War of Words - The Battle of the Veeps

They sold that lie knowing it was a lie, I don't care what anybody says. Either they knew it was a lie or they were even more stupid than I thought! They scared many of the American people with predictions of mushroom clouds over our cities. Even for those of us who had our doubts that was enough to scare us into going on with just about anything. However now that we know the truth, depending on who you believe within the Administration, we still would have gone to war? Rove says no, Cheney says yes and Bush won't say; I guess when the two guys who controlled his strings are at odds he really doesn't know what to think! Annie

That's what I think, too. These people have no shame and no conscience whatsoever. They've done nothing but lie, about the reasons for going to war, about WMD's and about their use of torture. They've lied about the success of their torture techniques knowing some people would think the ends justify the means. Annie

I really think Bush was a puppet of Cheney and Rumsfeld, he didn't know what was going on or what to do about it and just took their word for it and went along with their wants and decisions.

Me too, I can't wait until he goes back to his undisclosed location and stays there. He is a very scary person, isn't he? There's no humanity there, or humility or compassion. I think it was Chris Wallace of Fox News asked him what the high point of his time in office and he actually said 9/11! Wallace said, "I presume it would also be the low point."; what a cold-hearted jerk. Annie

I seen that interview as well and couldn't believe what I was hearing. Party of family values ya know? What a joke!

I don't either but see above, one of the previous responders will. I guess "each to his own" is really true, right? I guess I could say I'll miss him - like I miss that abscessed tooth I once had! Annie

Too much power is right, which he abused to the max. It's hard to believe anyone could be less popular than Bush but the D1ck has pulled it off...lol! Annie

You know, I've felt bad through the years when I've said something unkind about Bush because I really don't like to offend anyone and I realize there are some people who like him. As much as I'm not one of them and I disagree with just about every single thing he's done while in office, I can understand how some people may find him likable. That can be said about almost anyone, most people have some redeeming qualities despite their flaws and faults. The D1ck Cheney isn't one of them at all! I can't help it and I really mean it when I say it's not all about his politics, he's simply an evil, hateful man! My personal Axis of Evil includes Cheney, Ann Coulter and Rush Limbaugh. Annie

Yeah... He understood that we'd get bogged down in a quagmire in Iraq and shouldn't invade.

May I PLEASE have your permission to frame this? Seriously, I don't think I've ever known of anyone to say straight out that they'll miss Cheney. I'd like to ask you on a more personal level since you have children in the military, if you don't mind, doesn't it bother you at all how Cheney has such a casual attitude about having lied to get us into war and many of the other decisions he was instrumental in that have led to all the thousands of our troops dying and many more thousands being seriously wounded? I have to disagree with your claims that he "does not try to grandstand"; how about when he warned in 2004 that if we voted for Kerry we'd be more likely to die? I actually know people personally who took that to heart. I have a feeling we're going to learn a lot more about this man after he leaves office and maybe you'll still find it possible to defend him but maybe not. I don't have many details yet but I just heard on TV there is evidence he was "more instrumental than previously thought" in the outing of CIA agent Valerie Plame. He's said the mistakes made in the intelligence leading up to the Iraq War didn't matter and he admits to having approved torture. He clearly believes he is above the law and I have a feeling he's in for a rude awakening sometime hopefully soon after January 20,2009. Annie

anniepa, Forgive my ignorance, but what was Cheney's lie? Also, if you answer my question (which people usually don't), please give evidence to back it up. After nearly eight years of the media and Democrats telling the American people that Bush and Cheney lied, I've yet to hear any convincing evidence for their claims. Personally, I believe it's the media and the Democrats who have lied to America, not Bush and Cheney. Convince me that I'm wrong.

Cheney was Bush's foolproof insurance against being assassinated, that's for sure. "President Cheney" would be the most horrifying sound on earth! Annie

I kind of think it's been more like Cheney has been running the show. From things I've heard, Obama already has gotten advice from Biden on his cabinet picks and things like that. I don't think he'd have accepted the position if he wasn't going to have some input, he'd have had more influence staying in the Senate and keeping his leadership position and committee chairmanships. The voters have the power to limit anyone's term as they see fit. What I think is needed is some kind of REAL campaign finance reform so someone who isn't already in politics or a millionaire (or both!) has a fair chance of getting elected or at least on the ballot. Annie

annie, The American public think it's the other person's representatives that are the problem, not their own. I know there are exceptions, but most Americans don't have a clue who stands for what or how anyone voted on the issues (I make that claim base on some man-on-the street interviews I've seen). They're more interested in what's happening in the entertainment industry than what's happening in Washington (I make that claim based on television ratings of news programs verses entertainment programs). I believe the media and Congress think they have the right to tell us what to think and how to vote and why not, we've given them that power by continually reelecting bad representatives and believing what we're told when no real evidence is given. People need to wake up, learn how to read and reason and they need to question all decisions coming out of Washington not just Presidential decisions (the President doesn't have that much power anyway). That's one of the reasons we need term limits. We also need term limits because the "old boys" have lost touch with the nation. They neither know nor care what's going on outside of Washington. Lobbiest would probably also have less effect if Congress had term limits. There's a verse in the Bible that says, "My people perish for lack of knowledge." I believe that's what's happening in this country.