So What Does A Knight Wear Under That Armor?

@gtargirl (5376)
United States
February 18, 2009 1:51am CST
The scene: My knight is wounded and he's taking off all that shiny protective medieval gear. Even the chainmaille has been thrown off. Yeah, we'll get into how on Earth did he get wounded with all that stuff on later? My question is, what did they wear under all of it . . . what material was their "underwear" made of etc?
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@urbandekay (18278)
18 Feb 09
Hosery. Presumably made from wool, so in full armour a knight would have been very warm! The screwdriver is a device invented for removing armour! If your knight is in full plate then no chain mail. all the best urban
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@urbandekay (18278)
18 Feb 09
oops hosiery all the best urban
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@gtargirl (5376)
• United States
20 Feb 09
Oh, very interesting about the screwdriver. We'll look into that. Okay, so no chain mail under the armor. Got it. My research is about as long as the novel. Oy!!! Thanks, my friend.
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@thorgrym (675)
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20 Feb 09
Yes, full chain mail would not have been worn under plate mail. However, there are certain areas that could not be covered by the plate armor, so chain would supplement the plates.
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@uath13 (8192)
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20 Feb 09
Great question. Lets see. ( removes the top layer of plates , vambraces, greaves & helm ) First under the plates we have the mail halbark & arming coif. These protect the vulnerable joints while still providing flexibility. The arming coif holds the helmet off the head, acts as padding & covers the neck with mail. Under that we have the padded gambelson. This is about .25 to .5 inches of padding to lessen the force of the blows. Below that is a cotton tunic , trousers & thick boots. Below those are some basic boxer type briefs ( also cotton )
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@gtargirl (5376)
• United States
20 Feb 09
OH, and a great answer. Thanks so much. I guess the only thing I'm surprised about is the boxer type briefs. This is perfect info though. Thanks again.
@uath13 (8192)
• United States
20 Feb 09
BTW...cotton is a modern local supplement. Linen or wool would have been used during those periods.
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@uath13 (8192)
• United States
20 Feb 09
That also depends on the period & were tied with a drawstring.
@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
19 Feb 09
seems to me they had things like long johns on probably made of wol . Be that itched!
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@gtargirl (5376)
• United States
20 Feb 09
It would definitely keep them warm.
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@Lakota12 (42600)
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20 Feb 09
sure would!
@sierras236 (2739)
• United States
18 Feb 09
I would say nothing but I don't know if that fits in with your story. Of course, all that armor would chaff. LOL. He probably wore linen as another poster stated. As far as getting wounded it is possible if the blade slips in between his protective armor. Probably a shoulder wound or one near the top of his leg.
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@gtargirl (5376)
• United States
20 Feb 09
Chaff seems to be a problem. My knight will need some sort of underclothing for this story. I'll keep it G rated. Good point about the shoulder wound. Thanks, Sierras.
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@thorgrym (675)
• United States
20 Feb 09
Lots of padding. Full plate mail armor was made specifically to fit a given individual. Even a slight difference in body type would yield it unwearable by any other than the intended recipient. However, it still required a bit of padding to protect against harm from the armor itself. Have you ever hit a baseball with an aluminum bat? Feel the shock from the contact on the metal? Well, armor is no different. The padding was needed to couch the blows a little bit. Until the late 1500's, the knight would wear what was called an 'arming doublet' - a padded sort of jacket. This would have been worn under either chain or plate mail. During the 1600's, they more commonly wore a 'buff-coat' made of heavy, stiff leather. The best resource I have found - and it happens to be one of my favorite places to visit within a two hour drive from my house! - is Higgins Armory Museum. You can find out quite a bit at http://www.higgins.org
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@gtargirl (5376)
• United States
20 Feb 09
Awesome, Thor!!! You are going to make me sound good. Thanks for the link too. I'll be checking it out.
@uath13 (8192)
• United States
20 Feb 09
Well if I'd have seen yours I wouldn't have written so much in my response... Good answer.
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19 Feb 09
Here is an interesting website describing the Knight of the Crusades. http://www.chronique.com/Kids/crusader.htm Anora
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@gtargirl (5376)
• United States
20 Feb 09
Ah, thanks Anora. Your name sounds like something right out of Middle Earth? Thanks for the link, I've bookmarked it.
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20 Feb 09
LOL, thanks. It's my pagan name, and I suppose now that I give it thought it does sound a tad Elven doesn't it. I'm glad the link helped. Anora
@AnythngArt (3302)
• United States
19 Feb 09
I would suspect linen, but surely there are historical sites where you can do research about this sort of thing. I think with writing historical novels, half the time revolves around research of just this sort. Horrible for the writer, but interesting for us readers. Good luck with your research...and your writing.
@gtargirl (5376)
• United States
20 Feb 09
Yes, sometimes the research feels like a waste of time. But I know it's very necessary. A little help from my MyLot friends makes it sweeter.
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@arkaf61 (10881)
• Canada
3 Jul 09
mostly linen I would say. Linen undershirt for sure. And if I'm not mistaken the medieval bries as underwear. If I remember correctly they would wear some sort of padding underneath the armor,both for the body and legs. But no matter what.. yeah they would still get wounded. Sometimes trough gaps in the armor or trough places where they joint, often in parts that were exposed. I guess a good blade really works .
@p1kef1sh (45681)
18 Feb 09
Flax or linen. Not cotton because it wasn't grown over here. Poor people (so not a knight by definition) may have had to wear wool next to their skin. Itchy! I wonder also if they wore calf/sheepskin underclothing.
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@gtargirl (5376)
• United States
20 Feb 09
Thanks, I've jotted it down--flax or linen. I'll check on the calf or sheepskin also. Thanks again.
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