The Muslims against Israel

@raulgc01 (306)
Philippines
January 8, 2009 9:35pm CST
Last night while watching the news, I came across a video of a demonstration in front of the Israeli embassy. They were carrying bundles wrapped in white clothes, I suppose they represent bodies of dead children. Apparently, the demo is done by a group of Muslims the groups is led by a "Pastor" as per the news clip. When interviewed the "Pastor" was crying and was calling for the end of the siege and withdrawal from Gaza City by the Israeli military. He also said he did not approve the demand of some of his followers to bomb the Israeli Embassy. On the other side, a reporter was interviewing the Israeli ambassador, he was saying that Israel will not withdraw nor stop the siege, because the other side who fires rockets to their cities do not want peace but wanted the whole of Israel to be destroyed. Is this a war of religions, if the Israelis are Muslims, will the Muslims still do the same?
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@SirDent (14)
• United States
9 Jan 09
It is actually war stemmed from hate. Palestinians hate Israelis and vice versa. Until both sides decide to stop the hate the war will keep going on. One thing also, Israel has every right to exist on the land they are living. It was theirs before Palestine was even created. Palestine has no history dating back farther than 1967. They are the remnants of the Arabs who stayed in Israel after Israel became a nation once again in 1948. The term Palestine was mentioned at that time, but not applied. Israel has been in many wars since the one in '48. In 1954 Egypt seized an Israel ship as it attempted to enter the Suez Canal. In 55 Israel conducted raids against Egyptian guerrillas. In 56 the Sanai war took place as Israel seized the Sanai Peninsula and France and Britain seized the Suez Canal. Israel has been fought by Palestinians since 1960. Lots of guerrilla attacks by Arabs during this period and still today. The six day war in 1967 pitted Israel against 4 other Arab nations. Egypt, Jordan, Syria and Iraq. Israel destroyed the armies and artillery of these nations causing much embarrassment not only to those nations, but to all Arabs everywhere. Arabs hate Israel more than Israel hates Arabs. The battles will never end until the time that the Lord Jesus comes back and takes care of things. There is a lot more to say on this, but I think I have written enough here to show you what I am saying.
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@zamakh (517)
• South Korea
9 Jan 09
i think you got the wrong history there, espeacially the former part, palestine is under ottoman dynasty rule until 1917, and after that, when british and french defeated ottoman, they intended to make this area as international area, called palestine in english, or filistin in arabic or Eretz Yisrael in Hebrew. which is consist of people already living there (mostly arabs) and then this area planned home for muslims, jews, and christians. but the problem began when jews (the smallest number on this area) wanted to make a country for themselves. and then called all jewish around the world to move to this place. so, what i'm trying to said that, originally, all this part is palestine. but the jewish wanted their own part, and caused the conflict that occured until now.. pheeww.. what a long post i write here :D just check wikipedia and other sources if you didn't believe me. :D
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@raulgc01 (306)
• Philippines
9 Jan 09
So, Israel has all the right to be there, just like the Palestines, it is an inherent right of people to preserve their race. Israel's action to call on all Jews around the world to unite and have a country of their own in a place where they know is theirs (according to biblical history)is justified. Why do the other arab nations wanted them out.
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• United States
9 Jan 09
zamakh, if you want to get technical, the Bible states God gave the land to Abraham. It encompassed much more than Israel and Palestine combined. God never took the land back from them either. I wrote an article about the birth of Palestine a few months ago. It isn't a really long article, but has maps from the days of the Old Testament to more recent. I am not sure I can post graphics on my comemnts here or not so it is best to go there to view them all. [url]http://hubpages.com/hub/The-Birth-of-Palestine[/url] The original use of the word Palestine was used by Roman Emporer Hadrian. He used it to embarrass Israel. Also if you search through the Old Testament, the first thing conquering nations tried to do was change the names of those they captured. The three Hebrew children in Daniel are proof.
• India
9 Jan 09
If the Israelis were Muslims, this conflict would not have started in the first place. If what I come across in the net is true, then after the creation of Israel out of the surrounding Arab territory, the Israelis over the years have been grabbing more and more of land and pushing the Palestinians further away from the land which they lived off for centuries. That particular land is a very holy place and should rightfully belong to both the Arabs and the Israelis. If there was a proper division of the land, then maybe this conflict would not have started. What is going on right now is just a blame game of who fires how many rockets and since Israel is more powerful (courtesy the USA) it is just pushing harder than the Palestinians.
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• United States
9 Jan 09
Originally, Israel emcompassed all of the nation of Jordan, Modern Israel and Palestine, a chunk of Turkey, a chunk of Iran, and a chunk or Iraq. It may have encompassed even more. How can they steal land that is theirs to begin with?
• Canada
9 Jan 09
This war is not about religion.This war is all about hate and how Palestinians are suffering because of this hatred. Israelis must and should stop this war. They are violating the human rights, they are killing innocent people and they are asking for the land that was never their in the first place.
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@raulgc01 (306)
• Philippines
9 Jan 09
If its not a war about religion, why do everybody think that if Israel is Muslim, there will be no war and everybody can live in peace.
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@sindra (1117)
• Indonesia
9 Jan 09
hmmmmm
• United States
9 Jan 09
LOL. Don't hold anything back do you. :P
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• United States
9 Jan 09
I think it's very hard to say. If the Israelis had been muslim, then Israel would not even exist, since it broke away specifically to be a Jewish nation. So none of this ever would have happened. I can understand why the Palestinians feel that Israel should not have been created, but the fact is that it *was* created, has pretty much global support, and it's not going away. So they can accept that and learn to live in peace, or they can continue to lob bombs into Israel until Israel has had enough and completely occupies the Gaza strip.
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@zamakh (517)
• South Korea
9 Jan 09
i think the main things that people now complaining about (not only muslim, i pretty confidence on saying this). that israel is still violating many UN treaty and resolution about OCCUPIED TERRITORY. which is Palestine (Gaza Strait and West Bank). israel treated both of the places as if the places is their's. they put security post INSIDE OF PALESTINE and acting like They are ON THEIR OWN LAND. and the fact they claiming "defending act" is just irrational, which one is defending their land?
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• Netherlands
25 Jan 09
I hope they will officially declare Gaza a country on its own. Because i think this would be the best way to handle a genuine peace process.
@raulgc01 (306)
• Philippines
9 Jan 09
I think Israel's putting security forces inside of Palestine would be betterm, because it could have stopped the Hamas from firing rockets into Israel. Then there will be no need for Israel to fire back or attack Gaza City thereby preventing the deaths of innocent civilians.
@canxnac (421)
• Indonesia
10 Jan 09
Don't Palestinians also have the right to defend the country that's originally belong to them? And as far as I know, the Hamas rocket firings to Israel territory did not kill even one Israeli since the beginning of the truce. Moreover, the Israeli killing innocent civilians and even harmless children is a violation to human rights, and MUST be stopped.
@urbandekay (18278)
3 Feb 09
It is a war about territory and for the Israelis, survival all the best urban
@triwahyu (26)
9 Jan 09
History records that Israel cane colonize Palestine with the helped England Europe andan USA.Israel slaughter of muslim since colonization.Israel is the problem maker in teh middle east. therefor, the muslim needs unity to dispel Israel
• Romania
9 Jan 09
No. The Muslim's war is not against the Israeli but against the Jews.
• Netherlands
25 Jan 09
in europe it's all OK. No problems. Why? Because we have a good police force and army here.
@raulgc01 (306)
• Philippines
10 Jan 09
So you are saying that this is a war of religions...the Muslims versus the Jews
• Romania
10 Jan 09
Take a look at what's happening in europe.
• Singapore
9 Jan 09
And the muslim claim themselves as holy.........
@the_ruler (1442)
• Turkey
9 Jan 09
so do the jews
@lampar (7584)
• United States
24 Jan 09
Seem to me more like a war of hatred between Arab and Jew, each want more territory and land for Palestine and Israel. Arab has control almost all of middle east land but want more, Jew has control over a tiny piece of land but want a bigger piece. Both are using terror to achieve their goal.
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@sins1984 (32)
• Sweden
10 Jan 09
this is an endless discussion.. no one here will accept others opinions.. so its useless to say anything... because this will create more hatered among people of different religions... above all.. when we can't do anything practically.. then dont just login here and gossip about this serious topic... so be calm and try to play your positive roll in real life.. this is all we can do.. and this is all i have to say here.. thank you
• Egypt
15 Jan 09
No one can deny that Religion is a huge part of the conflict the solo reason Israel was created was to unite the Jew of the world, since they didn't have a country of their own, that's why starting from 1948 Jews from all over the world went to Palestine and decided that it was once their land (pre-history) so they want it back so they killed and terrorized the people living in the area till the took hold of most of it. at the time all the Arab countries were under occupation (some were under British occupation some were under French occupation ) including Palastine. so they couldn't stop the UK from giving that land to the Jew in what was known as the Belford's promise.