A Writer's Forum
By ehlana88
@ehlana88 (330)
United States
February 9, 2009 10:28pm CST
What do you look for in a writer's forum? A place for honest critique of your writing? A place for encouragement? A place for ideas? Or just a place to show off and hang out?
My friend started a writer's forum recently and she asked me this question. I wasn't sure what to tell her. The few I've joined have gone down in great blazes of drama and petty angers.
What are your experiences?
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14 responses
@paid2write (5201)
•
10 Feb 09
I participate in a few writers forums. I like to share and exchange experiences of writing.
I think it's good to communicate with other writers so tips and advice can be shared.
A writer's experience is always valuable to other writers, to help in deciding where to submit, and how best to use sites for earning money.
Most writers are helpful, but online forums do get nasty sometimes, and some members will easily take offence at what is posted. Any forum needs good moderators to remove bad posts and ban members who break rules.
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@ljbinkop (744)
• United States
10 Feb 09
I have been involved with a few forums for the past few months, and have earned about 20.00 for my trouble, which I think is pretty good for a beginner. I write on eHow.com, Bukisa.com and Associated Content. Ehow is my favorite so far, not because of the money, but because they have forums like this where others read and comment on your articles. I have found it to be a rewarding experience!
@explorations (1712)
• United States
10 Feb 09
I've been a member of the same writing forum since 1999, and it feels like I'm hanging out with a bunch of friends during our breaks from work. We talk about everything under the sun, both writing related and not. I find writing opportunities there, I share leads I find that others might like, we encourage each other, we warn each other about scams, and we critique each other's work. I used to visit there daily, but I'm on there much less lately.
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@AnythngArt (3302)
• United States
10 Feb 09
This sounds good...is it an open forum or a group of your friends? I'd love to take a look.
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@Qaeyious (2357)
• United States
10 Feb 09
no experiences here as of yet, but my experience of writers forums are very limited, other than here at mylot. But then, no one critiques my writing, it is either responded to or ignored, with no direction how to proceed.
Are there writer forums that help people write better? I will be very interested in hearing about them.
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@trinidadvelasco (11401)
• Philippines
10 Feb 09
until now, i am still all for mylot online. so for experiences, i can only touch on mylot. not a very encouraging note, huh?
however, as i pour my thoughts into this, your friend can always consider to make it like mylot but so much more. maybe, a forum wherein one can fully express himself in some good writeups which shall available for everyone who is interested to join in or just simply read articles and drop comments. kind of, we still can have conversations about the written article, the way we do it here making those responses to a discussion.
@esthatika (85)
• Malaysia
10 Feb 09
It all depends on the kind of writer's forum that you get yourself into. In my opinion, if you wish to get some constructive ideas and motivation about writing, you may want to go through some of the comments posted on a certain writer's forum, and gauge (what kind of people is involved, look through their profile page - are they authors, journalist, freelance writers, or are they just critics, or someone who likes to critics illogically without reasons?)
Only if you are satisfied with most of the comments which you think are constructive & helpful, then you may want to sign up/ register for that particular writer's forum. That way, you can share your ideas or your writing without being afraid that someone will criticized you without any basis at all. Most of us will be discouraged to write if others criticized our work without logical reasons.
@ehlana88 (330)
• United States
10 Feb 09
Honestly, I feel that this is the kind of forum she is trying to create. Two of the moderators she has gotten to sign up for duty are published writers. One is a fairly adequate editor.
She's looking to have a hang out, an idea well, as well as a place to post things. I do hope it works out.
Right now it's just the moderators and her as she hasn't really opened up registration yet for it. I do hope it will be successful.
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@crimsonladybug (3112)
• United States
10 Feb 09
By "forum" I assume you mean online? I was a member of a site called EditRed.com for several years and really got a lot out of it, at first. After a while it stopped being about the critiques and started being more about goofing off and playing games on the "bulletin board."
In a "real life" Round Robin sort of situation, I look for honesty and substance. I don't want praise without explanation and, likewise, I don't want criticism without explanation. And I don't give either without explanation.
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@ehlana88 (330)
• United States
10 Feb 09
Well at least just goofing off is a nice way to drift out of a group. Most of the time I've left online groups because someone will give a slightly harsh but well thought out and explained critique and the writer would be upset. Then the group would fracture down the middle and a war would start. That's typically the point that I extricate myself from the situation and bunker down.
I agree about criticism. I never give without an explanation and a disclaimer that this is my opinion and need not be taken. And I expect more than just fluff praising. If a section is good say so but why. If a section is bad same deal, say so but why.
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@AnythngArt (3302)
• United States
10 Feb 09
I guess I am not sure if you are talking about an in-person group that meets regularly to discuss their work or an online vehicle to do the same. I think that an online writers forum would be a lot more challenging.
The main reason I think an online group would be harder is that some people don't have the right spirit, and unless you know the people, not everyone will participate. It could also get too large and then not function well either. It's tricky to get the right number and commitment of people.
I think an in-person group that works well together of about 5-6 would be great. I have heard of other people's writing groups (which meet in person), but never participated. You might also try NaNoWriMo. The group in Chicago, for example, meets year round at regular intervals.
Good luck with your writing. I'd love to hear more about your friend's plan. I think it could work online, but you would need to limit the size and also have committed folks to really get some value from it.
@AnythngArt (3302)
• United States
10 Feb 09
Well, from what you have written here, I am cautiously optimistic about the site. I guess what's needed is a strong group of participants who are there for the right intentions (not to flame, but to help). It could turn out to be a great thing if one well. I'd love to see it when she's got it up and running. I hope it works out.
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@AnythngArt (3302)
• United States
10 Feb 09
Sorry, there is something missing from that next to last sentence. I was trying to say that it could work out well.
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@ehlana88 (330)
• United States
10 Feb 09
Yeah, she is creating an online forum because those of us who are her friends and writers are scattered across the U.S. and other places. Her hope is to narrow our internet travels as we review blogs, websites, etc into a more general location. This would make it easier to connect on various levels, as well as offer a place where we can review the work easier.
I was part of an in-person group that met once a month until I moved from the area. I loved the group but at one point it just got too large and the connection and honesty drifted away.
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@underdogtoo (9579)
• Philippines
12 Feb 09
I like to write but I do not consider myself a writer. I have joined Helium but have not earned anything for my articles, just for cursory page views. It might take me several lifetimes before I even consider joining a writer's forum. Cheers!!
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@Margajoe (4747)
• Germany
11 Feb 09
This is the first forum I have stayed with.
Normally I get bored with the forum.
Here everyone is so friendly and always wanting to help out.
I like that.
So you could say I look for friendly people, with friendly advice.
I basically like to be able to communicate with other people who think like I do.
Seeing as I don't see people very often anymore, it is nice to make friends on My Lot.
I don't feel so alone all the time.
Take care, happy mylotting.
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@Margajoe (4747)
• Germany
12 Feb 09
Yes it is nice to meet people who think the same.
Or people that are willing to except you as you are.
A give and take situation. But, all wanting the same thing;
"Contact with others." Being able to express yourself and learn from others.
Take care, happy mylotting.
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@iakulchen (615)
• Singapore
11 Feb 09
Hmm, I would have to say it would be the type of forum where I know I can start a thread and get a nice diverse mix of opinions. I kind of take it as a given that there will be some who will be quite harsh when critquing a piece of work, which I actually see as a good thing.
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@ehlana88 (330)
• United States
11 Feb 09
Well not so much harsh as honest. Writing contains several elements and what we try to do is help each other out by pointing out the good bits as well as the bad. The good bits so you know what you have to work with and the bad bits so you know what you need to fix.
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@iakulchen (615)
• Singapore
12 Feb 09
What I meant was where someone might say "Point X in your article was quite well-written, but I think point Y could be improved on", another person might say the same thing but phrased as " Point Y is horrible, although your article is redeemed by point X" Like I mentioned above, I think it's a good thing. I do wish that people wouldn't start flaming back when comments are posted belonging to the second category though. I have seen a number of cases where it just broken down into a pointless flame war and it wasn't even the writer who took offence but just someone who posted after who took issue with it. And then someone else fires a shot back and it all goes downhill from there.
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@ehlana88 (330)
• United States
13 Feb 09
I agree. People become very attached to their opinions and feel affronted when it is not agreed with. Sometimes I wonder if it's gotten worse since the internet. On the internet you can almost always find a group of people who feel the same way about something as you do. Then when you come across someone who disagrees instead of taking a step back and going ok that's your opinion you attack. Is it the anonymity of being online?
@DoriLentrich (1016)
• United States
11 Feb 09
Support and critique are the main things I look for in a writing forum. For me, it is less about socializing and having a good time and more about honing my craft. It's a job thing. But, that being said, I'm tending to avoid the online world right now because of copyright issues. A lot of markets won't touch something if it's been posted online, even in a workshopping forum type thing. As much as I'd like the feedback (and I would like the feedback), I'd rather have the market open to purchasing the work down the line.
@ehlana88 (330)
• United States
11 Feb 09
That is a very good point and one I've been concerned with myself. Some of what I'm working on is hopefully (fingers and toes crossed) heading down the line for publication in various formats. Do I or should I risk posting it to this forum. Or should I stick to the poetry section where I know I won't be publishing?
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@DoriLentrich (1016)
• United States
13 Feb 09
I can't advise you one way or the other. But I will tell you to be very careful in the changing technology about where you present your work before submitting it. The definition of "published" is changing at the same speed of all technology. And publishers get testy about things like that. Also, putting something online may limit your rights to the piece. MAKE SURE YOU READ ALL THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS! I can't stress that enough. Most people leave the rights with the authors, but some don't. It's critical to writers that we become proactive in our legal rights.
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@DoriLentrich (1016)
• United States
14 Feb 09
Then you are leaps and bounds ahead of a lot of people. It's a very simple truth, READ BEFORE YOU SIGN. Don't let anyone "summarize" a document that will bind you to anything. People may not like the stuff they're reading and have to sign anyway, but they should know that up front and not after. Ignorance is not a defense.
Good for you! It's rare to hear from someone who reads what they sign.
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@Porcospino (31366)
• Denmark
11 Feb 09
I have been a member of a writer's forum in my country (Denmark) and I think that one of the biggest problems is that very few people comment on the poems or stories that people post. Sometimes more than 200 people have read the text, but not a single person left a comment, so I would say that one of the most important things that I look for in a writer's forum is active participation. Sometimes I have chosen to post my poems on a general forum instead. There are many other topics and writing is only a small part of it, but more people respond. I actually prefer a forum which is only about writing, it just seems hard to get any comments there. I like to get critique of my writing, and I also like to get help or new ideas. Sometimes I have asked for help on a particular line of a poem or a couple of lines, but I have never received any responses.
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@ehlana88 (330)
• United States
11 Feb 09
That is a very good point and I always wonder why people never really take the time to post a response. Is it because they don't have anything to say or is it because they really haven't taken the time to think about things.
Its a hard balance between fluff praise or real comments. I hope that those we get will be willing to be open and full fo comments but we won't know until we get people.
@forslahiri (1042)
• India
10 Feb 09
Hi,
sounds interesting.I do write some poems and scribble some short stories with Morals(Values).Will these do?
=Lahiri,Kolkata,India.
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@letsbcool (6)
• Morocco
11 Feb 09
Is this a paid writing job...like Get Paid For: http://cashearninggo.synthasite.com
Lot of forum owners pays for writing articles..I don't think that writing for a blog for free is a good idea.