Would you, should you commit suicide for Love?
@TheGreatWhiteBuffalo (4822)
United States
February 15, 2009 8:34pm CST
It is true that at the moment a person states that they would die if they could not have you as a lover that the person making such a statement is not the lover for you.
Has your lover threatened suicide?
Did you feel sorry for that person?
Did you know that was a person with a control issue?
If you are in a relationship where your partner threatened to commit suicide then I pray for your relationship because it is clearly built upon a false foundation just as my relationship with the woman I eventually made a marriage commitment to, you can see how it worked out for me. I became the victim of a sociopath...
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@baileycows (3665)
• United States
16 Feb 09
But I don't always think that is true. I have done it when I thought my husband left me. It was not a cry or anything I was fully expected to die when my sister saved my life. I know now that I can live without him and I would not do it again in the event that he didnt want to be with me, but I don't think you always end up with a sociopath. I did not tell him I was doing it. He never knew until after it was done.
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@TheGreatWhiteBuffalo (4822)
• United States
17 Feb 09
I am so glad that you are here with us and stronger now knowing that your spouse while being your lover is not your total end all to and of life... We are capable of loving anyone...
@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
16 Feb 09
Love is the greatest enemy of the human heart. Even the toughest guy is mellowed down when they are swept by love and love is the weapon that destroy every right thinking mind. I could not believe you have been duped into believing that a woman is dying for your love and jump to appease her by blindly signing on the dotted lines of the marriage contract only to end up with a traumatic life liken to be living hell. I would never surrender to threatening words in the name of love as I believe we should not force ourselves to be blinded by only lip service of love. Love should manifest from within and not used as a capital to swindle a person's right of time to make a wise decision.
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@TheGreatWhiteBuffalo (4822)
• United States
17 Feb 09
Your words are very poetic and I do so agree with you it was a traumatic night that I was violated an argument ensued and I stormed out of my mothers house having her accuse me of being a bad person... I only had a motorcycle and it was in November I had no gloves and when I saw a man burning leaves I tried to warm my hands by his fire, I was so cold I couldn't set my motorcycle stand properly and the bike fell over levers bent or broke and I ended up calling my father to come get me, I couldn't or wasn't allowed to live with him and I had no other place to turn other than my then girlfriend... The one who threatened to kill herself if I was to ever leave her.
Wonder why I was heading in any other direction?
@DavidReedy (2378)
• United States
20 Feb 09
wow... such a thing makes for a great Romeo (or Romulus) and Juliet story... Also, I can see how old(er) couples who've been together for decades would do it... But for everyone else... I just don't know... Love denotes living, and carrying on, doesn't it? Doesn't it?
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@sparkofinsanity (20471)
• Regina, Saskatchewan
21 Feb 09
Tried it. Didn't work. Thank God.
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@TheGreatWhiteBuffalo (4822)
• United States
21 Feb 09
I thank GOD also, why if you succeeded I would not have gotten to know you and that would have been well GOD Awful...
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@TheGreatWhiteBuffalo (4822)
• United States
21 Feb 09
I am so proud of Annie finding you in your time of need and that the two of you have been so completely connected the whole time through...
Good for you and Annie...
You are so lucky to have such a life filled with friends and lots of them.
Right there at your finger tips just as in your town...
You Rock...
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@sparkofinsanity (20471)
• Regina, Saskatchewan
21 Feb 09
It certainly would!
I was an idiot. Middle aged hormones, bio clock ticking and all that rot.
It was actually an accident, but somewhere back my mind I was at a point where I really no longer cared about life. Thank God for AnnieOakley. She saved my life and slapped me silly and I changed my thinking completely.........
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@UK_Shree (3603)
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17 Feb 09
I don't believe in ending your own life because of someone else. It hurts when your partner lets you down in anyway, and I understand that sometimes that pain is unbearable, but never is it worth ending your own life over. People that want to kill themselves do not realise that they will move beyond the way they feel at that moment in time, even if it takes years, you do move on. Why deny yourself the potential happiness that awaits you after the pain has gone?
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@TheGreatWhiteBuffalo (4822)
• United States
17 Feb 09
Yep, I hear you and I agree.
Thanks for taking the time to send a response.
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@TheGreatWhiteBuffalo (4822)
• United States
17 Feb 09
The problem occurs really big when one does not want to work things out and continues to lie in order to gain control.
I've heard enough lies and I've had enough confrontations, I have to draw the line and say that my boundary has been crossed now we are divided and so we turn our backs on each other and she stabs me... (Metaphorically of course)
In firefighting they teach us to never turn your back on danger, I guess I needed to remember that...
@James72 (26790)
• Australia
16 Feb 09
Would I, should I? Hell no! 
I have thankfully never been in the position of having to deal with threats such as these and I of course hope I never am. I am sorry to hear that you had to face something like this yourself GWB and I hope that this is but a past dilemma for you now. How a relationship could possibly survive such an approach is beyond me.
Yes I would feel sorry for the person if they were to attempt this line of coercion, because their opinion of themselves is obviously far beyond gone and there is little I could do to change this directly you would think. As much as I may THINK at the time that I could make a difference;(after all they would be my partner so I would of course love them!) there would be issues far removed from myself that they would have to seek help to address. It's only after they have found the ultimate cause of these feelings that things would have any chance of improving. And I'm talking about self-improvement more than the betterment of any semblance of a relationship!
I have thankfully never been in the position of having to deal with threats such as these and I of course hope I never am. I am sorry to hear that you had to face something like this yourself GWB and I hope that this is but a past dilemma for you now. How a relationship could possibly survive such an approach is beyond me.
Yes I would feel sorry for the person if they were to attempt this line of coercion, because their opinion of themselves is obviously far beyond gone and there is little I could do to change this directly you would think. As much as I may THINK at the time that I could make a difference;(after all they would be my partner so I would of course love them!) there would be issues far removed from myself that they would have to seek help to address. It's only after they have found the ultimate cause of these feelings that things would have any chance of improving. And I'm talking about self-improvement more than the betterment of any semblance of a relationship!1 person likes this
@TheGreatWhiteBuffalo (4822)
• United States
17 Feb 09
You are so right I made some mistakes and this was a big one, but who knew how to deal with such an abusive parent that the child would be soooo messed up and myself I was also so abused and we were both traumatized and the worst part is that if you seek help the first thing they want to do is prescribe medication, this is not a condition that any medication can fix it is a problem with self esteem and having a good support network.
Enter the church and hoping to have a good support network... I did my best until that lying detective ruined everything... That one lie opened up a whole can of worms a storm of enormous proportions was building under the surface of my relationship. The church was having my wife convinced that things in our possession for years had to be removed, certain financial records and some fantasy games and things like that...
Some church, and then when my wife was forced to sign my mothers lies where was the church?
They certainly didn't have my back, that is for sure...
When I say that I'm under a lot of stress and I find it hard to focus on singing this is part of the reason... Some of the drama and trauma is just so fresh...
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@nini89 (670)
• India
26 Feb 09
Threatening and making love is not the true love one can say. Love comes from the heart and by the sight and not by threatening. He is not the true lover who threatens. Mine was not a love marriage it was an arrange marriage by my parents but before we used to meet each other after our engagement.Happy posting and have a nice day.
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@deanna2 (159)
• United States
16 Feb 09
hi i beleive that love sometimes hurts but for one to take their own life becauseof this is truely a sin and hurts more people than the one u ment to hurt you rember the old saying if you love someone set them free if they come back it was ment to be if not it never was i beleive theres someone out there for every one and tho it hurts move on because most likely you'll find the love that will make u very happy
@TheGreatWhiteBuffalo (4822)
• United States
17 Feb 09
Thank you Deanna,
It was very kind of you to wish me a happy future.
@tamron123 (276)
• United States
16 Feb 09
Be careful that is a red flag. People that say things like that can and will get dangerous. That is obsessive behavior! Also anther form of control! These kind of relationships can and will become abusive!
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@TheGreatWhiteBuffalo (4822)
• United States
17 Feb 09
That is a very interesting piece of advice, I wanted to respond with you don't say??? That response indicates that you have looked through my past writings as a window into this discussion. Yep you are right on each and every point you made and I am living proof of how wise you are... 
And by the way, that is not a proud happy...
That response indicates that you have looked through my past writings as a window into this discussion. Yep you are right on each and every point you made and I am living proof of how wise you are... And by the way, that is not a proud happy... @tea512 (687)
• United States
16 Feb 09
Pretty deep topic for mylot, I would think that if the door closes on one relationship another will open. There is no reason to end your life over love. I do see that it happens and it makes you think how could someone have that much hold over another. I am soory to hear what you say and hope you have the strength to make it past one day. The damage of these staements and action can send someone inot a tailspin for years.
@TheGreatWhiteBuffalo (4822)
• United States
17 Feb 09
That they do... Tailspins and damage that is for sure...
