What would be if God did NOT EXIST YET in our mind/belief?
By cornyman
@cornyman (1128)
Germany
January 21, 2009 2:42pm CST
This question is a tricky question for me and i believe for others, too. What did the people in the old times lets say many thousand years before us think about it. They had already something like GOD, too.
A GOD for fire, for rain, for food, for anything they could think of and for anything they could pray for.
In this time there was no Buddha, Jesus or Mohammed available who taught them that there is someone there for us, a goal for our life, a protector, morality rules and so on.
What would happen if someone would suddenly invent in OUR time "GOD" or a "hidden Power in the Universe" (to be more neutral) that guides us and which could be a goal for a life after death?
I'm curious what you think about it.
How would the world look like?
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26 responses
@glords (2614)
• United States
21 Jan 09
I'm sure that if someone invented a path of enlightenment one of two things would happen. They would sell this belief and the religion would grow, or they would find that no one was interested in their beliefs and the religion would die. I think people are inventing new philosophies constantly. New religions are born and die each year.
@cornyman (1128)
• Germany
21 Jan 09
Hello glords,
I think it's just difficult to imagine that there isn't at all something we believed in until now (theoretically spoken).
And now someone is coming to tell us there is something invisible that has created the whole world, the stars, animals, ocean and so on.
Would this fit in our scientific world?
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@tinkerick (1257)
• United States
21 Jan 09
hey cornyman,
you asked if this (having an invisible force running things) fits in our scientific world. This is something that has been debated for as long as the Theory of Evolution has existed. Most people think that if you believe in the Theory of Evolution (or Darwinism) than you do not or cannot believe in God. Actually this is not true. There are many many scientists that believe in BOTH the Theory of Evolution as well as God.
The Big Bang Theory is also still debated. Not sure where most scientists stand on that today.
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@maygodblessu44 (7336)
• India
21 Jan 09
Hello my friend cornyman Ji,
I find little contradiction in your opinion. One side, you agree that, before Budh,Jesus Or Mohammed existed, still tehre was a God, whom people preyed and tahnked for food, also you agree, there were Gods for Fire for rain, for food, why do you go for names in particular, God did exist, but in different Forms. You may find that, Budha was born to someone, who also believed God and Prayed, exactly in similar manners others as well. So there should not be any doubt taht God ever existed. God always existed , who is also responsible of our existance evn now. He is our creator/destryer. We are just dolls in HIS/HER Hands. May God bless all and have a great time
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@savypat (20216)
• United States
26 Jan 09
I guess I don't see any conflict here, big bang or being taht is able to create all. What's to choose between them? Wouldn't a big bang feel just like a supreme being creating everything. Is it a matter of time? The difficulty for me is something created out of nothing, I just can't get my mind around that. Be it big bang or surpreme being, there was something before each creation.
@cornyman (1128)
• Germany
26 Jan 09
Ok savypat,
what would be if we don't know that there is someone called God and suddenly you read the newspaper and there is an article about a source which must have created the universe, stars, earth and anything that lives.
Would you trust this article or belief in the science of the big bang theory (which is also not clear until the last millisecond before it explodes and everything was created)?
@messageme (2821)
• United States
21 Jan 09
God was the creator of man so there was always a god. god came first then man...Unless I'm not understanding the question.
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@cornyman (1128)
• Germany
21 Jan 09
Hello messageme,
you have to think about that god was not thought of until now, today, and there you read something in the newspaper that someone said there was someone who created all this.
I think it would be the same like the Big Bang theory with the creation of our solar system. both is not known if it's correct, if it has happened like this.
@kitttenskysong (676)
• United States
21 Jan 09
being Wicca I believe that there is more than one god and one godess. And the mother of us all is the EArth itself. So even today there are those who beklieve that there are many gods each with their own unique qualifications.
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@onlydia (2808)
• United States
24 Jan 09
They did have a teacher. From what all there things say. Native Americans seen and talked to someone from what some of there old teachings say. But when they prayed for rain it is just a prayer. Just like all of us today. I really don't think any thing would change. You have a good day.
@bamakelly (5191)
• United States
16 Feb 09
That is a good question and up for a lot of controversy. I don't really think that I have pondered this question before. I thought that the idea of God had been around for ages and always was. But I can imagine before the many teachings of different people such as Jesus or Mohammed I imagine that man had different beliefs. Therefore I can't really imagine how to answer this question correctly. There could be so many different viewpoints.
@nuemann (332)
• United States
21 Jan 09
Yeahit is sure a tricky question but whatever anyone would think up now cannot suddenly change the minds of many including myself because the religions of today in one way or the other points to the source and the finite end of life and after life. Am sure they are going to draw from existing ideologies tto make it up and that would only end up helping you understand the essence of the question you are asking there is but one God; Jehova. He has angels that are responsible for many things that happen hence the various gods of rain, fertility, fire and the likes. Mohammed and Jesus are pathways to HIM and so is BUddha and the rest of them. However he didn't exist yet.. we would love nature and ask questions about it which would necessitate HIM revealing himself in the creations of his Power, might and love for us all...unifying our every search to end bhaving him there.
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@mobhomeir (7558)
• Philippines
21 Jan 09
Simple! We would like be an animals, we just die and nothing at all. It would just be enjoying ourselves while still living. Just like " Be merry for tomorrow you will die". Right now, on our time there are lots of people doing that. Those atheists. thanks
@luvandpower (2048)
• United States
22 Jan 09
If I am understanding the question correctly you are referring to how would someone react to someone making a new God? Personally, I would not worship it or anything, it isn't historic, hence, has no true rationality of proof. Others maybe if they thought it would give them an advantage, or just to be in the " in " group .
@moneymaya (901)
• India
22 Jan 09
I think then world would be better then before since then people would believe on their self which is much better then this situation that there is some other person outer where in the world who guide us. On believing our self will increase the confindence people and that way life and world become more better then now
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@ulalume (713)
• United States
22 Jan 09
In a sense, God has always existed. From my perspective god is me, so in my own way I have created god (at least in my mind). I think this has to do with each human viewing the world from a different axis, and everything always seems to surround yourself. So, it is highly possible that a person could "invent" a god (even one such as the one(s) of a religion). With enough manipulation it is possible. A small collaboration of individuals makes these even a higher possibility. Take for example the Bible. It was written by very few individuals. It contains enough in its book that enable people to feel enlightened, empowered, saddened by humanity, and in love with God by the end of it due to what he is said to have done (sending his son and such). Now, examine how easily people latch onto books and films (among other things). Lord of the Rings is a relevant example. It was written by one man, but has been capable of reaching into so many cultures and societies due to how it was written and how it can relate to so many people (and ultimately make them feel good). Now, the Bible and Lord of the Rings are eerily similar in that they both have a built in fan base (that inevitably started with single individuals, then the public gets word of how great it is, causing so many people to fall in love). These both have been adapted (in different forms) into movies, games, video games, and even music. What is the difference? One is said to be a pathway to salvation, while the other is only intended for entertainment (and practically says that is all it is intended for). Now, what if J.R.R Tolkien inserted information in his book that could lead someone to "salvation"? Could Lord of the Rings potentially become a mass religious belief? It would be possible. You may be thinking, "this is absurd", however when you examine how cults function; it is really not that big of a stretch.
@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
22 Jan 09
Might just al lbe better off.
THey always had something to pray too.
Even whe the first man got here .
SOme one decided they needed something to pray for even sacrafises to appeace the gods
The NAvajo's still have thier blessing ways for every thing.
and I sure would like to see one myself.
WE only have got where we are wuith wars and that because some one wants more power or more land. Then they say it is for the religion bunch of bunk they just greedy.
adn I know I will go be with my loved ones wehn I pass from this place on earth.
Just go to the other side that walks next to us but we cant see.
@manleyjoe (1597)
• United States
22 Jan 09
My bible tells me that there have been someone there to tell the people about GOD, and what he wants us to do with our lives, since the beginning of time. God himself spoke to Adam and Eve, then there was Noah, that spoke to the people and told them what God told him. Later there was Abraham then Jesus.
Buddha, Mohammad and other that you can place in the same "basket" were lesser gods and profits of the god Bale whom was a false god in the readings I have seen.
@carinio98 (2929)
• Philippines
22 Jan 09
well if god didnt exist... why we are born and why the solar system exist and the outside world exist... who really created it..... do you think those are only imagination of our clever mind? scientific theory and biblical theory are combined if you research it differ...... big bang theory as what they say as the birth of our solar system yet in biblical term god say let there be light..... that was the birth of our world... god created us millions of years not days.... cuz in our gods term thousand of days are only 1 day for him... he created all living things in just years.
@DoriLentrich (1016)
• United States
22 Jan 09
Your question is a bit confusing. But I guessing you're asking what if someone came up with a new and unique religious belief that developed a strong following. How would that change our perceptions of religion? (I may be totally wrong).
In ancient times, people were far more isolated than they are now. Far more isolated. People believed that the world was only as big as they could walk it. It was easy for disparate religions to develop. Insular communities developed their own faith systems based on the people, geography, etc. However, as trade began, you'll notice that a lot of faiths began to resemble each other. Almost all belief systems had some form of the good/evil dichotomy. There was good in the world, and there was evil. Almost all faith systems had the concept of humanity's fall from grace. The Garden of Eden is not unique in the religions of the world. As humanity developed, so did its faith systems. There are still polytheistic beliefs in the world.
If a new religion were to emerge, it would become one of the many. There would be more debate and probably some physical conflict. For a new Truth to be espoused, it would take a monumental event to convince people that such a thing had validity.
If you're asking, what if we've gotten it wrong all these years, and God is actually something completely different, than no human could really postulate. It would be up to the Creator to dictate to us what terms our lives would now be under. If we've been wrong for millenia, how could we possibly guess what the right answer would be?
@judith1123 (126)
• Philippines
22 Jan 09
religion has been a very sensitive and controversial issue bec until now no religion has proven itself that it is the true religion..well, anyway, i think religion does not really matter, what matters is the belief of people in the existence of God or a Supreme Being. i think, life would not be that meaningful and bearable if we don't have the belief or hope for a Supreme Being to guide. the people from years back created their own beliefs in their desperation to struggle through life. knowing that there is one powerful God ready to help them and provide what they need, it give them hope to continue living their lives.
@gurvinder2006 (9)
• India
22 Jan 09
first of all people will not believe it. God will have to prove himself that He is God.