Why do certain people put all of their energy into bashing religion?
@HeavenUnaware (1757)
United States
January 25, 2009 7:09pm CST
There are a few members of this site who seem to put all of their energy into disproving religion or bashing it to anyone who will listen.
I do not understand how someone can be so unhappy with their own life that they feel the need to try and make others unhappy in theirs.
If I believe in God, am a good person, live my life in a way so that I do not harm or hurt anyone else, do not push my beliefs on you or anyone else.. then why do you (general "you") feel that it is your duty to convince me otherwise?
It seems like a lot of time wasted just to shove YOUR beliefs down other people's throats when that is one of the very things you despise about religious people.
There is one member here who seems to be making a career out of trying to convince people that he is so intelligent when it comes to God.. that he knows that God does not exist and is hell bent on making sure everyone is knocked back into their place below him and his opinion. Honestly, I think he just likes to see himself talk and feels a sense of importance by having other people prop him up like he is a God himself.
I just want to laugh at this old man and his "following".
So tell me, why do you think people do this? Are they lacking something? Are they trying to convince themselves of it as well and by bashing other people's beliefs they are in turn strengthening their own?
I *think* people who do this are missing something from their own lives and in order to feel important or worthy, they lash out at people who are content with God in theirs.
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@denise002 (444)
• Australia
26 Jan 09
i agree with u. i personally dont believe in god or have any religious beliefs. but i, like u, keep it to myself. my opinions are my own and lets face it no one is 100% sure of the truth because its impossible to know. we all have our own beliefs and we are all entitled to them. if someone wants to waste their time bashing other religions and putting people down then i say let it go like water off a ducks back. in one ear out the other. and simple mark his responses as negative or report them as abusive. He clearly has nothing better to do with his time so let him ramble his nonsense. u know what u believe. dont let other people get u down
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@HeavenUnaware (1757)
• United States
26 Jan 09
Aww thanks Denise. He didn't get me down, but the more I stumble upon his postings, the more I realize what his agenda is and it's not to enlighten people to his opinions - it's to try and be as disrespectful and rude as he can be towards people who do believe in God. I'm not angry for myself because I am strong in my faith and a person's words aren't going to change that but I get angry for the people who are maybe new to their faith and this man is trying to tear them apart.
I agree with you completely, none of us know the truth 100% and it would be wise of other people to remember that when they are spouting off as if they are the know all and be all when it comes to the facts of religion and God.
Thank you for your response.
@denise002 (444)
• Australia
26 Jan 09
no problem :]
by the way the reason i was tryin to add u was because i wanted to know how u got the music on ur profile page
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@denise002 (444)
• Australia
26 Jan 09
yeh glad u got the point. lol just kidding. u didnt accept it anyway :P
thanks for ur help
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@Tatsinda (60)
• United States
26 Jan 09
I'm an atheist, and I personally don't do this. I've never actually met an atheist that claimed that he *knew* God didn't exist- that would be a rather arrogant comment in my opinion, but there are extremists for every subject imaginable.
You have to understand that many atheists feel that religion is holding us back as a society - that may be why they are so adamant in their views. Some believe we can not move forward as long as we continue to clutch arcaic views, and that we are easily lead by anything that is spoon-fed to us from birth. I, myself, wonder how many diseases may have been cured by now, had the money that has been donated to churches to pray for the ill, been invested in medical science.
@saffrondreams (596)
• Canada
26 Jan 09
Yes, that's a good point, especially when so many of these "religious" people hold a lot of power and influence and can affect legislation.
@Chiang_Mai_boy (3882)
• Thailand
26 Jan 09
A free and open discussion of religion is never bad. There are those who feel that religion represents a grave danger to a civil society and there is nothing wrong with expressing that thought.
It is true that much of what passes for religion in today's world is based on superstition and myth or stories hijacked from earlier beliefs. I find discussions that explore this to be quit interesting.
The history and evolution of belief is something that anyone who is religious should investigate.
The discussions that you are bashing are informative and thought provoking. Mylot is a richer place for them.
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@Chiang_Mai_boy (3882)
• Thailand
26 Jan 09
I would have to agree with you as to the description you gave. That type of discussion is fruitless and is nothing I would consider as having any value.
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@HeavenUnaware (1757)
• United States
26 Jan 09
Thanks, I'm glad we agree. Hey, cool avatar! I love the ying-yang sign
@HeavenUnaware (1757)
• United States
26 Jan 09
I completely agree that a free and OPEN discussion about religion is never a bad thing but the discussions I'm referring to are anything but open and free. They are more like a lynching with words against anyone who does not believe the same way as the author and I'm sorry but I do not believe Mylot or any other discussion forum is a richer place because of narrow-minded, ignorant people who aren't open to being respectful towards EVERYONE - whether they agree with their beliefs or not, there is a way to discuss them without attacking those who view from the other side.
I'm not sure how a discussion that goes something like this (for general purposes - an example only):
Original poster: God is a joke. God does not exist. God is nothing but evil.
Other posters: I disagree and you do not know if God exists or doesn't.
Original poster: You're stupid. If you believe in God, you are an idiot. You are brainwashed into thinking there is a God. Blah blah blah
Other posters: You have the right to believe what you want but please don't tell me what I can or cannot believe.
Original Poster: You religious freaks don't have a clue about God. God doesn't exist.
Other posters: Whatever.
How in the world is THAT kind of discussion "informative or thought provoking"?
Hey, whatever floats your boat. I tend to find discussions where people are actually having a productive respectful dialog between them (agreeing or disagreeing) to be a little more thought provoking and informative. That's just me though.
@Rozie37 (15499)
• Turkmenistan
26 Jan 09
You are absolutely right, they are missing something from their life, God. He is the only one that can remove the misery that comes from living a life devoted to serving the devil. He is the one behind these people behaving like this. When I first started on Mylot, I would debate with these people. I quickly realized that they were not being affected by it and I was wasting my time.
Now, I don't bother them and appreciate it when they do not bother me. Another thing that I did was stop accepting them as friend's on here or anywhere else in my life. I will talk casually, but keep them at a distance, I do not want the devil to get to me threw my friend's.
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@HeavenUnaware (1757)
• United States
26 Jan 09
Rozie.. those of us with a brain knew what you meant. Don't sweat it.
@Cryptid (72)
• United States
26 Jan 09
A lot of it is due to bad experiences with overly religious individuals who may preach frequently or may have done negative things and said it was done in the name of religion.In fact, many great atrocities committed in history were committed in the name of religion or spiritual beliefs.Some people are ignorant enough to believe that all religion is then evil due to the actions of one or a few people but the truth is con people and distasteful people come from all walks of life period.
Others are fearful and ignorant in general.Though they may bash religion for a variety of reasons it often boils down to a negative experience in one form or another.
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@lisa0502 (1724)
• Canada
26 Jan 09
I am not quite sure why people do this. It might be that they are unsure of how they are living and what they believe. I am not of any certain religion. But I do believe that there is a God. I am not one to push my beliefs on anyone. I think that every person has a right as to what they believe and they should not try to convince anyone of otherwise. I do think that you are on the right track with as to why people do this though.
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@balasri (26537)
• India
26 Jan 09
They get angry with the atrocities committed in the name of religion.It makes a scar in their mind and they start lambasting the perpetrators.As time goes by they already have begun quite used to it and do it at regular intervals.Well not everyone can be a mute spectator to the agonies in the name of religion."Spread a smile"
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@panzerswifey (314)
• United States
26 Jan 09
This I believe in all religions and trust me fanatics call me crazy,say
I can not be more than one religion,blah blah blah!
Who says I can not respect and love all religions and it's people?
The only thing I would shove down anyones throught is respect,love and tolerance.
How can you be secure in your own religion if you have to bash people.
I rather believe in all religions andget respect from persons of all religions,backgrounds and culture
than bash people and get no respect.
Just My Stinking Opinion though!
@gjabaigar (2200)
• Philippines
26 Jan 09
^_^ Howdy!.... HeavenUnaware!....
Nah!.... Don't mind their bashing or insulting others belief. They are just like the fox who fails to get the grape then bashing and insulting "its a sour grape anyway".
Yeah, you are right HeavenUnware they are truly lacking something they are lack of self judgment and understanding. Because through out their entire life they are looking, knowing, searching and seeking on how to make a believer be a miserably on their own faith or what they truly believed is true. Instead of looking, knowing, searching and seeking why these believers truly believed on their own faith of truths. And these people has no really truly happiness on their own life and in that way they don't want others and everybody to be happy in life also.
^_^ Enjoy!....
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@kiran8 (15348)
• Mangalore, India
26 Jan 09
I personally do not believe either in 'God' as it is depicted now nor do i believe in Religion.According to what i have perceived both these are social institutions that came into being to regulate human behavior. Man is the most selfish and cruel animal and he needs regulating and i feel that in the pre historic days when there was no religion and god did not have so many forms it did help them come to terms with many calamities and natural disasters. But as man became more civilised Religion and God have taken a new meaning altogether and it is creating problems and dividing people. If someone were to put their points forward we should welcome it. At the same time it is very necessary for everyone to dispassionately analyse the negative points in their own religion/s and accept it. After all no Religion is perfect! once we do that automatically we respect each other more - strictly my feelings
@murderistic (2278)
• United States
26 Jan 09
I honestly think it's disgusting. And it's not only atheists who do it, Christians do it to Islam, Muslims do it to Christians, all are capable of doing it. I think insulting someone's faith is one of the worst and inhumane things someone can do. My faith defines me. Insult something that doesn't define me, I don't care. Just don't insult my or anyone else's faith.
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@romeo2103 (41)
• India
26 Jan 09
heavenunaware! what a beautiful word! if we love the things we can find the heaven everywhere. we can see the god too.
@saffrondreams (596)
• Canada
27 Jan 09
I'm a non-believer and I have never tried to push my views onto others. If your beliefs give you a sense of fulfillment and psychological well being, then who am I to take that away from you?
I think a lot of people who actively bash religion do so for the same reasons as those who feel the compulsion to impose their beliefs and morality onto everyone else. They think that they are smarter and better than everyone else, and that they have the right to broadcast their beliefs everywhere and shove it down everyone else's throats. Because hey, they're right and merely trying to educate the unenlightened. There is also the satisfaction of winning a debate against someone who has a different opinion than yourself because it feeds into that egomania by reaffirming the superiority of your position.
I'd like to also point out that Christianity doesn't exactly have the best public image right now. Every group has its extremists, but unfortunately they also tend to be the most vocal group (the Phelpses come to mind). So Christians get stereotyped as being Pharisaical, backwards, judgmental, and narrow-minded when in reality, most of them turn out to be pretty decent, reasonable people.
There's also the fact that some of the extremely religious have a lot of power and money, and therefore their beliefs hold sway in the political arena. They hold powerful political positions and can therefore influence legislative policy. So understandably, many non-believers see religion as a threat to social and scientific progress. A lot of diseases and disabilities might be cured by now if it were not for the restrictions on stem cell research. Billions of tax dollars would not have been funneled into abstinence-only programs despite study after study disproving its effectiveness if it were not for the moral and religious sensibilities of the few on top. Gay people couldn't get marry who they wanted to because some people consider their "lifestyle" immoral. And so on.
I know that most Christians and other religious people are not like that, but that is the impression that many non-believers get.
@bamrahkirti (1821)
• India
26 Jan 09
Dear religion is something which we should not argue about but we can discuss it in healthy and positive manner.
If his man is boasting about his knowledge about God then he must have his reasons to do so.Do not bother about such persons and try to gain something positive from their vast "vocabulary".
We should never ever impose our religion onto others and every person has his own style and ways to reaching out to God.We should see how fairly we do to go near the Almighty.