Obama's stimulus package passes ,but no republican vote ,Is this good or bad ?
By ronnyb
@ronnyb (6113)
Jamaica
January 28, 2009 7:15pm CST
Should they have continued to the dialogue until both republican and democrats see eye to eye ?Or was this the moment of decision when action rather than partisan politics were necessary ?.Is this an indication of what is to come in terms of democrats making all the pertinent decisions and the republicans voting en-block ?
Should we laud the decisiveness of democrats or unilateralism of the democrats. Recent news suggests that the republicans were whipped into shaped by republican house leader
I cant help but wonder how the republicans will feel if this package works they could be seriously damaging their chances of reelection but then that is just my view.
What are your views on this issue or is it too early to tell ?
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12 responses
@Benjaminna (300)
• United States
29 Jan 09
I am thrilled that no republicans voted for it.
I don't see anything in the 'stimulus' package that is going to stimulate the economy. All I see is a bunch of tax payer money thrown out their as a pay back to all those who contributed money for the Obama campaign. There is NOTHING in there that is going to fix anything, in my eyes.
So, with that said, I don't see how it will be successful - therefore no damage done. One thing I do feel successful is that as so far it seems our republican leaders are on the same track for once.
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@snowcat46 (2322)
• United States
29 Jan 09
There is a time to act. Sitting on one's hands while the country falls apart isn't acceptable. If they didn't like the package, why didn't they come up with another plan? The more plans there are, the more chances of success. Just sitting around arguing isn't helping anyone.
@alindahaw (1219)
• Philippines
29 Jan 09
They did try to come up with another package but the problem is that the Democrats will have none of the things that the Republicans wanted. It is all over the news. None of the changes that the Republican proposed were taken into consideration and put into the package. Well, I guess the honeymoon is official over and these politicians are going after each other's throat now. The sad part is that as you have mentioned, all this arguments will not help anyone.
@laglen (19759)
• United States
29 Jan 09
I really don't think that Republicans have anything to worry about. Not to mention that they are voting the way their constituents feel. History tells us this will not work. I don't understand where giving money to medicaid, non-profits and planned parenthood will help me keep my house.
@anniepa (27955)
• United States
29 Jan 09
From what I've been hearing it's bad on the Democrats' part but worse on the Republicans' part. The House Democrats didn't really give Obama what he'd asked for, or at least not what we all thought he was going to ask for with that being infrastructure spending. They stuck some pork in it, some of which they took back out, but they still didn't put in enough for rebuilding our infrastructure which is what we need and what will create jobs. They and Obama caved in to the GOP by putting so many tax cuts in the bill despite most economists saying they won't stimulate the economy but still not a single Republican voted for it. I guess they wanted to show the country they're afraid to go against Rush Limbaugh! I think Obama is truly trying to work with both parties and to avoid the partisanship of the past few years but it takes more than just him to make that happen.
Annie
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
29 Jan 09
"They and Obama caved in to the GOP by putting so many tax cuts in the bill despite most economists saying they won't stimulate the economy but still not a single Republican voted for it."
Those tax cuts weren't there for the republicans. That's liberal spin. Obama PROMISED those tax cuts to voters during his campaign. Tell me you didn't forget his promises. Suddenly he's only keeping his promises to satiate republicans. Only about 30% of that bill had anything that could potentially stimulate the economy. The rest was garbage like funding climate change research, and an endowment for the arts.
@coffeebreak (17798)
• United States
29 Jan 09
Don't really matter who agrees or not... for us "main street" folk, all we will see out of it is $500-$1000 this year, trickled out over a couple months on paychecks at $80 per month as they adjust the taxes taken out of our paychecks. THe rest, yeah, nice and all, but it will be years before we see any help to the economy as a result. Infastructure work is all fine and well, but it'll take probably the rest of this year to get it all going enough to hire some people to get it all going and I have been in constrctuion for 30 years...there will be some employment, but not what they say
@BlueGoblin (1829)
• United States
29 Jan 09
Obama is always talking about this stimulant package. Can you tell he is a smoker?
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
29 Jan 09
I was thrilled to hear that not a single republican voted for it. It's not a stimulus package at all. It's the single biggest pork package ever passed in the house. Look at a breakdown of it and you'll see that very little of it has any potential to stimulate the economy. They got out the birth control money, but there are still billions in there going to ACORN, climate change research, and other crap that will do NOTHING for the economy. Oh, we need more cars for government employees too. That's important to stimulate the economy.
I actually said earlier this week that that's what republicans should do, so I like seeing my advice taken. Voters need to know who's looking out for them and republicans need to show that they won't take this one party rulership lying down.
@sierras236 (2739)
• United States
29 Jan 09
I am glad they didn't vote for it. Everyone is starting see what this stimulus package for what it really is more spending on government programs with no real change. Even if the Senate does change it the bill it still has to go back to the house for approval. The word about this waste is coming out loud and clear. It is time that Congress started again listening to the people that put them there.
This has no change of stimulating our economy but has every single chance of putting our grandchildren and great grandchildren in debt. Something has to give and it should not be the taxpayer.
@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
29 Jan 09
i doubt they'll ever see eye to eye. republicans are too hardheaded, lol. i really don't understand enough about it to talk about it. i do think obama is trying to get things straightened out. he could use everyone's support i'm sure even the republicans.
@jonesy123 (3948)
• United States
29 Jan 09
It's my understanding that there'll be changes done to this package in the Senate. It's supposed to be a bi-partisan approach there. My guess is it's been pushed through in order to get the changes done there and the Republicans voted against it to make a statement.
I don't think the Republicans have to worry about this during the next election. This package has so many things in there that aren't stimulus related and is simply well wrapped pork, there is hardly a chance for it to really work in time for the next election, not in two years, not in four years. There is simply not enough that will be done. Take a closer look at how many $$ are allotted to what and you'll see what I mean.
IMO the boat to really stimulate the economy has been missed when they messed up the financial bailout package handing out the money to the banks without any safeguards that it will really be spent on what it was intended for. Now the banks sit on the money.
The way things have been handled so far by the Democrats (and keep in mind that although we had a Republican President they Democrats were pretty much in charge for the last two years), it's probably a wise decision for the Republicans to let their disapproval known and not go about this all agreeing and not complaining. The package will be approved but they can wash their hand off it, if necessary, or claim that ultimately they gave in seeing that it would work, if it contrary to expectations should work out. The Democrats have something to lose steamrolling this through so quickly. If it fails they'll have a lot of explaining to do and unfortunately, no, they cannot blame the Republicans for being cynical. It's not like they really held up the process much. The package, even if it would be completely approved today, would not be expected to take effect before sometime before spring anyway.
Ultimately it's a little political dance they are all performing. Business as usual in D.C.;)
@Barb42 (4214)
• United States
29 Jan 09
I'm glad to hear it did pass without a Republican voting. When it fails, and it is going to fail, they can't blame the Republicans. OH, I forget; they can blame them for not telling them NOT to vote for it. This stimulus package is a sham. There is no stimulus in it at all! If you could hear what it's all going for, it would astound you!