Why do republicans hate Obama so much?
By lilnono
@lilnono (228)
United States
14 responses
@lilwonders456 (8214)
• United States
22 Feb 09
I do not hate him. Personally I do not know him as a person. He probly is a nice guy. But I do not like his policies. But to be honest I do not like McCain either. I have issues with both of the parties. I do not agree with the democrats. And the republicans have forgotten how to be fiscally responsible and believe in small government.. Neither party is a good thing right now.
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@Troublegum (641)
• United States
22 Feb 09
Well Obama has accomplished a lot. He has spent about 8 trillion dollars and one would hope that 8 trillion dollars would accomplish something. The question is if what he has accomplished is worth anything. It somehow sits weird that he can spend more of our money in the name of us having more money, but hey lets not discount the accomplishment. We will be poor for decades.
@Latrivia (2878)
• United States
22 Feb 09
It's not what he hasn't accomplished, it's what he has accomplished. I wouldn't say republicans hate Obama, though I'm sure some of them do. However, quite a few republicans are dissatisfied with the things Obama has managed to do in so little time. Allowing trillions to be spent which further drags our country down into debt is not exactly some people's idea of a good accomplishment. That's just a small sample of dissatisfaction with the guy. It's not just republicans this dislike the way he's running things, either, so let's not pin this all on a single group of people.
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@stealthy (8181)
• United States
22 Feb 09
I'm a conservative which means I usually vote Republican. I don't hate Obama, certainly not like so many Democrats hate Bush. I am against a lot of Obama's policies, especially the ones where he, in effect, has been led by Pelosi. As a conservative I am against big government and the waste and corruption that almost always seems to go along with it. The so called stimulus package is full of such things such as billions for Acorn which at best is an organiztion designed to register mainly Democratic Party voters and at worst serves to generate fake voter registrations and pay people to do that as is evidenced by be many scandals in many states that surround this orginaztion. There are so many projects in the package that will only generate very short term jobs if that. There are others that will grow government and create many opportunities for waste. As far as Clinton goes, I think she would have been much worse and I really prefer Obama to her. Was McCain my idea choice, no. Unfortunately, the Republican Party really had no good choice of a person to run for this last election
@lilnono (228)
• United States
22 Feb 09
Thanks for the response. I worked for Acorn before. I think the leadership of the organization has their hearts in the right place but paying homeless people to get as many voter registrations as possible is bound to backfire. A lot of people are really naive about the laws in this country. When I was working for them about 105 of the people i approached offered to fill out phony voters registration cards just to help me get more money. I always declined by telling them I could get 5 years in jail if they did that. Most people scoffed at the idea thinking that there was no way of being caught.
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
22 Feb 09
I do not hate the man! I don't even dislike him, I think he's a good guy with a beautiful family that will be an asset in the White House. Michele will certainly make a fine first lady and it's so good to see children there again!
I disagree with his policies and frankly, he scares me because he's leaning towards socialism. But I am giving him a chance and I sincerely hope he turns out to be the man this nation needs right now. I didn't want McCain either, I was sick of seeing old rich white men run the country!! But Mr. Obama isn't doing such a good job right now. New presidents make mistakes, I will wait and see how he does. I believe that he is sincerely trying to do what it best for this country.
I also have doubts that he is a U.S. citizen and that disturbs me. But I don't hate or dislike him for those doubts.
I do NOT like that he has appointed tax cheats in his cabinet but that's just a disagreement with his policies.
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
22 Feb 09
As far as I know, nobody's seen any birth certificate except one that was a poor copy of the original and not thought valid. When he went to school in Indonesia as a child, there was a policy that no foreigners could attend but only natural born citizens. That's what makes me doubt. He hasn't even disclosed his college transcripts like Mr. Gore and Mr. Bush, Mr. & Mrs. Clinton did. The secrecy bothers me. There have also been several lawsuits brought to the Supreme Court on this matter and the justices refuse to hear them.
But he was elected so I'll support him until he proves unfit for office or until someone comes up with proof that he's not a natural born citizen. T
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@jonesy123 (3948)
• United States
22 Feb 09
Hate is a too strong of a word, don't you think? Dislike might be proper. And less of the person but of his politics and his political agenda. If you pay close attention, that has been criticized during his campaign, president-elect time, and now as president. It's not about accomplishments. He indeed doesn't have many.
The argument 'give him a chance he hasn't been in office for that long yet' doesn't exactly fly. People have the right to criticize what they think isn't the political or financial route this country should take and what Obama's take is on this. That would have been the same no matter who would have been in office especially in these times. If critics would be quiet and just swallow the kool-aid, how would the government and beloved Obama know that people don't agree (not that he listened since the majority of citizens seem to not like the stimulus package but he signed it anyway)? Why should critics be quiet when it was okay to voice their concerns when other Presidents took office? Just because it's Obama?
Besides, first it was, give him a chance he isn't even elected yet, then it was, give him a chance he isn't even president yet, now it's, give him a chance he hasn't even been in office for 100 days yet... what will it be after that? I think he had plenty of chances. He campaigned for over two years. People know where he stands and what he wants to do and accomplish during his term as President. Because of the times being tough people are more than ever concerned about what is going on in Washington and what Obama will do and is doing as President. Criticism comes with the territory. If he can't stand the heat, he shouldn't be there. Ever wonder why they all have gray hair and have aged significantly when their term is over? It ain't easy to be President. You can't please everybody and critics are usually louder than the praise-singers, even for Obama.
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@lilnono (228)
• United States
22 Feb 09
So far 6 responses and nobody hates Obama. I guess I had you republicans pegged all wrong. I've been to some websites where the people had some absolutely horrible and disgusting things to say about Obama and his family that didn't even make any sense. Sometimes it will be a discussion that's only slightly related to national politics and someone will just jump in and start calling Obama the anti-Christ. I guess they must be independents.
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
23 Feb 09
The websites you went to were probably filled with hateful extremists. People like that are not too common on mylot and the ones that do come here eventually get banned for excessive foul language or personal attacks on other members. I can assure you, disgusting people like that are on both sides. Just look at The Obama Forum which actually claims to be the "Official" forum for Obama supporters.
http://theobamaforum.com/
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@laglen (19759)
• United States
22 Feb 09
I am a Conservative and so didn't really care for McCain. Never liked Clinton either. I do not hate these men as I do not hate Obama. My issue is what they want to /are doing to the country I love. I believe strongly in this country and our rights. I believe the best thing for government to do for us, is get out of our way. We have a very winning spirit in America. We can do anything and want to until you take away our reward for success. I will NOT work twice as hard so that somebody who doesn't want to work can sit on their butts. I will sit around as well and enjoy the "redistribution of wealth". If these socialistic policies are so great, why don't people move to the countries that already practice this. There are still people here who believe that with hard work and determination, in America, you CAN succeed.
@irisheyes (4370)
• United States
22 Feb 09
It seems that those of us who voted for him are just saying "Give the guy and his policies a chance" while the other side is flaunting the fact that he hasn't changed the world in 30 days. Then, they say that we are expecting too much. Who's being unrealistic here?
I don't know about McCain but I actually think the negativity would be a lot worse if Mrs. Clinton had won. They don't like Obama but they really despised Hillary.
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
23 Feb 09
I think people are more concerned about the changes he HAS made in the last 30 days such as the stimulus and appointing tax cheats. Just my opinion.
I do believe that you are correct about Hillary. Some people really do hate her. I remember that even democrats were acting like SHE was the bad guy when Bill cheated on her in the 90's. I can't tell you how many times I heard people say "I'd cheat too if I was married to that".
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@Latrivia (2878)
• United States
23 Feb 09
Actually, I haven't heard anyone complaining about what he hasn't done. Like I said in my response to this thread, the complaints are about what he HAS done. I'm wondering where people keep getting this "he hasn't changed the world in 30 days" stuff, because I sure haven't heard those complaints.
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
22 Feb 09
I don't know what it is, for some of them it's gone far beyond the usual ideological differences. The extremists on the right such as Alan Keyes have even gone so far as to refuse to call him their President. Also, House Republicans vowed, sight unseen, to vote against the stimulus bill. I think if Hillary Clinton were President right now she'd be going through the same kind of thing only they'd be using different reasons to hate her. For the record, I'm not saying all Republicans hate Obama but there are certainly some of the most vocal ones who certainly seem to.
Annie
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@irisheyes (4370)
• United States
23 Feb 09
What gets me about this whole Alan Keyes thing is that people seem to think he is an impeccable source. The guy lost a chance at a senate seat and a chance to become the first African American president to Barack Obama. How unbiased can he he be?
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
23 Feb 09
"The extremists on the right such as Alan Keyes have even gone so far as to refuse to call him their President."
That's nothing new. I heard that from extremists on the left for the last 8 years.
"Also, House Republicans vowed, sight unseen, to vote against the stimulus bill."
Annie, the democrats voted sight unseen FOR the stimulus bill. I'd much prefer those who vote against something they haven't read than those who blindly vote FOR something they haven't read, especially when it's 1071 pages long.
"What gets me about this whole Alan Keyes thing is that people seem to think he is an impeccable source. The guy lost a chance at a senate seat and a chance to become the first African American president to Barack Obama. How unbiased can he he be?"
Well he's never claimed to be unbiased. He's a republican and he's run for president several times as a republican. Losing the senate seat really didn't mean much since he entered the race VERY late when Obama's opponent dropped out. He basically pulled a Hillary Clinton by running in a state that he hadn't even lived in. He's intelligent enough to know he never had a chance at the presidency. His resume was too thin and he'd never held ANY elected office.
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@morethanamolehill (1586)
• United States
28 Feb 09
Thanks taskr for saying what is so obvious to most of us thinking people, But anniepa will continue to ignore the facts so she can continue to argue based on ideology alone.
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
22 Feb 09
It's not a matter of hate for me. I just don't think he's right for the job. I'd like to see him do well, but I'm not happy with much of what he's done. I think he has been dishonest and hypocritical so far. He campaigned heavily on a promise to avoid the influence of lobbyists. He swore that they would find no place in his administration yet he's already appointed several. He promised change in Washington yet his cabinet appointments have primarily been former Clinton appointees mixed with tax cheats.
The stimulus is currently his biggest achievement. Now I disagree with his methods of stimulating the economy, but that's not what upsets me about it. I'm upset because he played on fear to push this through. Rather than the "Yes we can" attitude he had during the campaign, he's preached doom and gloom to buy time in case the stimulus fails. Psychology is a bigger part of this recession than most people realize and even Bill Clinton said he needs to show more optimism.
I also think he should have done a better job of managing his own party in congress to weed out the pork in the stimulus bill. Instead, he attacked and mocked republicans for objecting to the pork and calling it a spending bill. It went against the bipartisanship he preached during his campaign.
I don't hate him, I'm just upset with him. I wanted him to surprise me and he didn't. The only thing he does seem to be doing ok with is Afghanistan, but that's going to be an ongoing situation.
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@us2owls (1681)
• United States
22 Feb 09
I do not hate Obama. I am a registered Republican but I do not vote along party lines - I take a close look at the candidates and vote my instincts. I was happy that Obama beat Hillary Clinton, I was not too happy with the Republicans choice for President. I seriously considered voting for Obama but as the campaign went o and things began to surface about him then I changed my mind. I have been willing to give him a chance but things have happened since his inauguration that have made me think. One of the things that changed me was his refusal to provide an legal birth certificate. As an immigrant who went through all the proper channels, provided all the necessary paperwork it annoys me that we now have a President that seemingly has something to hide and has done everything possible to not provide the paperwork that would prove people wrong and that he has nothing to hide. My oldest daughter was born in the UK - her father was in the US military serving in the UK at the time of her birth. She was born in a Britosh Hospital. Her father and I both provided all the necessary papers to the US Embassy in Liverpool - I made many trips to the Embassy taking my baby daughter and she was registered there as a US citizen and was issued a US passport. If I could do it why can't Obama.
Last June I married my second husband who is British - he wants to move to the USA with me and live. Well the paperwork and stuff we have to go through to get him a residents visa is once again going to be a hassle - not to mention if we do it in the UK how many trips we will have to make to London to get it sorted. He is asking for nothing - he has an income so you can imagine my disgust when Oba,as illegal immigrant Aunt from Kenya, who incidentally is drawing welfare frok the IS is seated amiongst the dignitaries at his inauguration. Why - if he has honesty and decency doesn't he get her shipped back to Kenya and if she wants to come back to America do it legally like my husband is trying to do.
Now his stimulus - the billions that he put in there for ACORN - which by all accounts is one of the most illegal groups there is and its main process seems to be thounsands and thousands of illegal voter registrations. He needs to pull the plug on them.
His first 100 days leave a lot to be desired - he needs to get his head out of the sand - provide the papers to prove his citizenship if he is legal or not - let the INS deport his illegal Aunt - and have the Congress and Senate change the stimulus and then him to sign it stopping the money for ACORN.
RANT OVER
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@lilnono (228)
• United States
22 Feb 09
Thank you for your thoughtful response. Regarding Obama's citizenship I think you may be suffering from disinformation overload.
There are a lot of people who say he has produced a birth certificate Why would they lie. I know that some judges are corrupt but that's a lot of corruption. 9 lawsuits and they have all been dismissed. Why would the courts refuse to hear such a potentially important case unless there was absolutely no evidence that these allegations were true? What grounds do the people saying Obama's birth certificate is a forgery have for saying that. You can't just believe something because somebody said it. You can't get a drivers license or a passport without a birth certificate? You also have to show one to enroll in school. I don't see how he could have gotten this far without anyone noticing that his birth certificate was fake.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/aug/28/lawsuit-questions-obamas-eligability-for-office/
http://foolocracy.com/2008/11/a-conspiracy-that-wont-die-alan-keyes-sues-to-prove-that-obama-is-not-a-us-citizen/
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/dec/16/court-rejects-obama-citizenship-lawsuit/
The people who keep saying he hasn't produced a birth certificate seem to be asking him to go to the department of health and turn over his original birth certificate that the department keeps on file. he would be crazy to do that. If he turns over the master copy of his birth certificate to his political enemies they could destroy it and he really wouldn't have a birth certificate.
Where's the evidence that he really spent all this money to have his records sealed. Personal records like birth certificates are always sealed automatically. you can't just go get some public figures birth certificate. If you don't believe the links I have posted or if I typed them wrong and they don't work you can always call the Hawaii Dept of health and ask. A lot of people have done that already.
@Pose123 (21635)
• Canada
22 Feb 09
Hi lilnono, I think that some of it may be jealousy, Obama is very popular and also he don't subscribe to many of their views. Obama is all about change and some people have it so good now that they hate the idea of change. I believe that even the republicans will not be able to go back to their old ways now. Blessings.
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@lampar (7584)
• United States
22 Feb 09
Obama just won the presidential election recently, that will definitely earn him some hates from republicans, and also they are jealous of Obama's popularity in many countries that make republican oldies feeling insecure since he is able to use that goodwill to the advantage of USA.
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18 Feb 10
Republicans hate Obama because he beat them in the election. They are still 'buttsore' from their loss of the election that they will do anything to stop him--including being 100% partisan in opposing his policies.
It stems deeper however. With the advent of 'No Child Left Behind,' the Republicans had begun a long-term plan to dominate the White House for good. The plan was to slow down education (to the slowest student in each class's level) so that the general populace becomes poorly educated, and thus more likely to believe and support Republican lies, fear-mongering, and policy control. We all know that more education (college) can lead to a higher likelihood of liberalism--because knowledge is power. By limiting the populace's access to this education and ensuring that public education is likewise as poor, they have set in motion a long-term plan to develop a serious core constituency.
The Republican plan to 'dumb-down' Americans so that they are more easily controlled was somewhat foiled by Obama's election victory. Not completely however, as they are currently being 100% partisan and would likely enjoy seeing the economy crumble further so that it can be blamed on Obama, even if the Republicans themselves are actually the cause.