even more) then the previous one. And actually the trouble doubles and triples, as the amount of children in that type of families continue to grow.
It is not drastic. Simply it is moral thing to do.
Abusing parents might keep that children because they expect to receive from social institutions some money. Maybe abusive parents are rich and sick people who abuse children because they get a pleasure out of it.
Sterilizing abusive parents would:
1. Stop child abuse
2. Would eliminate suffering for future kids (nor they will be able to adopt one, nor to make one!) ;)
3. The mental health of society would get better with every saved children.
Those are good reasons for sterilizing. Call me evil, but I support it.
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@BubblyIan (750)
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16 Dec 08
You are very brave to speak out in favour of this policy so categorically.
It is true there are strong reasons in favour, but do you think the government would ever go this far?
@BubblyIan (750)
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16 Dec 08
Yes, I agree. It would have a huge backlash from those who believe that it is every woman's right to have a baby, regardless of how appalling she is as a parent.
It amazes me that the UK government is effectively bribing women to have babies - on the incredibly mistaken belief that they will grow up to pay taxes in the future to support the increase in pensioners! This absurdly short-sighted approach completely ignores the reality that the least suitable parents are most likely to be interested in the huge financial incentives for having children (£66 per week per child if do not work). These children are most likely to cause a huge cost to society of sorting out the damage in crime/mental health/benefit support/housing of these non-working anti-social people is likely to be off the scale - further deficits in the budget.
But you are not allowed to say this in UK!
@liisafiat (659)
• Latvia
16 Dec 08
I doubt. Although they should do what is the best for their citizens, they rarely are brave enough to make decisions like this. And to make a change. Or at least: to give it a try.
Besides, it would make HOT debates ALL around the world! Many will call it brutal thing to do and "How dare You to keep me away from the life I am living! Don`t disturb!" and bla-bla like this...
@dnatureofdtrain (5273)
• Janesville, Wisconsin
15 Dec 08
This is hard one to answer...
As first off.. We do not want to be committing genocide via sterializing parents who have abused their children after they have to...
But on the other hand...
something does need to be done....
Now, I was one who was abused as a child.. and my sister and I were adopted to two different homes as we were so sick and neglected one family could not handle us both.. I was placed at age 2.. but I was still classfied as a feral child by age 6 do to little to no human contact in the eyes of the courts.. when I had plenty of human contact I just did not enjoy being around people.. So I often took off to the woods.
Then I had 8 foster sisters.. and 5 more adopted sisters and a brother...
Later on... My sisters grew up... 2 of them in and out of abusive relationships one takes good care of her children...
The other one continuing the cycle of abuse.. Is on her third child with the third different daddy... Not good at all for the children.... or her..
What they need to do is improve the system to help the parents turn their lives around. Serious counseling, serious good habit forming...
The system they have now is not working,.. and is hurting more than its helping...
.. and the Foster Care and foster parenting system, and childrens services...
Oh man.. all I can say about these systems is they need a massive overhaul.. To help all parties on all ends improve these situations.
- DNatureofDTrain
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@aprilsue00 (1991)
• United States
15 Dec 08
I understand that it is wrong to abuse your children. When ever I see stories about this on the news it makes me sick. These children are defenseless and they can't do anything to help themselves. In these cases I believe that it is best to take the children from their parents. But who are we or anyone else to say that these people aren't allowed to have anymore children. This is against their constitutional rights. In some cases with therapy and counseling these people can change. So I don't agree with sterilization in cases of child abuse. If someone gets their children taken away and they get pregnant again I think they should have a chance to raise the child with supervision. If a court decides that they are capapble of taking care of the child without abusing it then they should be allowed to keep it.
@BubblyIan (750)
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15 Dec 08
Yes - this is the current system and so the child grows up as a victim of abuse and is more likely to become an abuser herself.
Somewhere down the road the pattern of repeating abuse has to be broken - any alternative suggestions?
@mgmagana (3618)
• United States
16 Dec 08
i have a friend who is verbally abusive to her kids but she's now pregnant with her fifth. some may think verbal abuse is not as bad as physical, but it's bad. She calls her 3 yr. old daughter lil b*tch, her 9 and 10 yr old sons p*ssy f@gots. she even says the f word to them all the time. she thinks its ok to have more kids because financially they r well off, but i guess she doesn't realize what she is doing to them emotionally! i wish she wouldn't have more, but it's not my place to tell her to stop. she's even gotten threatened several times from people in the store that they will call the police but she just gets in their faces saying that she takes good care of her kids and her husband makes more money then them probably! it's just all bad.
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• United States
16 Dec 08
me personally, i think the entire human race should be sterilized , we are all a plague to mother earth. Some children however.. i feel do need more strict parents. Bad parents, are people who weren't raised right by their parents.. and so on, and so on...I think that anyone who wants to be a parent, should be put through several tests, ie. IQ Test, Aptitude test..blah blah blah.. anyone deemed unfit to be a parent should not be allowed to have children, because what does bad parenting lead to? crime, insubordination, more bad parents..if i have offended anyone with this respone, please feel free to send me a message and i will take your respone into consideration
@Violette13 (1048)
• United States
16 Dec 08
I'm with the others on this one. While i hate to say that we should take away someone's right to do what they want with their body, there is also the cases where something HAS to be done. For example, i know a girl who had both of her children permanently taken away from her by the state and then she went and had two more children which were taken away from her right after they were born. I don't understand that one, why have them if you can't keep them? =\ Why not just take the pill or get an IUD for pete's sake. I'll never understand that one, now the last two she gets visitations on occassion but what's MORE frustrating is i seen mention of her trying for another so she can try and have a girl. WHY?
@Monkeyrose (2840)
• Canada
16 Dec 08
No. I don't believe so. I think that it is wrong to force any kind of un-necessary physical altercation to another person's body. I do believe that the children should be taken away if they are harmed.
I definately do not believe in forced sterilization.
@katsmeow1213 (28716)
• United States
16 Dec 08
Yes by all means they should be sterlized. All sterilization procedures are reversable, so if the time comes when they are more capable of having children (such as in the case of an addict who sobers up) then they can just get the procedure reversed and have kids again.
But yes, anyone who has their kids taken away for abuse or neglect should at the very least be forced to go on some form of birth control, including the men.
@playmateshorty (365)
• United States
16 Dec 08
I believe some contraceptive implants.
but you have to remember that the country's idea of "abuse" varies and some times is very misconstrued.
stubborn and unruly kids, have even went as far calling 911 and reporting their parents for the simplest kind of discipline, just abusing the "abused" title.
It wouldn't be fair if a rebel child disliked his parents and choose to "disown" them, and the country would sterilized them, stopping them from being able to produce any more children.
the cost to sterilize and implant every "abuser" would be just as expensive.
@gaylesglimpses (164)
• United States
16 Dec 08
I would like to see an implant offered in women who are healthy enough to use it. But, I don't think we should also educate the mom. Some moms are probably doing the best they can. If they had good education in terms of how to be a mom, plus schooling and support they might do better.
Granted, there are a few moms who wouldn't change no matter what. I think they are the minority though. The other day I was reading about a woman who's child was taken away from her. The child was in the car with food, games and toys. Mom was working inside and the child wasn't allowed. The mom said she was told it was going to mean her job if she took the day off. But she didn't have a sitter. Now, she may lose her child. This mom needed support when there wasn't any. While she is the story in the papers I wonder how many other moms are out there like her.