Is the Government Justified in allowing Wage Cuts and Shorter Working Hours?

@acevivx (1566)
Philippines
February 11, 2009 5:26am CST
Is it justified on the part of a government to allow private establishments and industries to lower wages,impose wage cuts and shorten working hours of employees so as to reduce the wages they will earn just because of the global financial crisis? MOst if not all countries have labor laws providing for non-diminution of benefits, minimum wages and minimum working hours and all other provisions to guarantee protection of the working class. However, some governments are now allowing employers to make wage cuts, lower salaries and shorten working hours considering teh present economic depression worldwide, justifying such acts with the claim that it is better than for workers losing their jobs altogether. Do you agree?
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
11 Feb 09
This is not a socialist country (yet) and the government should not order private businesses to pay their workers more than they can afford. It's this type of government garbage that has given UAW so much power and made it impossible for companies like GM and Chrysler to turn a profit. If government hadn't kept butting into private business affairs we wouldn't be in a financial crisis right now. Businesses have the right to fire anyone they want if their budget is cut. If they can't lower wages they will simply fire the people they can't afford and hire cheaper replacements.
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
12 Feb 09
Well companies need good workers. If you pay substandard wages, you get substandard employees. That may be fine if you just need people who flip burgers or bag groceries, but you won't get a computer tech, accountant, etc. with substandard wages. Companies pay what they have to for the level of employee they want.
@acevivx (1566)
• Philippines
12 Feb 09
Well i do not agree with you that government should not regulate private establishments in relation to hours of work, wages etc in normal times. If companies would just be allowed to do whatever they want, you can bet your last dollar that they will pay substandard wages and provide substandard working terms and conditions. it is the duty of the government to protect its workers and ensure that they are provided fair terms and conditions of employment. If government has not protected the workers, we would have been in worst situation long long before the financial crisis. ^Workers would be living in abject poverty while businesses would grow richer paying starvation wages. But of course it depends on what part of society you belong to,
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@ayessa (1583)
• Philippines
12 Feb 09
If we will base in on laws I think it's really wrong cause some governments implements a minimum wage rate and it should be followed carefully. So once they lower the rate they must first revised that law. But the workers or some of the workers agrees to this dicission since they want a job even the earning will be cut down rather than nothing at all.
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@acevivx (1566)
• Philippines
12 Feb 09
Desperate times require desperate measures and there is no doubt these are becoming desperate times. And yes we have minimum wage laws that's why it need the government to "allow" payment of lower wages before a company can do so without fear of being charged with violation of the labor code.
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@riyasam (16556)
• India
11 Feb 09
i would think "something is better than nothing"due to recession,many people are losing their jobs and to get a new job is so difficult.i know of some of my friends who are struggling,as many of their incentives have been cut.
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@acevivx (1566)
• Philippines
12 Feb 09
here are a lot who think the same way and therefore believe wage cuts etc are justified. From any angle, something is better than nothing
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@lexus54 (3572)
• Singapore
12 Feb 09
I don't know about such labor laws governing the imposition of wages or working hours, but my view is that private establishments and industries are privately run, and their business models are driven by profitability. For them, it is all about making money and survival in whatever the economic climate they are operating in. If the economy is bad and they are not doing well, their management and board of directors have to make key decisions to lower costs by shutting down offices, cutting back on production, reducing wages and bonuses, cutting staff or even retrenching some of them so that they can survive a downturn. They need to be accountable to their shareholders on their performance, and therefore it is prudent that their top management has both the right and responsibility to make the best decision for their companies to keep them afloat. If a company's hands are tied by government legislation forbidding them to take prudent business measures in bad times and end up going down, jobs will be lost and that will be even worse for the working class.
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@acevivx (1566)
• Philippines
12 Feb 09
The keyword is profitability. That is all private companies are interested in and without government intervention or labor laws, they would pull out all stops and do everything to gain more profits even at the expense of sweat, blood and tears of the workers. Without the workers, private businesses cannot operate. Without labor, capital is useless hence it is but just and fair that private companies should also share profits with their workers through fair wages who play a very big role in their profitability. The question is... is the government justified in allowing lowering of wAges just because of the crisis and in order to keep the workers with a job even if wages are low?
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@spalladino (17891)
• United States
11 Feb 09
The government does not and should not have control over how private businesses are run. I, personally, would have preferred having my hours cut or my wages reduced than being let go altogether as my company's budget was cut well into the bone. My unemployment benefits, which will eventually run out, are less than half of what I was bringing home every week. When you lose your job you also lose your medical coverage and, considering the cost of providing it for yourself, working less hours or taking a pay cut is still more beneficial to a family in the long run.
@acevivx (1566)
• Philippines
12 Feb 09
Actually it is still the decision of the company whether or not to let go of many workers or try to keep them on but at lower wages. The government just "allows" them to lower wages in the sense that the companies do not have to worry about complaints of unfair labor practice is if they do so. The government cannot force a company to keep on workers if the company believes it cannot afford to do so.
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• United States
11 Feb 09
I do not think the government should impose these things. Companies should have the freedom to decide how they are going to deal with crisis. Each company is different with different needs. How is lowering peoples hours and pay going to help the economy? They still will not be able to pay their bills or have extra money to spend on products so therefore it is not going to solve the problem. Yes it keeps people employeed but it will not solve the problems of this global ecomony. How long will these people keep their jobs when people continue to not be able to spend? Not long. As companies keep loosing money they will have to either close or cut their over head (laying off people). The key is getting more money to the people so they can pay their bills and buy goods. That in turn will cause the companies to make money and able to keep their staff.
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@acevivx (1566)
• Philippines
12 Feb 09
That is another way of looking at the issue. While it is true that the worker still has a job and can help carry him through the crisis, the fact remains that he would not be able really to spend much and so will not help the economy improve. What is it that we need to do? Keep people employed even at half wages but not helping the economy much or try to boost the economy by giving people more money to spend. Must be a hard decision for government to make.
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@skysuccess (8858)
• Singapore
12 Feb 09
acevivx, IMHO, it is justifiable for the government to allow private establishments and industries to lower wages, impose wage cuts and shorten working hours of their employees to stay viable and survive this challenging period. I do not think this is a rule of the thumb and forced measure for firms to adopt, the government is just permitting this option so that the workers will not loose their much needed jobs. As the saying goes: Something is still better than nothing and I think it is important for these establishments to stay viable to survive and tide over this "economic tsunami". However, if the business is doing well and needs to expand then we would not see these cutbacks at all. For any enterprise will know that amidst of these challenging times, it would be the best time to expand ones venture too. That is if the conditions allow and conducive for such an undertaking. Other than that, it would just be prudent to slow down and not run out of steam prematurely. Cheers.
• Singapore
12 Feb 09
acevivx, I think we need to be aware that at this point of time a lot of established industries are already suffering from this economic recession and I do not think there is much the government would not want or could do. It is a global issue here and unless the US and Europe economy picks up there is no way the situation will get any better. Look around you, I believe Asia is now facing over surpluses on their export productions due to the cancellation of orders. How else can these US and European counterparts be spending when their livelihoods and housing are affected so much in this recession. With the unemployment rates ever increasing with no certainty of a positive turnaround, I would say it will be just challenging and tough times ahead. skysuccess.
@acevivx (1566)
• Philippines
12 Feb 09
I know a lot of workers who are presently still with a job even at lower wages agree with you that something is better than nothing.Rather than having nothing at all to spend for food, they would prefer to be paid lower wages in order to be able to scrape through and to survive. But there are others who would say that what the government should do is to take measures that will pump prime the economy and provide jobs that pay well so that people will have more money to spend and so boost recovery of the economy. Lower wages would mean lower spending and so longer period of recovery.
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