When do you consider a person fat?

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I was interested to know what is your definition of "fat"? When do you think a person is fat? I mean, what do you consider to be a "normal" weight for both a girl and a boy. And also, do you think a person who is at a "normal" weight can still look good in your opinion? Tell me in kg/pounds or measurements if you can, that'd be better. I just want to make an image of what you would think a normal weight person would look like. Also, how do you picture your ideal body? For a girl or a boy, I'm interested in both. How many kg and what measurements would an ideal girl/boy, in your opinion have? I am interested to know what you think are the limits - when a person is underweight and when overweight. I don't want medical reasons, just your opinion. How much should a person weigh to be considered beautiful? Do you think "normal" weight girls/boys are beautiful? I mean, how much would you accept before considering a person fat or underweight? I am explaining so detailed because I want to make sure you get my point :) I'm interested to know, actually, how slim should a person be to be considered beautiful? I know most people say you are beautiful no matter how much you weight, and I agrea, but still, if you are truly honest, you can't say everyone looks ok at any weight... So, I want an honest opinion, what measurements should both a girl and a boy have for you to like her/him? In case you do care about the physicall aspect, I'm not so shallow to care only for appearance, but this is a question only about this. I know an ideal person is not based only on looks. So with all the changes these days, do you consider underweight girls and boys beautiful? Model type of girls or even thinner? The same for overweight persons. Or do you find them repulsive? Try not to relate to health issues here, just about appearance. I know being overweight or underweight a lot can cause damage to your health, but for those that still look like they are underweight or overweight and aren't actually, so their health is not a problem, do you find them attractive? If you could give me examples by posting a pic, or just mentioning a name of someone, so that I can understand better what your ideal body is, I'd appreaciate it.