Does the rate of divorce have any correlation with the decline of faith?
By Makro74
@Makro74 (591)
January 1, 2009 9:49pm CST
Constantly, I hear of divorces rising in the developed and increasingly cohabiting on not seen as a sin but as a way of life. To divorce is costlier and messier. But 50 years ago, there was much more discipline in the male and female relationship and a real desire to fall in love and get married in a place of worship. Where is all that gone?
Also we see over the last 50 years, worship in churches declining over the years. During the World Wars, people were in fear and prayed alot more. I was wondering whether this decline has some impact on the need to get married??
Please share your thoughts
7 responses
@tjades (3591)
• Jamaica
2 Jan 09
I think that the present divorce rate is a spin off of several things. I think that the point you mentioned is one of rather than the sole reason for the increase in divorce.
Women are less willing to put up with certain things in a marriage and pass it off as the wifely duty to keep the marriage going at all cost. Many women are unwilling to endure what their mothers or other women close to them endured. These may include abuse, cheating, getting children outside of the marriage etc...
Another contributing factor I beleive is our haste to form relationships and get married without serious thought as to whether or not we were marrying the right person. We may have a good relationship with someone but once we marry and the reality of making life together sets in then the incompatibilities surface even more and many times prove to much to surmount.
50 years ago people were more willing to fight for and keep their marriage going because the union was held in such high regards. Many women from these marriages however, will tell of the hardships they endured and the things they had to put up with in order to keep the marriage intact.
I find this very unattractive as they are unable to share with us younger women the joy of marriage. They can speak highly of their children and their accomplishments but are almost mum on the joys of marriage. Plus I hate to see couples who seem to just barely tolerate each other for the sake of their children and public opinion.
I love to see elderly couples who truly enjoy each others company. No one seems to be jumping at the others commands but there is rather true respect for each other. I dont see an awful lot of these kind of couples so that to means that though many did not get a divorce they have grown apart from each other and are as good as divorced. Many sleep in separate beds or with their backs to each other and can be awfully ill tempered towards each other. they live this way and they die this way and i ask myself many times what was the sense of it all.
I would rather for couples and especially those who do not beleive in divorce (I dont either but will not stay in a union that is not working out), to live the the life of the marriage they preach about. Preaching one thing but living another is hypocrosy so I wonder why so many are being admonished to be this way.
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@sharra1 (6340)
• Australia
2 Jan 09
I quite agree that women are not content to suffer as their mothers did. My mother brought me up to have a better life and not be trapped in a marriage the way she was. That is how she saw it.
I think it has nothing to do with faith and everything to do with women refusing to put up with the second class life they used to have. They have dreams of achieving goals and are not content to settle for mother hood as a career. They want more out of life.
@sharra1 (6340)
• Australia
2 Jan 09
I do not believe it has anything to do with faith. It has everything to do with women having more options. They are no longer forced to abandon their careers on marriage. Many women felt trapped in marriages with no chance to leave. Divorce was difficult and favoured the man. The woman who was forced to abandon her career on marriage felt she had no ability to return to the work force and so that marriage was all they had.
These days women can work even after they get married as they no longer get sacked on marriage. They have access to education and careers so they are no longer financially dependent on their husbands and when the marriage does not work out they are able to leave and take care of themselves.
It has nothing to do with faith and everything to do with women refusing to be martyrs.
@sharra1 (6340)
• Australia
4 Jan 09
What I meant to say is that in the old days women had to stay in a marriage no matter how much they wanted to be free and now they are no longer forced to stay so they are more likely to walk out when things do not go right.
I think if divorce had been easier in the old days then more marriages would have failed than they did. The same applies to men. Go back far enough and divorce was almost impossible for men or women but they had mistresses that solved their problems. This was something the wife could not do without problems.
My nephew married a devout catholic girl and she broke it off after 2 years. He was not happy about it but she found that she could not live with him. Nothing to do with faith. Her parents gave her a huge church wedding which must have cost a fortune. I thought 2 years was not very long as they had been dating for 10 years.
But they say that you never know a person until you live within 4 walls with them. If you live together first and discover that you are not compatible you can walk out. If you marry and then find that you cannot live with this person then you get a divorce. I think that people are too selfish these days. They have jobs that demand them to work 24/7 sometimes and that is ridiculous. It is certainly not a life that encourages marriage, not if both partners are working all the time.
Personally I see no reason to get married. I live with my partner and we are very happy. I do not think that a certificate matters.
@Makro74 (591)
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4 Jan 09
Well written, and of course there is nothing to dispute here. Except is this this the only justification of the liberation of women as a sole factor for divorces. I would agree that this certainly explains women attitude towards marriage and making a non-committment to marriage or delaying marriage.
But it does not necessarily explain divorce. Divorce is messy and needs work to be avoided. If we take out the number of marriages where breakdowns are purely a male dominance problem, we still have all the other issues to contend with. Morality and religion encompasses both, the freedom of women to have a career, and for women to respect their duties as wives, as men as husbands. Whilst many find it difficult to strike the balance, without any faith or aspirations to faith, the strength is harder to find to better knee-jerk over-reactions which can these days take you on a path of no return to divorce.
Moreover, if you add in greedy divorce lawyers and their influence on destruction and factor in the balance of payments in settlements of divorce, these are in themselves deterrents for divorce. And one could also argue, that men often come out worse in settlements, and this is a deterrent for men to take the plunge.
Further, there is absolutely no difference in cohabiting and a piece of paper which says 'married'. The difference is a moral and a religous one. Marriage itself is enshrined with the principle of religion and firmly has its roots there. So if one is not religous, he/she is not likely to see the significance of marriage other than the pompous celebrations.
In the old days, if a mother and father gave birth in a hospital, the staff would be uncomfortable when the parents if they were not married, more so than a single mum. Nowadays, it is common all over. At the same time, religous minded people are on the decline as well as atheists and whilst I have no empirical evidence, I am sure that in these groups of people, marriage is the least common. That's just my observation, I could be totally wrong.
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@Barb42 (4214)
• United States
2 Jan 09
Things have definitely changed since I dated my husband and got married. When we married, we decided it was forever. There would be no divorce because we knew we were for each other. Most people now days get married with the impression 'if it does not work, we can get a divorce'. They never think about making it work and getting help if they have problems. They take the easy way out. I think it's more the decline in morals in our society. Let's live together and we have no responsibility and can walk out any time we want. Most of those never set foot in church, have no faith in God, and do whatever feels good to them.
I didn't get married in a church, so I know it doesn't take that to keep a marriage together. We were married by a Judge at the courthouse, and he gave us the talk of our lives before he would even marry us. But, having GOD in your life does make you think twice about separation and divorce. Oh, I can see someone divorcing because of adultery and can't work it out, but not just leaving someone because you no longer think you are right for one another. So many kids today are brought up in broken homes and don't know how to really relate in a marriage. They don't know how to really communicate and that is one of the most important things in making a marriage work, that and respect for yourself and your spouse.
@sunil_008 (1269)
• India
2 Jan 09
breaking in the marital status is really high in our society. though faith plays a vital role in breaking upsbut there are also some other factors which affects the marriage.the most important among them is the stress that we all feel in our life whether its from the society or financial or may be the independ life style that everyone needs today are the major factors. since in a marriage you have to obey and care about your partner and have to maintain a disciplined life ,but lack of patience in these days ruin all the holy vows that they had taken while accepting each other as man and woman.
@Makro74 (591)
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4 Jan 09
I would go one step further. The pace of life is making us more and more like programmed robots, we are getting more and more individualistic, and deregulation allows for less and less social policies. For a marriage to work, love, understanding and time is required.
However, encompassed in that is morality, the very fabric of humans. Guiding this morality is faith, faith in the person you are marrying and faith in the religion you follow. Since this gives a sense of purpose, one is more loving and caring for society than themselves. This is what I think the modern developed world has lost.
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@arkadeb313 (593)
• India
2 Jan 09
Hello dear makaro, the increase in divorce rate is influenced by many factors. And I think there is a correlation with decline in faith. In our country marriage is still mostly seen as religious bond and faith helps to keep the relation.
The society is always changing and will remain so. The liberation of woman, economic freedom and change in the social outlook towards divorced and single woman is changing all throughout the world. The women dared not to divorce even if they wanted to.Let us see where we reach after another fifty years.
Happy new year
@zaizab (24)
• Malaysia
2 Jan 09
The increasing number of divorces I believe is because of moral disintegration. People have no respect for each others matrimonial oath. It's a norm that married men go after married women or vice-versa. A third person involvement is always a cause of divorces. People only remember God when they are in hardship or despair that's why 50 years ago people were very close to God and fear Him. The more advance a society, the further it distance itself from true religion. 50 years ago a lot of women get married during tender age but now they don't even get married until they die or they prefer a live in partner and don't have to get married to avoid commitment.
@Makro74 (591)
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4 Jan 09
Some great points there. There was a time that small disputes were settled by the family, now its straight to the lawyer who's greed finds the best method of divorce, rather than make any attempt to reconcile.
Age, this is interesting, women often don't get married now until late 20's or 30's, or not at all. Men are now far more timid, they are afraid of committment.
Again, there seems to be a correlation with religion, as the institution of marriage does have its roots there.
@Ithink (9980)
• United States
2 Jan 09
I think a lot has changed in the world with relationships. Now days if a woman is really unhappy or even abused she doesn't always feel she has to stay. I think years back a lot of women just dealt with things even if they are miserable. I also think back then there was a stigma if you left, you know the gossip and ohh the older divorced woman.
I really cant say religion has anything to do with it as my husband and I have been married almost 25 years and we find strength in each other. I'm still trying to find what religion I belong in.. LOL! It is also only normally when things go bad that more seem to go to church and pray as they believe that will save them.
During the Wars people were scared, worried and that is why there was so many in churches in my opinion. I wont say that moral decline is down but I don't think that is totally it either. It comes down to their are a lot of different reasons, things have changed.