PTC/PTR with €200 or $2000 per Click/Mail, are they Real?

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There are some Paid To Read/Click sites that gives €200 per click (some even gives $2000 per Click) and most of them gives about €2000 or $20000 sign-up bonus (looks 'fishy' already isn't) For example: 1). euro-mails.com My earnings in Euro-Mails is €3700 on the same day after i registers & clicks some ads. But the minimum payouts is $400000, reduced to $1000 if upgrading to Platinum Membership that cost $249 when paid using Liberty Reserve for a lifetime membership (LIFETIME membership is 'fishy' enough for me, and the currency difference ($) in minimum Payouts and (€) in Earnings is suspicious also) 2). ippomails.net Me earnings in IppoMails is $38000 on the same day after i registers & click some ads. But the minimum payouts is $4000000, reduced to $1000 if upgrading to Platinum Membership that cost $249 when paid using Liberty Reserve for a LIFETIME Membership (again...suspicious) What even more suspicious from all of those, is their "Payouts Made!" list, they shows not only payments from their own site but also from other(similar) site, so they apparently connected one another, also Upgrade payments need to be sent to the same ID in all of those site, so the owner of those site seems to be the same person. My personal opinions is that they are just scams, but if any of you ever sign-up in any of those sites and did upgrades to Platinum Membership, did u really get the payouts? or did u got scammed?? I registers in those sites just for curiousity, personally i don't even trust a $1 per click, most of trusted PTC/PTR are offering no more than 2 cent per click (but Not All of them trusted to really pays what you've earned)