How far can a woman be independant in a marriage?

@kiran8 (15348)
Mangalore, India
January 24, 2009 11:45am CST
I have often seen many wives having little or no independence in any matter concerning their life. I have a friend who after being married for more than 20 years and having grown up kids has to seek permission to do every little things from her husband.Money when asked for any personal expenses is given sparingly after a lot of discussion and she is allowed to go out after a lengthy argument and lecture and she is given a time of return, even if she is visiting her mother.If she is late in returning home. she is shouted at and humiliated in front of the children and denied certain facilities as a punishment ! One wonders if this happens with other wives as well? Do you think there is any justification to this kind of behavior by one's Husband/partner? Does a man have the right to do this solely because he is the Bread winner? Is it not fair that the wife has some freedom to make her own decisions, i am sure that a wife has enough sense to take everything into consideration before she plans anything- or is this the way of life for many wives? please share your views and experiences if any ..
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@Roseo8 (2947)
• India
25 Jan 09
well Kiran its not easy to draw a hard and fast line differentiating how much a husband and wife must be dependent or independent of each other.Well its best for each couple to work out a convenient arrangement and understanding when it comes to managing the finacial,and all other aspects of the family.They must learn to repect each other and to leave space for independent growth and decisions....Only then can the marriage work out beautifully and they can seta good example for their children too....
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@kiran8 (15348)
• Mangalore, India
25 Jan 09
Thanks for your reply Roseo, i totally agree with your views ! Marriage should help in making people grow together and grow in other ways too. But i have noticed that most marriages do not work that way especially for the women..
@annjilena (5618)
• United States
25 Jan 09
well it a lot of women who have lost there independent espeacially in musilm religion they have no independents at all they have to check with there husband for every little thing.so i say why do they need a brain if this is the case.don,t their husband trust they will make the right decision.
@kiran8 (15348)
• Mangalore, India
25 Jan 09
Hi annjilena, you know this kind of mentality has no religious or any other boundaries.It is the insecure and dominating mentality that is making the men do it.I guess they fear that the wife may become more successful or whatever..
@deebomb (15304)
• United States
25 Jan 09
I think that if a husband truly loves and trusts his wife she will have the freedom you speak of. I also think it depends on the traditions of the country you are speaking about. In my country most every woman has those freedoms. A lot of times the woman handles the finances and so doesn't have to ask for personal expenses. There are a few husbands that like to have control of every thing and can be abusive. In my opinion a wife should have the freedom to come and go as she pleases but should consider the families needs at the same time time. She should not have to ask for money for personal needs. After all if she is taking care of the home she is working just as hard as the husband. A man that act as the husband you described is very insecure and doesn't trust his wife.
@kiran8 (15348)
• Mangalore, India
25 Jan 09
Thanks a lot for your views and i agree with all of it....you are absolutely right in your analysis when you say that the husband i described is very insecure and doesn't trust his wife.
@SHAMRACK (8576)
• India
25 Jan 09
Dear friend, From my place in Kerala a Southern State of India I could see that this Sate is the best in the case of giving women independence compared to any other State of India. Hence it is also seen that more and more divorce and family problems are coming up may be due a change in the society. Still I had also seen many women controlling their home and also husbands here more compared to any other State of India. Moreover I had also seen other side were husbands would do cruelty to their wives too. Moreover this control is hereditary that I had viewed from the past. Control of parents in the independence of their child, control teachers on students, as you suggested control over husbands on wives, may be in some cases control of wives on husbands. Hence I hope control on independence is needed if that control is justifiable for betterment of the family and individual. Other wise I hope it would be much like a slavery.
@kiran8 (15348)
• Mangalore, India
25 Jan 09
Thanks Shamrack for your views. Kerala is a very forward state and people are educated and progressive, but it is a different kind of mind set that is needed for a happy marriage, and i find most men in India lacking in this. We never come to know because it is never discussed and they put on a happy facade because of various reasons ..
@ejohn82 (155)
• India
25 Jan 09
Had your friend earning her own income then maybe the situation may have been different. But I can see one more thing her, she is allowing her husband to take decisions on her behalf, had she been forceful in taking her own decisions then there wouldn't have been control freak husband but her husband seems possessive as well. You won't have a control freak husband unless you allow it. She might have allowed her husband to behave like that to maintain the peace at home. If some husbands are control freak and their wives tries to maintain her independence they there will not be peace at home and the marriage will not last. You have said that they have been married for 20 years, the current generation will not take such a behaviour and they end up in divorce. I am sure it she might have put up with it for her children's sake. I don't think she can change her situation after 20 years of marriage unless her husband has a change of heart. Her husband has taken her for granted. He knows she doesn't have any financial backing so he knows she depends on him completely for everything. Thats why he is behaving in this manner. Husband and wife should have mutual respect and love for each other. The husband loves her no doubt but I doubt he has respect for her or cares for her feelings. It is always good to have financial independence, if by any chance you are planning to leave your job in the near future its best to have some savings so that you don't have to depend on anybody.
@kiran8 (15348)
• Mangalore, India
25 Jan 09
Thanks a lot for your views and you have summed up correctly. She had to put up with him for the sake of her children. She tried taking up a job, but he made such an unpleasant scene saying that he she is going to neglect the house and the children etc etc that she had to give up within a week. She is now seriously thinking of separation, so that she can live in peace..
@henahuda (158)
• Australia
25 Jan 09
i have always been concerned about this issue myself being a women . the plight of woman has still not changed even though people are educated these days. A woman has full right what so ever to do what she wants to and no one has the right to oppose or stop her. Yes she can discuss over a few things with her husband but not take permission because i know women tend to worship the men they marry just because they dont want to disturb their married life and let even their parents suffer. I have also been told by my parents to be strong enough to speak up for my rights and get independent and do a job so that i can sustain myself even if i am alone. I think acceptance in our society is the biggest concern as we know that a single woman is looked down upon which makes woman more weaker. I think that its high time that we first ourselves resurrect ourselves and give ourself respect so that men also respect us equally.
@kiran8 (15348)
• Mangalore, India
25 Jan 09
Thanks for views ! Your parents seem very progressive and very concerned about you. Many parents in India prefer to wash their hands off after a girl is married. If we were to see among the middle class and lower middle class women , their plight is terrible with not much education , no job and no family support..the husbands just do what they want with their wives- abuse them in every way..This is also the case in many so called forward thinking families where men live in a different era altogether..
@palonghorn (5479)
• United States
24 Jan 09
Well to share my view on this.........it can only happen if she puts up with it and allows him the control. Sounds to me like he is a control freak anyway. As for me, I wouldn't put up with that for any time at all. I make my own money, and if I want to spend it on whatever I want, I don't have to ask permission. Even when I was married to my ex, he worked, I stayed home to raise the kids, I didn't have to ask permission to do anything. No, a man does not have that right, even if he is the sole bread winner of the family, he doesn't own her unless she allows it.
@kiran8 (15348)
• Mangalore, India
25 Jan 09
Thanks a lot for your views . I have similar views,but sometimes circumstances and surroundings make a person put up with such atrocities. In the case i mentioned, the lady is from a traditional family where the parents have similar views - that she should obey her husband and do what her husband wants her to do.She has no support from her immediate family and the husband is wary of us friends and tries to keep her from meeting us etc; You are absolutely right in saying that he is 'Control Freak' ..
@cocozhi (80)
• China
25 Jan 09
I thought that the main reason is economy and cial position . When I in university's time , many of my female schoolmate studying very hart . At that time I didn’t understand why . Now I start to understand some reasons . One of a reason is that they want to sharpen their economic capacity and the social position . And they can get a relative equal family status .
@kiran8 (15348)
• Mangalore, India
25 Jan 09
Thanks for your views! I agree that financial independence does give a certain amount of freedom to women. It is essential for every individual to be economically self sufficient so that people are not given a chance to manipulate them..