Prs. Barack Hussein Obama, you are a Classless Oaf!
By ParaTed2k
@ParaTed2k (22940)
Sheboygan, Wisconsin
January 20, 2009 6:12pm CST
Inauguration day has traditionally been a day where party politics are set aside. The outgoing and incoming presidents are usually cordial and gracious to each other, no matter the party or what was said during the election.
For Formere Prs. Bush's part, the tradition was upheld. For Prs. Obama's part, I guess that was just too much to expect from him.
Even though I don't like the fact that Prs. Obama was elected, I still looked forward to watching the inauguration and the speech. I'm a political junky and much like the football fan who will watch a game, even if he doesn't like either teach playing. Presidential elections are like the olympics to me. I don't have to like the players to appreciate what is happening.
One thing I had great expectations for was Prs. Obama's speech. If there is one thing the guy can do, and do well, it is give a speech.
Sorry to say, I was disappointed. The delivery was ok, but in no way lived up to what we have seen from him during the campaign. I heard he wanted to write this one himself.. if this is true, my advice to Prs. Obama is, you stick to what you do best, and let your writers do what they do best.
But delivery and composition weren't the biggest disappointment of the day. Democrats like to accuse us Republicans of being sore losers if we dare breath a negative sentiment about Obama. Well, today Prs. Obama proved that he is a sore winner.
Prs. Obama, you're president now, you can stop campaigning. Has there ever been an inauguration speech with more personal shots at the outgoing president than what we witnessed today?
Also, Rev. Joseph Lowery, when was the last time you saw a Black person forced to sit in the back of the bus? The racist crack in your prayer about "Black's in the back" was pathetic. You were praying at the inauguration of a Black Man! What did you mean by "Black's in the back"? The back of the limo? The back of Air Force 1?
Presidents usually end up aging a lot during their terms. Let's hope Prs. Obama's aging includes growing up!
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18 responses
@lvaldean (1612)
• United States
21 Jan 09
Lord, in the memory of all the saints who from their labors rest, and in the joy of a new beginning, we ask you to help us work for that day when black will not be asked to get in back, when brown can stick around, when yellow will be mellow, when the red man can get ahead, man; and when white will embrace what is right. That all those who do justice and love mercy say Amen. Say Amen."
Is this what you are talking about? It wouldn't be the first time Rev Lowery said these words, or the first time that Obama has heard him say them. This is why he included them in his benediction today. He also included several Biblical references, Issiah, Micah, Amos. He also included lines from "Lift Every Voice", a song written by James Weldon Johnson, and known as "The Negro National Anthem".
As for Obama's words I say good for him, he saw an opportunity and he took it. Not an opportunity to spank the outgoing president although if any outgoing president needed it surely it is Bush. But no, instead he saw an opportunity to speak to the world and say that it is a new day and a new administration. That there will be changes, some will be slow and others more rapid. We will not live with the status quo any longer. Those who would be our working partners will find us open to those relationships, despite old enmities. If Bush got his feelings hurt tough spit!
By the way Ted, it is President Obama now. Get over it.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
21 Jan 09
Do you really think more people were listening today than any of the speeches he has given so far? I've been to an Obama Campaign Rally. I have witnessed first hand his ability to deliver a speech. He was nowhere near par for his course. The speech wasn't written as well, nor was it delivered as well as he has done in the past.
As for racist, sorry, but if a minister saying a prayer at Prs. Bush's inaugural had of spouted racist remarks like "Blacks in Back" he would have been crucified.
You say he's a product of his time, and you may have a point there, but I doubt you'd be so understanding if someone used the word "colored" just because it's the word they grew up with.
So I say to you, if you were bugged by this article, in your own immortal words... "Tough Spit". Btw, yes, it is Prs. Obama now, but I don't owe any more allegience to him as I owed to Prs. Bush and I spoke out against him when I saw fit. But I guess that's fine with you since Prs. Bush is supposed to be spoken out against and your Master Obama is just too precious to question.
Now you can get over it, and yourself.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
21 Jan 09
and the new president and that reverend are both racists.
Yes, he is president, I don't have a problem with that. He was elected and sworn it.
What I have a problem with is his childish shots at the last administration on a day that is traditionally party free.
Or is he so important that he's beyond the critique of us mere mortals?
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@lvaldean (1612)
• United States
21 Jan 09
No he is not so important that he is beyond criticism. However, criticism should be directed appropriately. His speech was intentional in its direction to the world at large. It wasn't party politics it was a message to the world and the nation. He used a forum that he knew he would have a world audience, possibly the one time he knew his audience would be that large and he spoke the words that needed to be spoken, that the new administration would make changes and significant changes over the old administration.
This is not party politics. This is the act of a very smart man.
As for being racist. Hardly. He is likely one of the least racist Black men out there. Does he understand who he is, yes. Does he understand the limitations that others face, yes. Does he understand the Civil Rights movement, yes. But understanding these things and the history of this nation does not make a person racist.
Is the Rev racist? No probably not. Is he a product of his time? Yes he probably is that. We all are. Every single one of us are the product of our history and our experiences.
But you go ahead and find fault with both men. You were prepared to do so anyway and the idea of arguing over the issue is senseless. I believe that Obama gave the right speech. I believe that the Rev gave the prayer that was in his heart to give just as Rick Warren gave the prayer that was in his.
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@maddie007 (141)
• United States
21 Jan 09
Why is it people that didn't vote for Obama or like the fact that he's president labeled "racist"? When I first heard about Obama I thought he was okay until one of the debates where Joe Biden and him couldn't take a side on certain issues. What does he stand for? What actions will he take? As a president I want a LEADER someone that can show people he has a plan and his own thoughts. I think the reason he's president is because he tries to be hip, young and yes his race was also a factor because races stick together. I've never seen so much publicity and exposure on one president and it seems like he's celebrity status more than a president.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
22 Jan 09
True, Maddie, so many people say they don't care about race, but for some reason they seem to make race the only thing that matters.
@urbandekay (18278)
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24 Jan 09
Ery. don't know how things quite stand over there but over here
" I see those who don't like Obama throwing things out about him without ANY evidence or documentation. That is the usual tactics of racists,"
That is the usual tactic not of racists but that other bunch of rogues, politicians!
all the best urban
@murderistic (2278)
• United States
22 Jan 09
Did anyone actually call you a racist or imply you were one? Or are you just going on what you've heard other people who didn't support Obama say? I'm not trying to discount your claim, but I've heard a few people say what you've said, so I'm just wondering if you're speaking of a personal experience or what you've read/heard from others.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
21 Jan 09
"On this day, we come to proclaim an end to the petty grievances and false promises, the recriminations and worn out dogmas, that for far too long have strangled our politics."
"that the stale political arguments that have consumed us for so long no longer apply."
"Its power to generate wealth and expand freedom is unmatched, but this crisis has reminded us that without a watchful eye, the market can spin out of control — and that a nation cannot prosper long when it favors only the prosperous."
"As for our common defense, we reject as false the choice between our safety and our ideals. Our Founding Fathers, faced with perils we can scarcely imagine, drafted a charter to assure the rule of law and the rights of man, a charter expanded by the blood of generations. Those ideals still light the world, and we will not give them up for expedience's sake."
"To the Muslim world, we seek a new way forward, based on mutual interest and mutual respect. To those leaders around the globe who seek to sow conflict, or blame their society's ills on the West — know that your people will judge you on what you can build, not what you destroy. To those who cling to power through corruption and deceit and the silencing of dissent, know that you are on the wrong side of history; but that we will extend a hand if you are willing to unclench your fist."
"These things are true. They have been the quiet force of progress throughout our history. What is demanded then is a return to these truths."
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
28 Jan 09
I still stand by my original response. I guess we'll have to respectfully agree to disagree because I still don't see any personal shots in Obama's speech. I think it was appropriate that he pointed out the differences there will be in this new Administration and I thought he did it in a very nice and civil way. There are some people who don't and haven't supported Obama from the beginning who wouldn't be happy with anything less than a speech singing the outgoing Administrations praises and vowing to continue the same policies but that is very clearly not what the country wanted to hear or wants to have happen.
Annie
@carolscash (9492)
• United States
21 Jan 09
I didn't take his comments as personal shots against Bush. I took them to be his intentions on what our country needs to do in order to get us out of the downward spiral that we have been in for awhile now. He wants us to know that he will get the job done. People who don't like him need to sit back, be quiet and allow him to do his work. Complain about him in 2 or 3 years when he has been in office long enough to handle the 8 yers of mistakes that have been made and then you will have a reason to complain if he has not improved life for most of us.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
21 Jan 09
Be quiet? Why?
Is he so weak that his presidency can't take criticism?
Last I checked it is the right of us all to speak out for or against any president as we see fit. Or does that only apply when there is a Republican in the White House?
Guess what, Prs. Obama doesn't fart sunshine and piss champaign. He's going to make mistakes, he's going to get people killed, he's going to do things that could get him impeached.
I don't say those things because I don't support him, I say those things because they are true of all presidents.
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@lilwonders456 (8214)
• United States
21 Jan 09
Looks like he is already starting to campaign for his next four years and its looks like he is going to campaign against Bush again instead of the candidate. Hey if it worked the first time it may work a second time. Who knows. I did think it was funny that he was talking about unity while he took pot shots at Bush.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
21 Jan 09
Yeah, I wonder how nimble his tongue has to be for him to talk out of both sides of his mouth. ;~D
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
21 Jan 09
Glad I could give you a laugh... and drag you into a political discussion ;~D
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@djbtol (5493)
• United States
21 Jan 09
Liberals are hateful and vindictive by nature and they have never been any other way. Obama has no intention of working with the other party to come to good solutions. It's all smoke and mirrors.
There is so much more to be said about "Blacks in the back". This is the first I had heard of that comment from the Rev. America, including it's leadership, is going to have to decide if yesterday brought an end to racial strife, or has only magnified it. For lot's of reasons, the cement is still wet regarding this historical monument.
djbtol
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
22 Jan 09
Not all liberals, just those who have set themselves up as the arbitors of what it means to be liberal.
@murderistic (2278)
• United States
21 Jan 09
Wow... I wonder how long it will be until there is a civil war between liberals and conservatives. They seem to love to hate each other and dehumanize each other.
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@urbandekay (18278)
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23 Jan 09
"Has there ever been an inauguration speech with more personal shots at the outgoing president than what we witnessed today?"
Has there ever been an outgoing president so deserving of personal shots?
all the best urban
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
24 Jan 09
I have both supported him and opposed him. I know you have a big problem with the meaning of words, but if that is hate in your bigoted, myopic eyes, so be it.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
23 Jan 09
More blather from the Hate the USA in all things peanut gallery.
@urbandekay (18278)
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23 Jan 09
Well ted I may not have been exactly impressed by your acumen but I didn't think of you quite as the 'hate the USA in all things peanut gallery' but then you seem to do a pretty good job of hating the American President so if you want to see your blather in that light, I am happy to let you
all the best urban
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
21 Jan 09
My husband said that when I left this morning and said I did not want to hear the inauguration address, that I was prejudiced and I had something against Obama. I told him I did not care about Obama being black, there was something about him I did not like. It seems that I am right. He is a bit too immature. Even if the president had to be black to placate the white guilters, there were two very good black candidates that one of them could have been persuaded to switch parties, but no they go with this guy.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
21 Jan 09
Sadly, I think that will be a common accusation throughout the Obama administration.
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@Springlady (3986)
• United States
21 Jan 09
Having him as president is scary, but I am soooo glad to know that God is really in control, not him!
We need to pray for our nation more than ever!
I've just read where he is funding for abortions for other countries. So sick and evil! May God help us!
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
21 Jan 09
He just did whatever he could to get the press to play interference for his middle name while he ran for office. Now that he's won, it's ok to use again..
You'd think his middle name was "Rodham" or something :~D
I haven't heard about funding abortions in other countries, I'll have to check that out.
Yes, we need to pray for God to help Obama make the decisions that are best for our country.
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@Springlady (3986)
• United States
21 Jan 09
Wait a minute! Is his middle name really Hussein? I always thought that was a joke! No way! Oh my Lord!!
I know he can't help what his name is, but if it were me, I would do whatever I had to to change it!
@murderistic (2278)
• United States
21 Jan 09
Actually from what I have been told by my professor (I go to a Christian college btw), when Bush came into office he stopped all USAID funding all pre-natal health clinics overseas that supported abortion. The result of this was that abortion overseas actually went up because women weren't able to get the care for their baby during pregnancy because they couldn't afford it. Sometimes it is better to just have faith that women can make the right choice themselves.
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@prettygirl_80650 (306)
• United States
21 Jan 09
Although i dont share your point of view on his speach yes I did see where he poked at the previous president but i think it was a case of telling america what they wanted to hear. I did notice the whole inauguration was themed with blacks starting with Aretha Franklin she has a great voice wow. Then after the swearing in the poet who although her poems word were heard with pride her delivery was not the best one reason i think poets should not read alloud their own poems. fallowed closly behind by the revrend This is the part that really shamed me all the racial slurs he spoke even to be funny should not have been made. The majority of people of the united states have proven we are not racist by voting in a black president. I am still looking forward to the next 4 years because in my opinion fallowing 8 years with bush no one can do worse.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
21 Jan 09
Oh, don't get me started about the emotionless and over-enunciated delivery of the poem!
@irishidid (8687)
• United States
21 Jan 09
I heard something about the ridiculous words of Lowery. Something about yellows being mellow and whites doing right. Maybe he was trying to do an old man rap.
I didn't listen to any of the speech Obama made. I'll probably hear it over and over again no matter how I try to avoid it.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
21 Jan 09
Old man Racist Rap. If a republican had of given that prayer he would have been scewered by the press.
@jonesy123 (3948)
• United States
21 Jan 09
He is still campaigning, he still has to win a second term. I have to agree that the speech was definitely not one of his best. I not necessarily saw it as a shot at the outgoing administration though. It was just more a call to action again as in you people have to do it. If we don't all pull on the same string, we'll fail and can blame those who didn't go along with us, those critics, you know;) In essence, if the Obama administration fails, it's not Obama's fault but the people's fault..
I didn't here Lowery, but if what you said is true, it was out of place, out of date, and in bad taste.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
21 Jan 09
There were a lot of examples of positive calls to action in the speech, and I didn't take every example of shortcomings of the past as a shot against Prs. Bush... just the ones that were definitely against Bush's decisions.
It was unprofessional, uncalled for and a bit childish.
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@murderistic (2278)
• United States
21 Jan 09
At least Obama didn't resort to name calling... talk about class.
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@laglen (19759)
• United States
23 Jan 09
I agree. What bothered me the most were the racial references through everything. Also the poem! Holy crap - I didn't think it would ever end. MLK wanted us to stop seeing in color, so why all of that crap? He is half black, but that is such a small part of him. How about we talk about his qualifications and what he has done and will do. Oh yeah, there really isn't much to talk about there....
@Yestheypayme2dothis (7874)
• United States
24 Jan 09
And Rev. Joseph Lowery said..."when white will embrace what is right"...That is terribly insulting. If Bush would have said something like that about blacks, there would be a race war. But this should not surprise us. All through this campaign there were racist shots here and there aimed at the white man from Obama's people. It did not seem to be a problem for all the white people voting for him. They did not care. It was like they did not get it. And they still don't get it.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
24 Jan 09
Oh, but you forget, only white people can be racist. .. ROFLFOFLRFORLFOFL
@shamsta19 (3224)
• United States
28 Jan 09
Just because Obama is the new president, it doesn't change the fact that Black folks have it bad here in America. Yes this is a great moment in the history of this traditionally white ruled country. It doesn't change the violent treatment that has been incurred by millions of African Americans since the inception of this nation! It doesn't change the fact that we are living in the worst areas and receiving the poorest schooling.
I am not going to campaign for Obama either. I am waiting to see if he really is going to make the great strides toward change that he promised. I already see how he is stirring things up on Capitol Hill. I think he will do fine as President and I wish we'd get past the issue if his color. He is the 44th President of The United States. I hope he does better than the 43rd!
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
28 Jan 09
So why and how exactly is the hard knocks of a Black person's life worse than the hard knocks in anyone else's life? Things are tough all over.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
28 Jan 09
True, but to say they hold a Black person back more than their decisions today are just as ignorant.
Yes, Black people were brought over as slaves, Black people have been abused, misused, folded, spindled and mutilated. I can't even imagine the horror of what it was like to be taken (often by someone they knew and trusted) and sold into slavery.
However, Black people weren't the only ones with horrors hefted upon them. Asians were enslaved by railroads and other industries. It wasn't just people of color either. The Irish were either enslaved or barred from jobs too. (btw, I say "enslaved" to differentiate between treated as slaves and actually being one).
The Mormon Extermination Act was passed in Missouri, making it not only legal to kill and/or rape a Mormon, but it was considered a patriotic act. To this day The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints is the only religion the US Government ever officially declared war on.
I remember in the Army, a lot of Senior NCOs and commanders would "take care of their brothers and sisters". That means they would only promote enlisted people who are Black. I also remember enlisted troops who complained up a storm if they "got stuck with" a senior NCO or commander who was Black but treated everyone the same.
I even knew one guy who put in for a transfer to the platoon that had the hardest job, the worst working conditions, the longest work days and the fewest weekends off. The First Sergeant and Commander continuously denied the transfer, but finally gave in.
It turned out the only reason he wanted to be in our platoon was, we had the only Black Platoon Sergeant. He was sure that the Sergeant would "take care of his brother". Imagine his shock and chagrin when he got into our platoon and learned that our Platoon Sergeant saw us all as people, as parachute riggers, as soldiers, but the only thing our skin color meant to him was in physical discription.
To most of us, that's the way it should be. But too many people insist that skin color doesn't matter, but then somehow make it the only thing that does matter.
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@shamsta19 (3224)
• United States
28 Jan 09
Oh no doubt. We are talking about the history of this nation though. It's not like we live in 1865, or 1965 for that matter. We are still suffering from a lot of the psychological effects of slavery though and as a whole we are still not in the same position of power and wealth as our white counterparts. I am not saying poor and middle class people of every race don't have it bad. I am just referring to the issue of Blacks in America. To say these issues don't exist or to ignore them would just be ignorant.
@Wordplay (239)
• Canada
28 Jan 09
I have to hand it to you, Para. If you wanted a heated discussion on MyLot you couldn't have picked a better topic. I have never seen so many responses that are so vehemently for and against your arguments. There is clearly no middle ground here.
I do agree with one thing you said--that MyLot is an open forum and everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I respect your right to voice that opinion, no matter how much I may disagree. In return, I ask for the same respect.
First of all, your references to Prs. Obama's inaugural speech...were we even listening to the same speech? Yes, yes, I know you quoted the text verbatim in a previous post. You have excellent copy and pasting skills. But your interpretation of the speech was radically different than mine.
Exactly which parts of the speech were parting shots at Bush? The part where he was thanked for his years of service and cooperation with a smooth transition? Bush's name did not come up in any other part of the speech. Yes, there was mention of "greed and irresponsibility on the part of some", but comment was not necessarily specific to Bush or his administration. The current economic crisis is the result of many factors, not the least of which is the greed of CEO's and heads of major corporations that paid large overly-generous bonuses to themselves before laying off thousands of workers and asking the goverment for bailout packages. The fact that you think this comment could be referring to Bush is very telling in itself.
And yes, there were references to the state of the U.S. (and the world) as it stands today. It is true that we are in an economic crisis. Jobs and homes are being lost. We are currently at war. The environment is in danger. You only need to read the newspaper to know that these are facts, not opinions.
For Prs. Obama to avoid mention of any of these issues in his speech would have been foolish, especially for a man who has been elected to a job where he must face these challenges head-on. Mentioning these issues is not laying blame, it is acknowledging them. And stating that he will rise to the challenge is not "campaigning", it is confirming to the American people that he is ready, willing and able to do the job for which he was elected.
For the most part, his speech was a rally cry for all Americans to work together to overcome these current problems. There were historical references, but in the context that Americans have faced hardship before, and can do so again. And yes, one of the challenges he mentioned was segregation. Again, he was stating fact, not voicing opinion--segregation is an ugly part of American history, and one that cannot be ignored. That 60 years ago his own father could not have been served at a local restaurant is very true. But this reference was to emphasize how far the US has progressed in this time, now that a person of colour can stand and take the oath of office.
Sadly, it seems we have not progressed far enough. Reading the posts so far in this thread, it seems that race continues to be an issue with many people, especially those who go out of their way to declare "I am not racist".
Yes, Prs. Obama is black. (Again a statement, not an opinion). But he was not elected into office because of the colour of his skin. He was voted in by a large majority of Americans who feel that he is the right man for the job. Of course the media cannot ignore race altogether, since being the first black US president is an historical achievement in itself. Had Hillary Clinton been elected instead, the focus would have been gender not race. But what will ultimately make or break Prs. Obama is how well he performs in this position.
Para, you can like or dislike the man as you choose. But you will not win my opinion by name-calling, spouting half-truths or failing to back your opinions up with fact. The references to bodily functions? And you claim that Prs. Obama is the one without class.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
30 Jan 09
Yes, this has been an interesting discussion. What is more interesting is the fact that I wrong a longer, more detailed article about what I DID like about his speech.. and got no response whatsoever.
Some of what you bring up here was covered in that article, including the fact he did graciously thank Prs. Bush for his years of service.
@shamsta19 (3224)
• United States
31 Jan 09
Which I thought was a sarcastic shot at the Bush Administration, and a well deserved one at that!