submissive wife

Philippines
February 5, 2009 8:41am CST
From Ephesians 5:22-24 of the Holy Bible (NIV), it says: "Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.
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@Ravenladyj (22902)
• United States
5 Feb 09
maybe 60 yrs ago that would have been acceptable and was the way but its 2009 and women arent suppressed anymore...We are strong, self thinking and quite able...If one CHOOSES to be totally submissive thats up to them but to be honest with you I find it shameful not just on her part but the husbands too..
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@savak03 (6684)
• United States
13 May 09
Being in subjection does not mean being a doormat or putting up with abuse. No where in the Bible does it state that women are to be treated as second class citizens. If you read more in that chapter of Ephesians counsel is also given to the husband to love and cherish his wife. If a husband and wife take this advice to heart and apply it in their marriage they will have a successful and happy relationship.
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• Philippines
7 Jul 09
I say, savak here has stated her opinion better than i can ever explain. Thanks for giving yours, ravenlady. We do have different choices. It's not easy to be submissive but when it's done in love and in reverence to God we can do it and i don't think it is shameful.
• United States
5 Feb 09
This is an issue I feel that is the right thing to do. But we are not property of a man. He should nuture us and take care of us as well as us being submistive. I know I spelled that wrong but yes I would say I agree with this. But some people feel that this is not right, but you know I have a right to my opnion as well as someone else does, right? Welcome to mylot and I hope you enjoy yourself here. Have a good day online as well.
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@savak03 (6684)
• United States
13 May 09
Differing opinions is what makes mylot so great. If we all thought alike whatever would we have to discuss?
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• Philippines
7 Jul 09
This was supposed to be my very first discussion on the very day i signed up but it was not even a discussion because i left all of you here hanging! You welcomed me and i did not even show my appreciation! I got hooked responding to posts that were more interesting than what i started that i just forgot to do and resolve what a discussion poster was supposed to do! Oh, shame on me! I did not have so many mylot friends then and i never asked anybody to help and guide me through here! I wasted a lot of time by not even asking you to be my friend! I am sorry, momtrying2makeit... could we be friends now? Thanks for responding and please accept my apology. Also, thanks to you, savak!
• Canada
6 Feb 09
i definatly dont and wont submit to my husband. that was the thing many moons ago but for some man to tell me what to do or thinking i should worship him? LOL. what a crock that is. NEVER. I have a daughter and i will raise her to NEVER be submissive towards her husband that ridiculous.
@Ravenladyj (22902)
• United States
6 Feb 09
I have a daughter and i will raise her to NEVER be submissive towards her husband that ridiculous. LOL yea I'm the same way with my daughter...I raising her to be a strong independant young lady NOT to be some guy (or girls) doormat... [i]He who loves his wife loves himself.[/] Actually thats a backwards way of thinking....If one can't love themselves FIRST they can never truly love anyone else whether its their spouse, child, parents etc etc. you dont love others THEN love yourself.. After all, no one ever hated his own body, but he feeds and cares for it I know several ppl who truly do hate their bodies and DON'T care for it, feed it etc...i was one a few times in my life (anorexic as a young teen then bulimic later on in life)...there are ppl in the world who hate their bodies SO intensely (body dismorphia I think its called) they do very violent things to themselves
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• Philippines
6 Feb 09
How about if we complete the passage? I wonder what the husbands say about their wives... Ephesians 5:25-33 says "Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her to make her holy, cleansing her by the washing with water through the word, and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless. In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. After all, no one ever hated his own body, but he feeds and cares for it, just as Christ does the church--for we are members of his body. "For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh."...However each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband.
@jbosari (155)
• United States
6 Feb 09
Don't even go there with me! If I submitted to my husband in all things, we would be homeless. He is full of great ideas, but not so good at getting the details straight before he tries things. My husband is a wonderful, good and kind person, but if I submitted to him all the time, it just would not work. I would have left him long ago, because I would be better off on my own. I have to keep my children fed and cannot rely on him for that. My marriage is a team effort. He helps with some of the household things and I help with some of the manly-type repair jobs. My kids know that they cannot ask mom for one thing, then go ask dad if she says no. We are a united front. This is a very emotional issue for me because if I had to submit to my husband in all things, I would be an irresponsible mother to stay with him. I love my husband dearly and would not give him up for anything!
@savak03 (6684)
• United States
13 May 09
Unfortunately, not all men are equipped to lead and sometimes the wife is more capable at making business decisions. My husband lacked this ability as well but he recognized this and delegated or shared, if you will, this responsibility with me. We, too had a partnership that worked well for us and we presented a united front for our kids. This is an important thing that many parents don't follow up on.
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• Philippines
6 Feb 09
In today's times of liberated and empowered women, society dictates that women should demand equal rights with men and that is correct. I believe a wife's submission to her husband is not degrading or demeaning at all as some may think but it is a way of demonstrating her obedience to God's design or standards. Submitting to her husband is submitting to the Lord as long as the husband also submits himself to the Lord.
• Philippines
14 Feb 09
I agree with what the bible says, but this does not work to other.
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• Philippines
14 Feb 09
Many women (even men) do not agree with this passage from the Bible but praise God i have a mature christian husband who never gave me a reason to oppose his views/decisions because we talk, listen, discuss things and consider each other's opinion on anything that involves our relationship as husband and wife. Thanks to all of you who responded to this discussion. May you all feel the same joy that i have that only comes from God...
• Canada
7 Jun 10
Not a chance. I am my own person, and he is his own person. I once had a man who had authority over me in my life, named DAD! lol Dad's still a part of my life, but I am an adult, and he's not in authority over me. To submit to my husband would be putting him in Dad's place over me as a child, and having marital relations with such a man would equal incest!!!! No way! Husbands should not be parents.
• United States
5 Feb 09
Yes it says to submit to your husband. Which I believe is correct, however too many people over look a couple other things said nearby in the Bible. 1. Actually in that passage it says to submit "as the church submits to Christ". That means to submit about the direction your life takes and to follow his lead. But also that it is his responsibility to lead in a manner that is best for everyone. As Christ leads the church ina manner that is best for it. 2. it states in another passage that husbands are to love and cherish their wives. Too many people forget this one in my oppinion. However, if he is not following that point you cannot follow this one.
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@savak03 (6684)
• United States
13 May 09
You make some very good points. Unfortunately many people only quote parts of the Bible that support their own argument and forget the parts that don't. "All scripture is inspired of God an beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, that the man of God may be fully competent completely equipped for every good work." 2 Timothy 3: 16, 17
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