This's insane! "Lawsuit seeks to take 'so help me God' out of inaugural". 2 far?
By nadooa247
@nadooa247 (1096)
United States
December 31, 2008 1:39pm CST
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A number of atheists and non-religious organizations want Barack Obama's inauguration ceremony to leave out all references to God and religion.
http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/12/31/inauguration.lawsuit/index.html?eref=rss_topstories (read full article here)
I think this is insane honestly. Do you think that is going too far? To try and strip any mention of God whatsoever? If they don't believe in God fine but that doesn't mean they have to try and strip any mention of God in any instance of the government... agree? Disagree??
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@craftcatcher (3699)
• United States
2 Jan 09
The "so help me God" phrase is not required by the Constitution, more a tradition or personal choice. It is also not required that they place their hand on a bible or any other book. They also have the choice to swear or affirm.
I am a firm believer in the separation of church and state. But in the case of an inauguration I feel it is a point directly between the individual as incoming President and the people of the United States and the individual should be able to choose the manor in which he/she is inaugurated to the office.
If Obama chooses to include the phrase then that is his right of free speech. No one is forcing him to say it but no one should take away his right to say it either.
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@nadooa247 (1096)
• United States
2 Jan 09
As a previous mylotter stated it is a tradition and not every president sworn in has said the phrase. The thing that surprises me is that people are willing to go to court over something like this, and i agree with you... it is up to the person being sworn in.
@deebomb (15304)
• United States
31 Dec 08
Actually it seems to be up to the president whether he says "so help me God" The oath is found in Article II, Section 1, clause 8 of the U.S. Constitution: I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States." It seems that not all the presidents used the phrase until FDR. Also not all the presidents swore on the Bible. In my opinion Obama should not use the phrase unless he really wants
God's help
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@nadooa247 (1096)
• United States
31 Dec 08
Actually i never knew it wasn't said by every president being sworn in.. thanks for the added info!
As i said to a previous poster... i agree with what you are saying it should be up to Obama whether or not he says it... not groups or the government.
@irisheyes (4370)
• United States
2 Jan 09
The words "so help me God" do not appear in the oath of office as written in the US constitution. It has been added at the discretion of most of the presidents and should probably continue to be the choice of the man being inaugurated.
@oscarbartoni (2581)
• United States
1 Jan 09
There are more Christians than atheist so why should we bow to the demands of a few. If they do not wish to hear the word God then close their ears when the word God is spoken.The way things are going the Muslims might try to get the word Alla put in instead of God.
@nadooa247 (1096)
• United States
1 Jan 09
I am Muslim, Muslims believe in God just as Christians say Lord we say Allah... same thing in the end the creator.
"If they do not wish to hear the word God then close their ears when the word God is spoken"
They aren't forced to watch Mass nor attend Muslim Friday prayer so pretty much i am with you, if they feel offended then don't listen in. But i guess i take it that you think it IS going to far as much as i think it is.
@balaji3108 (21)
• India
1 Jan 09
i think this is not the correct way. we should respect the persons who have their own religious beleif .we should not disturb the other's feelings .
@nadooa247 (1096)
• United States
1 Jan 09
Okay... but they are trying to force THEIR believes down everyone else's throat... they feel it is offensive to mention God... so they are trying to make a case in court about it. They (atheists) don't seem to care much about other people's feelings... so why should everyone else care about their feelings?
They might not believe in a higher power but i don't see Buddhists nor any other group coming out and objecting... do you?