My life.....A request from TheGreatWhite....
@messageme (2821)
United States
January 26, 2009 12:51am CST
I'm going to go in detail like you asked. So if it gets to long, sorry. Once I get to talking I can go! If I leave anything out let me know.
My life before this relationship...I was a single mother of two, 1yr old and 4 yr old. I worked full time and went to school full time. I am a very loving and devoted mother. My kids always come first. My kids, Well, I should say the 4yr old, because the one year old didn't do much yet at this time. My 4 yr old, was a very loving and caring child. Much respect and very mature for his age. He cared for his mother and showed it in every way. Very calm child, with his spurts of hyperness every now and then. Listened to everything and always did as he was told. He was helpful in every way you could think.
While at work one day a guy comes and askes me for my phone number. We start talking and things are going great! I would go over to his place a lot to see him and his kids. His place was always clean. we always had a smile on our faces. Our kids loved to play with each other. Kids always wanted to have the other spend the night so then we started to. Then it turned into an everyday thing. After a while we talked about moving in with each other and eventually did. We had only been together a few months before we did this. He rented a small three bedroom trailer and I owned a Large three bedroom house. I couldn't really just get rid of mine considering I just bought it right before I met him so we ended up moving into my house. His kids at this time were 3, 4 and 6. The rooms in my house are extremely huge so we had no problem fitting 3 in one room and there was still plenty of space. From that time till now it all seems a blur. I don't remember what the kids were like I don't remember when we started having problems, if it was right away and increasingly got worse or if it was later on. I just don't remember. That could be the problem we don't know where we went wrong.
By this time I was becoming the manager at where I worked so I had to stop schooling. Was at work from morning till night. That only lasted a couple of months because I never got to see my kids and I felt like I was leaving them with someone I hadn't known but a few months, plus the fact that I had found out I was pregnant and the stresses that came with my job I couldn't take.
So here I am a stay at home mom of 6 kids. He works third shift, which really put a damper on our relationship after so long. He'd work 3rd, come home, bring the kids to school and sleep during the day. While I stay home do the cooking, cleaning, running one of the kids to school (half day preschool), picking all the kids up, starting homework and then dad gets up. He is with us from about 4 pm most days till the kids go to bed at 8pm. Then it is our time to spend with each other, plus the baby is still up. at 11 pm he goes to work and I go to bed all by myself. The reason it put a damper on our relationship is because I felt like I was doing all the work by myself and then he was there for a couple of hours to visit and then I went to bed. I felt like I was a single mother all over again just this time with 6 kids. it is very lonely going to bed by yourself every night but knowing you are in a relationship. Earlier I said how whenever I went to his house it was always cleaned, well here he don't help with most of it. I know I am home all the time I can do it, but that is alot of laundry, alot of dishes, alot of toys! I get tired of doing it all. I feel like I am rambling and not giving you much.
One of my days...
The kids get up, get ready for school. Dad comes home and takes them to school. One rides a bus to a different school (headstart) Dad goes to bed. I am home with the baby ( well not quite a baby anymore, he is one now and into everything!) and then the 5 yr old. He will eat breakfast watch tv or play around downstairs. The second i would ask him to pick up something or do something. He would throw a fit "I didn't have it" or "why do I always have to do it". "I want to watch tv!" He is one that is constantly hyper to so all day long till he goes to school at 12:30 he is making noises or being extremely loud! None stop. So 12:30 he goes to school. I have peace til 1:30 then I get my 3 yr old off the bus. He gets home, give him a snack and then he goes and plays quietly upstairs or he will color or he will ask me to read him a book, still quiet and peaceful....3:30 I get the other kids from school. The second they get in the vehicle (everyday without failure) they start fighting or horsing around being extremely loud! I know it drives me nuts at that instant because it goes from complete silence to you can't even hear yourself think. We get home and more fighting or complaining about the other or someone hit someone. This is an every single day thing. I have told them over and over you be nice to others. I have put them in time out for hitting. I have repeated myself over and over and it doesn't faze them. While the older two 8 and 6 are doing their reading the others are running and horsing and being extremely loud. I tell them to go play with their toys for a while, they don't. They will not go upstairs and play with their toys unless we force them to go upstairs. (force meaning we don't give them a choice). Dad usually gets up about this time. I usually am frustrated by the loudness and the meanness orthe attitudes by this time and hand it over to him. They want to tattle I tell them to tell dad. He has come a long way with telling them to stop or watching their volume but I don't think their is much help. The kids no right from wrong and they still choose to do wrong.
We try to keep them busy so they don't drive us nuts because if we don't give them something to do they are horsing around, running, fighting, jumping on furniture, everything! They do have chorse to do everyday. They have homework.
Remember how I said how my 4yr old use to act. He is now 6 and he is nothing like that anymore. He acts just like the others. Very immature for their age. Don't listen, acts like he don't care about anything. Not helpful anymore, usually hyper along with the others. I don't know where we went wrong. I can't take it anymore. I put most of the blame on his kids for the way mine acts now and it hurts when I say that to him, but I say it when I am so frustrated and don't think before I speak.
I hope this is what you were wanting. I know I have typed alot, but I don't know if it gives you anything to go with.
I have even suggested me getting a second shift job, so I could have a break for a little bit. His reply to that was then you would never see your kids because during the day they are at school and at night I would be gone. He said he would never do that. I don't want to but I think it would be a good break. He don't want me too.
I think what also bugs me is, I am a clean person. I don't like clutter, I take pride im my personal hygiene and I have tried to teach the kids about their hygiene and they would care less. His 8 and 5 yr old half the time won't wipe their butts and will keep their underwear on for days. I found out that their mother still wipes their butts!! 8 and 5!! Umm shouldn't they be doing this on their own? So that grosses me out and I have tried solving that problem with baby wipes in the bathroom, tried showing them how to do it, they don't care, it's too much work for them. Which in turn makes me not want to do their laundry. I grosses me out! They don't want to take showers. To me this is all gross!
They don't have much for common sense, which drives me nuts. They may know to do something but won't do it. I asked why and I always get the same answer "because no one told me too" Common sense! You know to do it so do it.
The picture is of us. the little one in front of the girl is mine and the boy in the blue tank top is mine the others are his. baby was only a couple months old at that time so he didn't go on vacation with us. We all look happy, don't we. That weekend was not a vacation at all!! The kids would not listen what so ever!! Even in the hotel they fought and jumped on beds and ran all over! I was miserable! Most kids you ask them to quiet down or stop jumping and they do it, maybe have to tell them a couple times but eventually stop. Not ours we have to say it over and over and over and they still don't listen so then we put them in time out when they get up they go right back to it.
See why I always feel like I am yelling all the time and repeating myself all the time. I am drained and I don't feel much for those kids anymore.
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4 responses
@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
26 Jan 09
i hope my answer doesn't make you mad but here goes. first of all u have lost all control over all the kids. the first thing that needs done is a good a$$ whipping to show them who the boss is aroung there. that should get their attention. then you & their dad needs to sit down w/them & tell them how it's going to be & stick by that no matter what. that is ridiculous y'all have let it come to this. easier i'm sure than taking time to make them mind.
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@messageme (2821)
• United States
26 Jan 09
I don't get mad at anyones answers, we all have our own point of views. I agree it is ridiculous it has gotten to this point, but I will say it's not like we haven't tried different things. We tried family meetings, points system, right now we are doing a super star system and they get rewards for all their good deeds and behaviors and when all of them achieve thier goals for the week they get a really big prize. they were interested in it the first week now they really don't care. I think it is because even though they want their prize they don't want to work for it, they just want us to give it to them and we won't so they stopped trying to get all their stars. So yes it has gotten really bad, but we are trying everything we can think of to prevent it but it hasn't done any good.
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@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
26 Jan 09
i hope u find something that works.
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@TheGreatWhiteBuffalo (4822)
• United States
26 Jan 09
Thank You,
Your situation has a lot more in common with my own than I thought.
I'm talking about biological mothers not you (messageme). The mother that allows the children to do what ever to the point that the mother needs to medicate the children to keep control or keep the children in control... I think the mother needs the medication, did I just say that?
I know you are a biological mother of 3. Two of yours and one of you and him...
How to get you some peace in your house? I am now thinking...
I'll sleep on it and see what I think of... Maybe something maybe nothing...
You really need your energy back and I hope that we can brainstorm with a great idea, something that you haven't tried yet, and I know you are a smart lady so this is not going to be an easy fete...
Hang in there...
I used to help with child care for the church that I was excommunicated from and I feel that my children were angels and they were not because I put strange demands upon them but because we were working and growing together as a family until the day that I was taken away from my duties as a parent and I got involved with the court system. I had to choose between parenting or allowing my name to be defiled either way the choice was a lose - lose situation. I still watched my children and their behavior until the court system ended me up in the psyche ward then all bets were off... The biological mother had drawn blood and I was bleeding and dying as a parent, I lost all support from her and her respect that then translated into the children not having respect for me.
Your problem might very well be not the children but a toxic ex-spouse of your husband. If she is poisoning the minds of the children then that might be the place that you need to work on, and in so doing you also know of several things that you have to do with the children.
You need to make them take care of their personal hygiene. Don't be shy, you have big rooms, so you are going to have to make one room a childproof room and put all of the children into that room, when one has to go to the bathroom you have to go to the bathroom and make sure that the child learns to do his functions for him/her self. You are going to have to train the children to behave. In the car you are going to have to be even more assertive but the one thing you have to do is to stop fighting all of this yourself.
I hate to say this but you have to let the children yell and you should not yell at the children. In fact the more quiet your voice the more quiet the children will be... And something else find something that they really like, something sweet, a reward for good behavior, make sure the bad ones see the reward but only give the reward to the good ones. One other thing is physical touch, hugs and kisses, give them baths or showers and then give them hugs and kisses they are the best rewards.
Find the good rewards for the good behaviors, soon others will want what they are missing.
Love,
OX
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@TheGreatWhiteBuffalo (4822)
• United States
27 Jan 09
Okay'
You have a house full of children, you're frazzled he is working nights, you have an education but his job is better than if you were working so the children are the issue and yet you're alone at nights.
He is exhausted the new work schedule has your biorhythms out of whack and the task at hand is daunting to say the least, he runs children and you pick them up and in the middle there is this huge responsibility.
The laundry cycle is overwhelming and the children are not behaving while you are trying to get caught up let alone making meals for this little army. There is no family support network the load is all upon the two of you and you're the one that wants the neat house clean and tidy and it was your doing that his house was clean?
Your children were well behaved you added three and they are all under the age of 10 along with one more.
You love each other so you all want the best for one and the other and the children involved. Everyone is vying for attention, bad attention is better than no attention.
You've tried rewards the carrots and
Some punishments the sticks...
You've separated the children at specific times of the day, for the purposes of homework and that while preparing meals, gotta love the school system where the children can not learn enough during classes they need mom and dad to help teach the children... You don't already have enough on your plate...
The children need to learn specific skills, separating them each to their own base allows the chatter to diminish and the ones that are always yelling and screaming... Oh' I can tolerate a little of that but not a constant barrage of that so what do we first do? We learn to use our indoor voices when indoors. Escalation of fighting and yelling will result in a mediator setting the children straight. One to one area of the house and the other to the other there will be no fighting.
Use your tears, I'm sure that you have in front of the children they have seen that they have made you cry. They have no empathy???
Your own children?
Find the child with empathy, sit in the room crying and see who comes up to you to console you... This is the child that you can reach out to the rest with...
Build on a bond of love and trust, allow that child to hug you and console you and then work with that child in seeing if they can help you make the house quieter and cleaner...
Use the truth to win them over...
Separate the trouble makers...
The wheat is nutritious while the chaff is only fiber that blows away...
Teaching love is easier than repairing or curing the consequences where prevention is a lot cheaper.
Don't let the little things go... They grow into big problems...
Cliche' I know... But true
I'm still grasping, and trying...
Good Luck,
Sincerely,
Gary
OX
You're a special lady and he is a special guy, keep trying...
The answer is right there inside each of you... You'll find it, I'm sure...
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@messageme (2821)
• United States
26 Jan 09
She is a poison! I could go on for days about her, but I would only be wasting my time. She is one that no matter what you say to her she will never change! Sounds like you have also had it rough! I feel for you. I greatly appreciate you taking your time and trying to help me, it truely means a lot to me!
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@messageme (2821)
• United States
27 Jan 09
No he wasn't working third shift then. He actually wasn't working at all he had just gotten fired from his job. When I asked him why his house was so clean then and now he don't help he says its because he got so use to me doing it that he don't think about it.
It is a very difficult situation and a big life altering for the kids if we do decide to split. So far we are both tossed. I have read most of the replies to him and he still is leanin towards splittig and I am stuck right in the middle. I am just scared of making the wrong choice.
We have been very consistent with the kids, which is always a key, but for some reasons it does not help the situation.
I appreciate the help. Thank you
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@reddy_pavan70 (22)
• India
26 Jan 09
what is this i am not understanding this topic pleas tell me what is this and how to give answer
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@messageme (2821)
• United States
26 Jan 09
You would have to read my discussion about splitting up. I didn't give enough detail in that one so this one is the detail they requested.
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@TheGreatWhiteBuffalo (4822)
• United States
26 Jan 09
This is a testimony and you have to first read it and understand it to then answer it if you have any good thoughts to help out.
Take your time it is not a test, and you don't have to do all the reading at this time you can do it when you have a moment of free time in the near future.
Maybe you have nothing to add, then so be it...
I'm sure that the OP (Original poster will be appreciative of your taking the time to explore her autobiography...)
Peace and Blessings to you...
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