What do you think about
By LuckyLadyD
@LuckyLadyD (359)
United States
January 14, 2009 7:20pm CST
doing business with a company here in the US, and when you have a problem, you call and the person on the other end doesn't understand English?
It's very frustrating, and insulting because I spend all my cell minutes trying to get help from them, and they don't understand my problem. I keep going in circles, and when they talk to me, they sound rude because they don't use english words in the proper context. The way they use some words is very demeaning.
Have you had this problem? Most recently, this happened with Microsoft. What companies have you had this experience with?
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@wkl0442 (46)
• United States
15 Jan 09
More and more companies are moving their customer service overseas to save money. The companies are hurting themsefves because many people including myself look for alternatives when I run into trouble with non english speaking customer service.
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@LuckyLadyD (359)
• United States
16 Jan 09
Hello, and thank you for responding to my discussion.
I do see many major corporations moving their customer service departments oversees, and agree that saving money is their motivation.
However, when I have a problem with their product, and have to call them, I truly don't appreciate the manner in which I am spoken to.
Often times, they don't even let me talk, and they have the attitude that the important thing is that they talk. It's been so frustrating, and not helpful at all. Most of the time, I just hang up out of frustration, and put my head into my problem. Eventually I come up with the solution myself, or I surf the internet, and wala the answer was the the whole time.
It's so amazing what you can find online these days.
So when you run into trouble communicating with the customer service departments you have to call, what alternatives have you used.
@BlueGoblin (1829)
• United States
28 Jan 09
Yeah, it happened when my Sony Laptop broke but the customer service was actually in California. The guy that helped me knew very little English. I was wondering if I hit espanol or something.
I heard Jack in the Box outsourced the drive-through orders. Can you imagine ordering a burger from them now? Fudge that! I won't order anything from any place that outsources the drive-through orders. They screw up my order now? How is it going to be better with this new service?
But it's not just over the phone, I went to Subway and nobody knew English. I was very calm and just laughed. They actually gave me more than I was suppose to receive so no complaints.
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@phoenix25 (1541)
• United States
1 Feb 09
You might have been talking to a call center in India. I used to work for a call center that outsourced some of its calls to Indian call centers. They are usually trained to tell people that they're located somewhere in the US and they usually do so by giving a vague location like, "We're located in California," or "We're located in Nevada." I'm confused about how Jack in the Box could outsource drive-through orders, though. How would that even make sense to do that? It would be more time-consuming and expensive because you'd be paying more people to do the same job.
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@LuckyLadyD (359)
• United States
1 Feb 09
OMG!!!
I had no idea it was that bad!!! I'm definately working too much!
In relation to your laptop, if they said they were in California, they are probably Hispanics hired primarily to handle Spanish speaking callers. That doesn't do much for use who need help in English.
Explain how Jack in the Box can outsource it's drive thru. I just can't wrap my brain around that one.
More and more, the businesses in the US we enter are owned by foreigners. Not only do they not speak or understand English very well, but they also think themselves much more superior to us that they look down their noses at us.
Each time I enter one of these establishments, I can feel their hatred of me. I may be reading more into it, but I learned long ago to listen to my instincts.
I for one do not need their services enough to stay and do business with these typed of business people. These are the very same individuals who can come into our country, get loans, health care, tax breaks, social security benefits, welfare benefits and just about any other benefit this country has to offer where we, who live here and pay taxes get the door slammed in our face when we fall on hard times.
There is less and less true justice in this, the country I was born and raised in.
@tammytwo (4298)
• United States
28 Jan 09
I don't like it when I have this happen to me neither. I don't want to offend anyone here but I believe it is time that each country take care of their own people first. The economy in America is in the crapper and no one understands that shipping jobs to other countries has something to do with it. I don't understand how it can be saving much money when you factor in the shipping costs. It's time the government makes some changes and they need to do it quick. Sure hope I am around to see some good come of a bad situation.
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@LuckyLadyD (359)
• United States
1 Feb 09
True, and thus the whole reason for bringing this up.
We, the consumer are the backbone of any company. And, any company interested in surviving, should be interested in repeat business.
Outsourcing our jobs overseas has only put the final naile in our economic coffins.
Taking care of our families is getting harder, and harder to do.
Big business, and the government that allows them to do what they are doing really needs to accept they are to blame.
They are so greedy, and only think of their own bottom lines. That mentality is bring our country to ruin.
What can we, as tax paying American citizens do to make these idiots see what they have done?
@phoenix25 (1541)
• United States
1 Feb 09
I used to work for 2 different relay centers for the deaf and hard of hearing. Some of you may be familiar with what they do. Basically, we use the phone for people who can't hear or speak and relay conversations back and forth between parties on the phone. I can't tell you how many customer service numbers I've had to call and gotten connected with a person at a call center in India who barely understands English, much less how the relay service works. This is one reason that I try not to do business with companies that outsource. Dell outsources, which is one reason I didn't buy one of their computers.
@LuckyLadyD (359)
• United States
1 Feb 09
Exactly!
That's what I'm talking about.
If more of us stopped doing business with these types of business, even if for just this reason, they we may be helping our fellow citizens right back into the very jobs that were taken away from them.
I do understand the system you speak of for the hard of hearing. I'm in customer service and have taken many such calls myself.
The kicker with that service is that MANY MANY scam artists are now using them to scam business owners out of products, and services.
Some people are just sleeze bags. How low will people go for the mighty dollar?
@sudalunts (5523)
• United States
28 Jan 09
I understand exactly what you are saying. I was talking to a woman in customer service about a late payment. She keep skirting around what I was trying to explain to her. After a while, I just said, can I do it or not???? She did not sound friendly, or warm or caring.
When I speak to a customer service person who speaks and understands english, they are very kind, concerned and caring.
I do not mean to discriminate against non english customer service people, but maybe they have not been trained completely, or they think that if they sound rude, it makes them sound like they are aggressive strong people in charge of the conversation.
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@LuckyLadyD (359)
• United States
1 Feb 09
Hi sudalunts and thank you for your message.
I agree whole heartedly, and your experience is EXACTLY what I'm talking about.
These are companies we do business with in some way or another, yet they take our jobs overseas so they don't have to pay the taxes involved of doing business in our country.
Unfortunately, in doing so they are forcing us to speak with people who due to the lack of commanding the english language, they use words out of context, thus makes them sound rude. I know it's not intentional, but if we spoke to our employers customers that way, we would be out of a job!
When that happens, the word changes the tone, and meaning of what they are trying to say.
I personally, am slowly getting away from businesses that engage in moving their customer services overseas. I would much rather deal with companies here in the US, who know how to use the English language.
Our economy is in big trouble, and I feel it's in large part due to them trying to save money by taking our jobs overseas. Maybe if they weren't so greedy, their companies would be much more successful.
Thanks again....
@Carpathian (582)
• United States
1 Feb 09
Easy, I ask for someone that speaks better English because I am having trouble understanding them, if they refuse or say Mama, I can help you! I say can I speak with your supervisor or another worker? If it is to bad then I try to go to the office that I am doing business with. Usually, they have some local office. If that does not work then, usually I change to another company, I take my business else where. My hubby just gets on the phone and he will say get me someone born in American that speaks English or I am going to sue. And, if you think I am being trouble now just wait and see what I do if you don't! Usually, he get's another person right away! LOL But, I sometimes mess with them if I get someone that speaks another language I will start talking a rapid made-up language with English in it. So, that they have trouble understanding me, they always say, "What? What? Please, hold one moment!" Then, I get someone new. Usually, someone English! LOL Yes, I am Evil, but Funny!!!
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@LuckyLadyD (359)
• United States
1 Feb 09
OMG!!! You are too funny!!!
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
I'll try to remember that!