This just seems immature to me...
By saundyl
@saundyl (9783)
Canada
January 13, 2009 9:15am CST
This morning I got to work to find out that my co-worker quit. Last week she called in sick 3 out of 5 days, she didnt bother calling in yesterday and this morning my boss came in to work to find a NOTE saying she quit without notice and that her paycheques can be forwarded to a mailing address. She left owing money for a laptop, not leaving us notes about what she was working on on THREE systems so I'm left guessing...She came in this morning before we were open (yay for fresh snow fall we know when she came in) and left the note rather than coming in at 8:30 and telling him.
Leaving a note and avoiding people just seems immature to me. She needs to bring back her keys. I know she was mad about our boss requiring us to fill out time sheets of what we did through out the day but thats not a big deal it was so we are aware of what we are doing/when and how long a system takes so we bill right. But other than that...she didnt say anything at all about being unhappy.
If i quit i'd give two weeks notice and tell my boss to his face.
I admit i did quit by letter once but that was because when i tried to tell the boss i was quitting and why she told me she didnt have time for this and avoided me for the next week. So i gave her a dated letter and let the other boss know i would be gone as of the date stipulated in the letter. I also gave two weeks notice.
Does the note and sneaking in like that seem immature to you too or is it just me? If you quit a job how would you quit? would you give notice
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17 responses
@p1kef1sh (45681)
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23 Jan 09
I have to ay that sneaking in seems very immature. That said, when I got sick my boss left it 11 weeks before he contacted me - by letter. I had rung in - but only got his voicemail apart from the first day when my wife called as I was in no fit state to. His message then was "sorry you're sick. When are you coming back?" That kind of made my mind up for me. I didn't want to speak to him after that. I was allowed six months on full pay so I took it and then resigned. He never contacted me again during the whole of those six months. Colleagues did and I know passed him messages but he never said a another word. I sent in my sick notes and then wrote to the CEO resigning. I knew how important I was to the organisation when the person that accepted my resignation turned out to be someone that I had never heard of (I worked for them for 31 years). Just to put this in some perspective, I was head of my department and a member of the senior management team.
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@UK_Shree (3603)
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13 Jan 09
I guess its difficult to figure out what caused her to behave that way. The right thing to do would have definitely been for her to give more notice and deal face-to-face with her resignation. But maybe she had other problems in her life which meant that dealing with leaving her job was low priority.
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@anne25penn (3305)
• Philippines
23 Jan 09
I always give notice when I quit jobs. The only time I was not able to serve the required notice time was due to an emergency because my mother was diagnosed with cancer and I had to take care of her. Giving notice also gives you time to turn over any pending work that you may have.
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@ronaldinu (12422)
• Malta
23 Jan 09
I think it is a sign of irresponsibility and immaturity. If the boss was not treating her right than it is one thing. But if she is fed up or has found a better job I think it is her responsibilty to inform her present owner with her decision two weeks in advance. I quit a job as a salesperson but I just went to the office and faced my boss as a man should do even if he tried to persuade me to stay
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@saundyl (9783)
• Canada
23 Jan 09
Finally talked to her on tuesday - She said that she was stressed from her divorce/ex husband not wanting to divorce and that she felt that our boss was micromanaging by wanting us to fill in shees regarding how long we were working on computers or assisting customers. I guess to me the sheets werent a big deal as he does this every year for a week or two and then adjusts pricing and scheduling accordingly. So if she had waited an extra week or so she wouldnt have had to deal with that.
It was the way she quit and the lies she told that bugged me the most.
@ladym33 (10979)
• United States
25 Jan 09
I had a terrible boss one time, and I had been with the company for 7 years of which she had been my boss for 2 of those, essentially ruining a job for me that I had loved previously. She was just becoming way to unbearable to work with, and the owners were allowing her to treat me and several others terribly. Finally one day that final straw was drawn. I would have loved to have quit right then and there and part of me was tempted to just walk out. But I decided to be professional about it. I already had an interview that night, but I gave a 2 weeks notice. I decided to do the mature thing. But I did get notice in a letter, and I was called in at the end of the day. They told me with the sensitivity of my job that it was probably better if I left that day, and they said they would pay me for the 2 weeks, that was a pleasant surprise.
I didn't really get to say good bye to anyone, but every one I cared about knew I was leaving. Unfortunately since I had the interview I had to rush off, and didn't get a chance to say personal goodbyes, that is kind of regretful. But I did have lunch with a couple of my co-workers, and explained what happened so they could pass that information along to the others. Honestly I wanted to burn my boss and leave her empty handed by just walking out, but I decided to be mature and professional and do things properly. I am proud that I made the decision to handle it that way.
@saundyl (9783)
• Canada
25 Jan 09
That sounds like it was a stressful situation. A very nice surprise that they paid you for the two weeks after you gave notice and they asked you to leave right away.
I think now a couple weeks AFTER she quit the way she did what bugs me the most is that she didnt take the time to tell myself or her other friend goodbye or even make any contact with us.
@fireheart99 (69)
• United States
14 Jan 09
It sounds like that person is just plain lazy... does not want to work, and the job didn't hold any importance for her. Hopefully she will realize someday that she needs to be respectful and courteous in your employment for bosses and co-workers to take her seriously.
@tammytwo (4298)
• United States
14 Jan 09
This is immature. I believe she should have spoke to the boss face to face. I was fired from my last job in 2008 because we got a new boss and she didn't feel I should be in the position because I didn't have a degree in that field. The day prior to me being fired I had gone in to the boss' office to speak with her because I knew something just wasn't right and I wanted to be the bigger person and resolve the issue. She then told me I didn't deserve to be in that position and that me not having a degree was like a teacher without a teaching degree. She went on to give me a number of excuses she felt were reason enough for me to not be in the position. I hadn't done anything wrong and she said I good a good work ethic but I wasn't right for the position although I had been doing it for nearly two years. Anyway I came in the next morning to find a box on a chair next to my desk and that box already had some of my personal belongings in it. I guess she thought I would take that as being fired and leave before she arrived. I waited and spoke to her personally because if she wanted me gone I felt she should have to say it to my face. Her reason for firing me that morning was because she just couldn't work with me anymore.
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@syeryn (573)
• United States
13 Jan 09
A few words come to mind and immature is one of them. Unprofessional, irresponsible and cowardly also come to mind too though.
I have never left a position without offering at least a two week notification that I going to resign. In several cases I offered a month because I knew that locating a replacement would take some time. I have always worked with former employers to return to work for a short period to assist them in training another person to complete the job I once filled.
I have many doors that are still open to me today because of the respectful way I parted company with a former employer. You never know when you might be in need of employment again so why cut off those connections.
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@saundyl (9783)
• Canada
13 Jan 09
I like those words!
I quit once without a full 2 weeks notice - i gave 5 days to the end of my scheduled shifts. I quit in part because my hours i was promised werent met..i got 3 hours a day rather than 8 hours a day. And the other job i had offered me full time. I did complete the week though.
@moonlitmagikchild (22181)
• United States
14 Jan 09
i always give notice.. i think there has only been like 1-2 times i havent and once was because the whole situation got abusive and i couldnt talk to my boss at all about it because he was gone all the time when it started and his wife wanted me gone and woudlnt stop till it happened..
the other time i didnt know but i had to move quick and had really notice of my own to where i could give it to my work.. i felt bad but oh well..
other wise i give 2 weeks or more if possible..
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@saundyl (9783)
• Canada
14 Jan 09
i think theres situations where notice is nice...but you cant give it but other situations where its totally needed.
I guess i almost feel that if she quit because of the time sheets and us asking for a list of scheduled service calls (so if people are sick (from everyone not just her) we can call and reschdule rather than me getting yelled at by customers for not calling because i wasnt told where people were going) that thats really a silly reason to quit because its just etiquette to cancel if needed.
@syankee525 (6261)
• United States
14 Jan 09
i think so too, and way jobs are harder to find these days pretty dumb just to walk away. i know if i was her boss and she used the company for a new job i wouldn't give her a refence.
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@Opal26 (17679)
• United States
14 Jan 09
Hey saundyl! Yes it does seem immature and quite stupid! How
does she expect to get another job or a reference? In this
day and age with the world the way it is you just don't do
this type of thing! You don't walk out on a job this way
where there is no chance to get a decent reference! She must
be very young and immature to do something like this without
really thinking it through! This is going to definitely hurt
her in the end! She was wrong in doing it the way she did it!
She left things up in the air, no one knows what she was
working on and you said she owes money for a laptop! And she
expects to get her last checks? Not a very smart way to leave!
She had better have a really great job lined up and not want
to ever come back!
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@saundyl (9783)
• Canada
14 Jan 09
When i went to collect her keys she had told her mom a whole different story that she had gone to work and our boss fired her for being sick (i cant see that happen others have been sick longer and not been fired). I was there before my boss this morning and she had been there tracks in the snow from her boots and her car alarm wasnt set etc but the doors were locked and he came in after dropping his kids off at school (he's always a good 20 minutes later than i am) and asked if she'd been in i said i thought so and that she hadnt called in sick. He came out of his office a while later with her timesheet and to it a note saying I'm sorry i must quit I'm moving today please forward my pay cheques to and gave her moms mailing address.
I hadnt known this when i tried to call her about a system she had been working on...in the end i went over to talk to her and her mom gave me her keys...told me she told her the boss fired her and that she wasnt talking to anyone - hiding in her room and wouldnt let her mom answer the phone. At which point i said well she was in before ian and she left a note saying she quit on his desk for him.
Her mom said well that lying little (insert swear word here) and then before i got back to work she had called the boss and apologized for her daughter's irresponsible immature behavior and told him no she was NOT moving at all that that was a lie too.
It was quite an interesting day.
@jesssp (2712)
• Canada
13 Jan 09
I have given my notice it writing but I presented the letter face to face and gave two weeks. I think it is immature to call in sick like that and then just leave a little note, and if she owes money I hope they can take it off her cheque. People don't seem to have much respect for employers, and employment, and like to take the easy way out. If I were to quit my current job then I would give a letter of resignation because there would be a lot of things I want to say and I would want to make sure I didn't forget anything. But I would give my boss the letter and talk to him about it.
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@Ysabel (1201)
• Philippines
14 Jan 09
hello saundyl. it is not just immature but also i should say she is so unprofessional! whatever her reasons are for quitting, there should be a proper turn-over of responsibilities and of course, i agree with you, for her to give the advance notice as a courtesy to your employer, to be able to find a replacement.
personally, i am on my first job and i have been here for years, so i have not experience leaving a job yet. =)
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@saundyl (9783)
• Canada
14 Jan 09
I've gone through a few jobs - mostly internships that i didnt have to quit from they ended or summer jobs that were done and i was invited back the next year.
I did quit two jobs...one i was being underpaid the hours i worked i was working more than i got paid for and i asked her about it and she told me that even though we were expected to stay after closing she wouldnt pay us for it. I tried to tell her i quit but she wouldnt talk to me so i told her counterpart and gave her a letter that was dated with 2 weeks notice.
The other i quit i gave a weeks notice to finish off the scheduled shifts but i offered more hours at the other job i had and the job i quit from was giving me less than half the hours i was promised when i started.
I just figured that since she didnt even attempt to talk him it was really bad of her.
@mein_traum (132)
• Hong Kong
13 Jan 09
That's immature and irresponsible. She needs to at least hand over all her outstanding duties. Walking in and out of the office without letting others know is so strange and sneaky.
The law in our city states that any one side who wants to terminate the employment has to give one-month notice after probation period, unless specified otherwise in the employment contract.
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@saundyl (9783)
• Canada
13 Jan 09
Law here states an employee doesnt HAVE to give notice unless stipulated in the contract.
I figured the sneaking in...and after i was sent to collect her keys - refusing to talk to me about the systems she left unfinished so i could complete them as well as telling her mom she was fired for being sick rather than that she quit was all just as immature.
@Frederick42 (2024)
• Canada
14 Jan 09
This certainly sounds immature, but we have no idea of the personality or character of the person. All the traits of personality behaviour come from childhood. Moreover, we also have no idea what went on between this person and the boss. The boss does not tell you how he himself has behaved with this girl. So, I would find it difficult to say she is immature and I say it may be the mistake of the boss.
@saundyl (9783)
• Canada
14 Jan 09
I think it has alot to do with her home life as well she felt our boss was micromanaging when he asked us to fill out time sheets so we could track if we were billing enough of we should up or lower prices - he does it every year and this is the first year she was here for it
@troatunit (21)
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13 Jan 09
I wouldn't think that immature is the word I would use, but it is indeed not very ethical, thoughtful and lacks courage on their part.
I recently quit my job, the company I quit has now gone into administration, to get a new career direction and I talked to my bosses to their faces about my decision and they had a letter confirming it by the end of that day. They were all very supportive and understanding of my decision so in this instance it was the best thing to do.
I can see the advantages of not telling you or your bosses to your faces, though I do not agree with it, it does make it a lot easier (due to the training and updates that you need with the system and where she is at on things)
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@saundyl (9783)
• Canada
13 Jan 09
I was sent to collect the keys (she didn't leave them) and she told her mom that she was fired - not that she quit. She also refused to talk to anyone and was refusing to let her mom answer the phone when i called to ask what needed to be done with the systems she was working on.
A letter confirming your resignation is good.
I was quite surprised to hear she said she was fired esp when the boss said he hadnt seen her at all and anytime anyone else has quit or been fired he's asked for the keys at that time and paid them before they left.
@CRIVAS (1815)
• Canada
14 Jan 09
not only was she being immature, it was completely unprofessional of her to quit like that. Truthfully it seems to me that by leaving a note and sneaking into the office, she is being extremely cowardly. I think that you have every right to be angry with her especially if she has left you and your fellow workers in the dark. I mean if she was unhappy about something she should have tried to resolve the problem before quitting. If you want my opinion, I think that you are all better off without a co-worker like that around. I hope that you figure things out and that things go better.
