Is it fair to force your children into religion?
@HearrttAttaccck (47)
United States
February 17, 2009 11:20am CST
Religion seems to be a very touchy subject. I met a friend and he is atheist. At the time, I was beginning to fade from being religious and he really opened my eyes up. I'm no longer religious. I can not accept something that doesn't make sense to me any more. What I wanted to ask was this, because my mother doesn't seem to realize that I can not stand going to church, do you think it's fair for parents to make their children do something they don't want to do. I have told my mother that I can't pay attention in church and I fight with her any time I have to go. I am forced to go because I am 20 and still live at home. I want to know what everyone thinks about this.
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@okkidokitokki (1736)
• United States
17 Feb 09
If you have faith, a strong belif, then when you have children you should share your faith with them. Have open discussions with them as they age about what you belive and about what they belive. I do not think it is unreasonable to make you children go to church with you, but when that child is old enough to make a decision about their faith, and they disagree with you it is hard. If you have always raised you children in a way of "my house, my rules" then that is how it is. When they are old enough then they can move out and do what they want.
You are 20 years old, and you live at home. It is ok to not agree with your parent's faith but it is NOT ok to cause disruption in your home. You are an adult, move out, live on your own with your own rules.
If you can't move out then at least respect your parents enough to act like an adult and not fight with them, go, take a journal and write, it will look like you are taking notes and keep you from falling asleep.
As an aside, having your own place is highly over rated if it means that you are fighting with your family about why you moved out. Growing up is hard, with or without faith.
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@HearrttAttaccck (47)
• United States
17 Feb 09
I don't try and disrupt my home. I just feels like I can't live or experience anything. I can't make my own mistakes. I just don't believe I need to be told I have to go. I should get the choice of staying home.
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@okkidokitokki (1736)
• United States
17 Feb 09
I think that the real problem here is that you want to make adult decisions (and you are old enough to), but because you still live at home your parents want you to follow the rules that have always been there.
I stand by my thought that the only cure is for you to move out, but do it respectfully. Unitl you move out you can't actually expect your parents to treat you any different by giving you permission to not go to church
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@Christoph56 (1504)
• Canada
17 Feb 09
I think that a part of this whole this is also in the fact that you're 20 years old and still living at home. I moved away from my parent's home when I was about 19, and it was the greatest choice I had ever made. It is just so great to be living on your own, have your house set up the way you want it, live by your own rules, and go to whatever church you want! All you need is a small job and the ability to keep your expenses low, and you could get a place all to yourself. Maybe after you get to that point, you wouldn't mind going to your Mom's church as much, because it would be a time to meet up with family. Thats really one of the high points of going to a church, anyways.
Of course, me also being an atheist, I think it would be even better if you got away from the church altogether, but that would break your Mom's heart, and I don't like the sound of that. Church can seem pretty boring and pointless, but one of it's actual advantages is bringing families together. It's like the family all gets together for a live stage performance at a theatre once a week... and maybe she's more Opera and you're more rock and roll. Do you understand what I mean? You two might not both enjoy what you're seeing as much, but the whole concept of it is to bring people together, and I think thats good for your Mom.
Plus, you gotta thank her regularly... you wouldn't be here if it wasn't for her.
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@HearrttAttaccck (47)
• United States
17 Feb 09
I do thank her. I do. I try to do what I can but her and I have lost touch. We fight a lot. I've been told a lot of bad crap that pushes me away from wanting to be a part of this family. I know it brings family together, it could always mess up stuff. I met a few of my best friends though church but they've gotta accept that I can't handle it any more. I can not accept a faith based on stories. I have a mind and I can think for my own. If once I get out and I want to go back, sure I'll go back. I think it's highly unlikely because I can't believe in something that doesn't make sense to me. Sure it was great as a kid when I needed something to do. Now, I know better. Sometimes the church DOESN'T bring people together like it should. It sends out zealots that bash in people's minds that they need to be saved or they're condemned to a non-existence hell. That's what pisses me off. It's like being forced to watch a movie you hate every week. After a while you get sick and you end up going psycho. If the church did what was right we'd see people accepted no matter what, this includes homosexuals. You don't see the church itchin' to bring homosexuals in. If we were a better thinking country we'd accept everyone.
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@ctrymuziklvr (11057)
• United States
17 Feb 09
I don't think it's fair for parents to force any religion on their kids. I brought my 3 kids up Catholic and my two girls decided that it wasn't the way for them so once they were in their 30's they both decided they wanted to convert to Lutheranism and it didn't bother me in the least. They are adults and have their own minds.
@HearrttAttaccck (47)
• United States
17 Feb 09
Exactly, I'm almost an adult, I can make my own choices. I can't really seem to anything for myself. I'm being forced to go and it bothers me that I can't seem to think for myself so I must help my church.
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@Patrika952 (156)
• United States
17 Feb 09
Almost an adult? Um, at 18 you are considered an adult. I understand that you are still living at home, but I still dont think they should be able to force you into something you are not comfortable with.
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@OakLawnSkywarn (15)
• United States
17 Feb 09
When you reach the age of 18, you shouldn't be forced to do anything by anyone. You have the right to practice (a) religion, in your case, you wish not to have a religion. I respect everyone's right to do anything they want, if they are reponsible enough to respect everyone elses rights. Your parents should not be permitted to force you to practice a religion. However, they have given you a home for 20 years, and they could kick you out at any time. Even if you go, it doesn't mean you have to practice it, just pretend to.
@HearrttAttaccck (47)
• United States
17 Feb 09
I know they have given me a home. Then tend to tease me though when the fact that they'd love to kick me out. I'll give them that once I pass boards.
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@okkidokitokki (1736)
• United States
17 Feb 09
If you are responsible enough to not be living at home then you can do as you wish, but just because you have been alive for 18 years does not mean you imediatly have earned the right to not be told what to do. If you are still living at home then you still need mom and dad, so you still need guidance, and if mom and dad think that going to church with them is what you need then go. If you don't like it then act like an adult: get a job and relocate your belongings to a place where yo pay the bills, and do your own laundry, and cook your own food.
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@Patrika952 (156)
• United States
17 Feb 09
I personally think that it is horrible for parents to force their children into religion. They give them no choice, and end up warping young, impressionable minds. And then they dont stop there...these religious fanatics insist upon hounding the rest of the world to believe the nonsense that they preach. Arent religions supposed to be all about accepting people and forgiveness? Then why do they find the need to preach about how you are doomed to hell and torment if you do not believe every single word they say? The only way to be 'saved' is to come and join in the make-believe. It is my mission to spread the word of God...no, it should be your mission to mind your own business and let people live their lives! Forcing religion upon others is just wrong.
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@Patrika952 (156)
• United States
17 Feb 09
I think that your parents are wrong to make you choose either a roof over your head and religion or life on the street. That is coercion, I think that is wrong. At least you have had your eyes opened to the real world...good luck to you.
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@HearrttAttaccck (47)
• United States
17 Feb 09
Agreed. It should really be illegal for this to happen. The church has become so warped. My church has sold off the building and they're planning on moving some where closer. Also they want to change the service times so they can have one earlier and such. My mother will force me to go with her if this happens and I can't really take a stand for myself out of fear that I'll get kicked out when I'm so close to leaving any way. I have really no foundation to live by myself. I wish it wasn't this way but it is.
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@allentcl82 (590)
• Singapore
18 Feb 09
well, religion shouldnt be forced, i do believe that religion at times do really provide a very strong physiological support, but that is only if you BELIEVE in that particular religion. If you are forced into a particular religion, but you dont believe a thing in the teachings, what good will it do to you??
As long as you have a good heart, its already even if you are a free thinker..
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@HearrttAttaccck (47)
• United States
18 Feb 09
You can still be a good person without having religion. What if a kid grows up in a harmful environment and something happen in the church that shook the child's foundation? That could have adverse effects in his or hers future. I have no patience for stories any more. I rather live of knowing facts. I can't believe in something if it's just a story and no real proof to add to it.
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@babyorchid (1737)
• China
17 Feb 09
my family don't believe any religions.and we never force anyone to trust any religion,bcz it's ur freedom to believe it or not..
@eichs1 (1934)
• Philippines
17 Feb 09
I believe religion is a very personal thing that is should not be forced to anybody. What's the use of requiring someone attend a mass/service always if he/she doesn't believe on what is being preached in that church? The best thing here is just to guide the child, the parents will share and show their belief, but let him/her think and decide whether to believe and continue in his/her parent's religion.
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@HearrttAttaccck (47)
• United States
17 Feb 09
Exactly. Parents should give children choices and this one of the area's I think parent's need to think about just as much as what children watch or who they hang out with.
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@delrealmonica (189)
• United States
18 Feb 09
I feel the exact same way as you. My dad is a VERY devout Catholic and is involved in everything. So growing up I was always in sunday school (until last year) and plays and any other events.
Now being 16 i don't have much choice because i am still under their "authority". I always tell him that i do not agree with it and do not get anything out of the masses and that making me go multiple times a week is simply pushing me farther away!
Now i still believe in being a good person and some of the basics of religion, but ultimatley it just seems so boring and unrealistic.
So as soon as i move out i probably stop going to church (except for on holidays and other occasions)
@HearrttAttaccck (47)
• United States
18 Feb 09
Aye, exactly. I know what you mean, as long as I'm here I had to follow along.
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@lorraine27 (271)
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18 Feb 09
its totally wrong to make someone to belive in some think i am a christian and my husband is a muslim and we dont have any problems when it cames to religion. we have talk about what we will do when we come to having children and we have said that they children we go to church with me and go to the moss with there dad. when they do get older they can pick what they what. am sure it will be hard for both of us if they do not pick anythng. but God does not make anyone do anything they do not what to, we have free well. and making someone do something they do not wish to is going to majke them run the otheir way. i hope you fine what you want to
@maanrodriguez (604)
• Philippines
18 Feb 09
I grew up in an environment where I was allowed to make my own decisions. Although my parents did voice out their opinions, I do feel blessed that they have allowed me to formulate my own thoughts or opinions even if it would usually differ from them.
I believe religion is a personal subject. I am a Catholic but I dont really like all the aspects of it. my mom is a devout Catholic and it does happen that we have a difference in opinion but still I feel that she does not prohibit me from staying true to what I believe in regardless if it's the same thing she believes in.
just talk it out with each other and try to reach out and understand each other's points of view.
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@Rskarthik24 (66)
• India
18 Feb 09
All religions are great in their own ways and none is inferior to other.
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@Jamton (118)
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18 Feb 09
I believe that it is wrong to force children into religion when they don't believe it. I think as long as a person is old enough to evaluate the facts in their own minds, and figure out what they believe, it is entirely their decision.
I know how you feel, I grew up with my Grandparents, both who are strict Methodists. As a child I was made to go to Church and Sunday school. At that age I enjoyed Church and I enjoyed learning about faith and Christianity. As I grew up I tried to make myself believe in God as I wanted my Nan to be happy and proud of me. As much as I tried to make myself believe I really couldn't do it, and at 15 I tried to explain to my Nan that I didn't believe in it, and that I felt I'd be a hypocrite if I continued attending Church. My Nan didn't approve it at all, and cried. I felt guilty but she had to understand that you can't make someone blindly believe something if they don't want to. I'm 18 now and she still doesn't approve but she's learnt to accept it.
If I were to have a child I would want him/her to be brought up into Religion for the pure fact that I think you should understand and respect faith, and be entitled to make your own decisions on religion :)
@renemouche (843)
• United States
17 Feb 09
First off I would like to say that I am a religious person. I was brought up Catholic and Im still a practing one. I don't believe its right for parents to force religion onto their children once they are of age and are capable of making their own decisions.
My family has people of different denomations. Two of my Aunts were rasied Catholic and then once they were in there 20's and 30's the decised to switch to Baptist. It doesn't bother anyone in our family in the least.
I believe that religion should not be forced on anybody. I would love for everyone to know God and feel him in their life but It should not be forced. I belive that we should accept everyone whether they believe in God or not.
I dont think you should be forced to go to church if you don't want to
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@ClassyCat (1214)
• United States
17 Feb 09
okkidokitokki - you gave some good advice.
Let me share a bit from the parent's outlook here.
We always told our 2 kids that as long as they lived at home, they lived by the rules of the home, and church attendance at least on Sunday mornings was required.
From our hearts - we were "not" FORCING them to go to church, but rather wanting them to at least be taught the things that would help them later in life.
Of course like most kids, they moved out at 18, and quit going to church. They both made some really wrong decisions and have both suffered from those decisions.
Living on your own is not always what it seems to be. At least while you are at home, you have some safety in your life, and it can be better if you choose to make it better.
It takes two people to make an argument. If you just don't say anything, it cannot continue. But as it goes, many kids
(and parents too) feel that they have to have the last word on any given subject.
Why not try making a change? Be sweet and courteous to your parents. When mom starts on something, just say (nicely) that you'd rather not discuss it.
Do things for your mom without expecting anything in return. You'll find as you change your approach to her and "things" - that things will be different.
Read your Bible and become acquainted with your Lord through the scriptures and prayer. Ask Him to help you.
He is not religion. He is your God, and will help you find what you need to better work through things, both now and later on in life.
God bless you dear, and I will pray for you and your mom.
ClassyCat
@rogue13xmen13 (14403)
• United States
18 Feb 09
I do not think that people should force religion on others, but often times they do. Rather sad I think. People should have choices.
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@izathewzia (5134)
• Philippines
17 Feb 09
I am a Catholic. As much as possible, I want my children to stay Catholic also. But if in the course of their lives, they find their faith are growing more into other religion, I will let them. As long as I am seeing their growth is good.
@nzalheart (2338)
• India
18 Feb 09
I agree with you. It's not fair for the parents to force you into choosing the religion. One must be free to choose their religion. No matter you fade from religion, there are some good things and teachings from every religion, you must not quit good things. No matter you don't go to church, but you can continue its teachings which are really good.
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@paoxav (1382)
• Philippines
18 Feb 09
Do not force, just teach them on what you thought what's right. They will be mature individuals in time and they can learn from themselves on what is the one true religion they think would be. Give them their freedom to choose once they grew up. Atleast you thought them the thing that you somehow knew about religion..
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@eabaterina (501)
• Philippines
18 Feb 09
i think that parents or even grandparents should not force their religion onto their children. we have the freedom to choose our religion and they should not force us to do something we dont feel comfortable doing. i used to have a protestant friend and he invited me to their church and i went just to meet neew friends. my grandmother found out and she made such a fuss about it, she even started crying, blah blah and i really hated it. she should not tie me to her religion just because she wants to. i have my free will and i can choose what religion i want, not that i wanted to be a protestant or something. i just hate it when she tries to prevent me from doing things i want. there's nothing wrong with what i did. and i cannot even answer her back because it is treated as disrespectful grrr
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@sampotle (36)
• United States
18 Feb 09
I believe that parents have the right to raise their children with any religion that fits their lifestyle, but they also have an OBLIGATION to teach their children to think for themselves. If they wanted to force you into church when you were 12 thats one thing, but at 20 years old i think it becomes a issue of mutual respect. Your parents should have more respect for you.
Personally i think turning away from religion shows intelligence and strength. I believe that religion as we know it today is for the weak.
check out www.zeitgeistmovie.com
The original ( Zeitgeist the movie) addresses some well orgonized ideas on religion pretty early in the movie. Check it out if you have not seen it yet.