Republic of Cebu Anyone

It just shows how little knowledge you have with history. We'll I would appreciate if we can speak in English than in Tagalog!

I don't think so. Pigafetta listed a lot of words and most of them are Cebuano sounding. Tagalog was the language of the north, like it is now. Where would you think Cebuano came from them? I would appreciate it if you post a link to that account, as I am extremely interested in linguistics. As far as I know, Enrique the Interpreter handled the talking. That was because he spoke Malay, the lingua franca of the area at that time.

And to quench your ignorance on the Ancient Cebuano language, try to access this link http://www.languagelinks.org/onlinepapers/fil_cwrd.html Surely, you cannot find majority of the tagalog language there.

Looking at your responses, I can say that you are totally off tangent of the topic. THink first before you comment and always make sure that you are coherent with the things you comment otherwise you are just one of those laughing stock.

I can read it and please read also your discussion. It is the Cebuano dialect and I commented on that. And why did I said about the President and CEO of GSIS is from Cebu. Do you know what is happening to many GSIS members? Maybe you are not a member.

First thing, we are discussing republic of cebu here and not some damn stuff about your GSIS. Well, that man called WInston Garcia is from Cebu but a disgraced one learned from his tagalog counterparts!

The only place cebuanos can be very at home with is in cebu. While she might be a chambermaid for now, but later on, she can get some opportunities as this city will develop. I do have to say that only Cebuanos are resilient and assertive in going against imperialist Manila. Why? Because most ethnic groups in the Philippines become contented of what they get from Manila. One more thing, we do not need Manila for us to survive. We can survive on our own and if they are willing, the Cebuano Speaking provinces will attach to our new republic too. Now Manila people are in the threat. Because they will not only fight the Moros in the south, they will also fight the dissenting and growing consciousness of the Cebuanos.

Who is your hero? Magellan or Lapu-lapu? Magellan landed in the island of Mactan to spread Christianity. Lapu-lapu killed him. That's the only part of your provincial history that's left in my mind, that I've in our history subject. But you can ask me about ilocano culture and i might even be able to write a book. ======== Of course you need the Philippine government for your city to survive. Not necessarily the tagalogs. Remember that the country is led by a Kapampangan and not a Tagalog. And the provinces are well-represented in the house of representatives? Government offices extensions have been established in your area to cater to the needs of the people in your province, and not necessarily yours ... the DFA, POEA, NBI, the Airport, and many more. You can only say that you can have a government of your own if you no longer need these extension offices. And how about the AYALA District? And what is the currency that you are using? Isn't it that you use the Philippine Peso as your medium of exchange? You want to be identified as Cebuanos and not as Filipinos? I hate to say this, but shame on you. So are you saying that in school, you no longer sing the national anthem? What divides our country? It's not the tagalogs my friend. It's not their fault to be born and bred as tagalogs. We can prove to them that we are better than them if you are willing to do so. I am an ilocana who happen to be in manila, and i'm proud to tell you that I have a pool of subordinates who are tagalogs. That made me, an ilocana, superior to them. The superiority of the Tagalogs is only in our minds. We can be better than anybody if we could accept the fact that we are all Filipinos, and we have the right to govern the country if we so deserve. What is there to prove? You know what makes us ilocanos braver than Cebuanos, that enable us to survive manila's hostility? We speak Ilocano, English, and are willing to speak Tagalog. While you only want to speak Cebuano and English.

when i was in Manila, fortunately, no discriminating has been put on. in fact, they were amazed that here in Cebu, at 5php, you can buy a delicious food such as: mongo soup, pancit bihon, ampalaya just to name a few. i may say that there are times where i envy manila because all the great malls, theme parks and etcs are there but to compare the cost of living. i would never trade my life here in Cebu. you have a good discussion, fine. =) hope we'll bump into each other this Sinulog. =)

Mao Gyud... (Yes I should I open up this discussion because in the hope that Cebuanos will be aware that a certain movement like this is already in shape!

Well many of the leaders down here had pushed for an independent state. There were plans, vision. But the idea eventually fade out. For some reasons many Mindanaoans were not convinced. Are you saying these things in behalf of the entire cebuano populace? Or just your opinion?

Well what did the people in Mindanao do? As far as cebu is concerned, we do want to get out of this island because culturally, we want to be independent. It's up to the people of Mindanao if they want to get out of the clout of Manila or not. As long as we here in Cebu are pondering for an independent state.

It just shows how ignorant you are with history. You do not even know that Katipunan was even brought here.

Ignorant of history? Tell me what it is in what I wrote isn't fact? I brought the Katipuneros in because if it wasn't for the North fighting for independence you wouldn't have the freedom you enjoy now and yet you talk about people in the North and the Tagalogs as if they are the ones who is calling for divisiveness here. Hating on Tagalogs won't make Cebuanos a better people, it will only make Tagalogs hate you back. You're delusional if you think Cebu and the Cebuanos will ever be a better alternative to the North-centered status quo.

Um...i just wanted to ask finescribe if you have filipino subject during your elementary, high school or college years... ... this discussion is quite interesting...im sure my english teacher would be quite amused when she reads this... ... before you say im off topic...If you want to establish the "republic of Cebu"...think about it, not all items you use there are locally "made in cebu"....some stuff also come from other regions and other countries. You may be pointing out that Cebu can live alone POLITICALLY, but what about resources? you cannot find everything there. It's simple economics, resources from the home, the community, the country, and internationally...If you have all the resources you need in your island, then go ahead and establish your republic-in-the-making...and please stop comparing the philippines to those in the west, because WE ARE NOT THEM...If i remember correctly from our Filipino subject, "filipino" is NOT just a language but a collection of dialects. The term refers all the native dialects in the philippines, and tagalog is just a part of it, kapampangan is a part of it, ilocano is a part of it, and cebuano is a part of it. Filipino is not also just for those who speak tagalog, it refers to everyone who lives in the philippines. ... We all have reasons, we all can't help but feel idealistic sometimes, but we should all learn to get along, tagalog was established to unite us all. without a common language, how will we be able to understand each other? There's english, yes but english is from the west. The filipinos need something to be proud off... ... Please, enough with the racisms and discriminations. God created us as equals, in his own image.

When Singapore detached from Malaysia, did they mean they cannot do it? While Cebu has its own domestic problems and we do have our share of corrupt officials, nevertheless, we are not cashing some hard earned money from other provinces in order to build an overpriced MRT. We have built our own infrastructure without Manila's help.

Buenos Diaz That is something that Chavacanos should do before your unique culture will be obliterated. As far as Cebu is concerned, we are just sick of what is happening in Manila. And to tell you, we are not even proud to be Filipinos if you consider the die hard Cebuanos.

If you will have further reading on why the former Balkan states are splitting into several nations, that is due to the fact that culture and language matters more than sense of nationalism. The new world today is a world of unity but also a world of diversity with more nation states regaining freedom from former states due to the fact of identity and culture. One of the rights of man is his freedom to express in his native tongue which is a reflection of his souls aspiration. This freedom has been embodied in UNHR. For this reason, Scotland got their own parliament, Andalucia, Basque, and Catalan have been recognized as nation states, Slovakia split from Czech Republic, and the numbers are counting. We must admit the fact that there is a sense of complex discrimination due to language and culture and at the same time this will brew up into a formation of a nation state based on language and culture. I must admit that we should give our Muslim brothers the freedom they have. That is the very solution for Mindanao. For centuries, Sulu and that part of Mindanao is practically not part of the Philippines due to their resiliency. It is also the same with Cebuanos who until now could not really grasp what Filipino nationalism is unless they were being told in their schools about the bloated exploits of Rizal, bonifacio, etc.

And I am hoping so. We are currently making a lot of consciousness among Cebuanos with our own history and how Cebuanos should face the challenges in the next years to come. Also, we are not alone because here in Cebu, the movement itself has become grown and even the politicians are not alienated to this idea. This would mean, we have the strong chances of making our own republic. Long live Republic of Cebu! Mga ka-igsuonan nga mga sugbuanon... Hinaot i-ambit ninyo kining gamayng tampo alang sa atong mga anak nga dili na masakop sa mga mapahimuslanun nga mga tagalog. Ug hinaot nga sa pag abot anang panahon, malambuon kita! Mabuhi ang nasudnong sugbuanon

finescribe has all the intelligence and logical points in total of the conversations. He deserved commendations and applauds from Cebuano community.