Do I have the right to discipline her?
By maple_kisses
@maple_kisses (2156)
Philippines
February 24, 2009 6:10am CST
She isn't my child, she is my sister's daughter. I'm trying to help discipline the child. Make her see she's growing up and therefore learn the difference between bad and good. When her parents or her grandparents cannot discipline her, I wanna help and try. Do I have the right? Or should I just turn my back and pretend I don't see the evil things she do? Or should my baby and I move out of this house so there's no way for me to see the child and how she's living her life and making everybody around her miserable?
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16 responses
@Ravenladyj (22902)
• United States
24 Feb 09
you ONLY have the right to discipline her if the mother/parents say its okay..otherwise no you can't...
I have to ask, what is the mother like? how old is this child? has she ALWAYS been hard to handle?
@Ravenladyj (22902)
• United States
24 Feb 09
There is a second thread on this child?? I'll have to check that one out too....
@maple_kisses (2156)
• Philippines
24 Feb 09
My sister has been a headache to my parents when she was younger but she wasn't as bad as her daughter now. The child is just 4, but eversince she learned to walk, she has done some bad deeds that nobody can't believe she can do. So yes, she's always been very hard to handle.
@wonttakelong (3555)
• United States
24 Feb 09
I do agree raven that it may be something deeper but at the age the child is it would be very difficult getting a doctor to effectively diagnose the problem
from everything I have read between this discussion and another I can see that the child's mother is not consistant
the child clearly has a high energy level and needs structure
i dont think she is getting the structure that she needs
@wonttakelong (3555)
• United States
24 Feb 09
what sort of "evil" things is the child doing?
without knowing details I would say that your first step should be talking to the child's parents
then if that doesnt work you may have to take matters into your own hands because that childs behavior will at some point influence YOUR childs behavior
disciplining other peoples' kids can be a slippery slope
if the situation gets too out of hand you may find it in your (and your baby's) best interest to find other living arrangments
@maple_kisses (2156)
• Philippines
24 Feb 09
That's what I'm afraid of, that my baby might be influenced with her bad deeds....
Well, the child does everything that drives everybody around her crazy everyday, like smearing paint all over the house, ripping out all the pages of the books she can get her hands on, throwing other people's stuff in bodies of water, throwing and destroying other people's stuff, hurting other children when their Mom isn't looking, shouting (something like "I hope you die") and running everytime she's caught and might be disciplined, etc., etc. And she's doing this every single day. No matter how much you ask her and talk to her gently, no matter how much everybody in the house wanted her to change, or no matter how much you discipline her physically, she's still bound to do her evil deeds everyday. Her mother (my sister) is losing her wits too.
@wonttakelong (3555)
• United States
24 Feb 09
the child is NOT evil
the child's mother is ALLOWING that behavior
dont blame the child blame her mother
since you are not the child's mother and the mother wont let you discipline the child there may be little you can do for her
you need to look out for you and your little baby
I wish you all the luck with this
HUGS
@Ravenladyj (22902)
• United States
24 Feb 09
[i]the child's mother is ALLOWING that behavior
dont blame the child blame her mother [/i]
not necessarily...it could be something far deeper than an unattentive parent ya know....
@cripfemme (7698)
• United States
25 Feb 09
I just became an aunt on New Year's Eve. If my little niece behaved like this I would say something and at least try to regulate her behavior around you and your kid, so you child doesn't pick up bad habits.
@Vladilyich1 (1454)
• Canada
4 Mar 09
Very honestly, I'd stay out of it. You will only get yourself condemned for interfering. I think something should be done, but you need to stay away for your own good.
@trillan_20 (183)
• Canada
25 Feb 09
Girl I know what your feeling. My sister in law has 2 very unpleasant children. Although I love my niece and nephew, I feel like im yelling at them more than actually being the fun aunt i want to be. Not to say that my children are perfect by any means, but i dont need them learning anything else to make me tick. As far as disciplining her, if she is doing something wrong and you see it, then yes you absolutely should say something to her and maybe give her a time out, never put your hands on someone elses child, but definately make it known that she was doing something wrong. Especially when your daughter is seeing what she is doing, by not disciplining her it makes your daughter think that she can also get away with doing those things. Good luck!
@ladybuglvr316 (3)
• United States
25 Feb 09
There is an old saying, "it takes a village to raise a child". I think any adult in the house hold has not only a right, but a responsibility to the children to help raise them. I would expect any member of my family to treat my kids as they would their own. If I don't see what they are doing, and they do, then of course I want them to correct their behavior.
@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
24 Feb 09
Why not, as an aunty and living under one roof, I think you should share part of the responsibility in instilling good behaviour to your niece. I would welcome such kind of help from any of my siblings to reprimand my kids if they behave badly in my absence. You just cannot close one eye and let the child believe that her action is right when it is obviously in the wrong. As a matured person and more so an aunt,you have the right as part of the family and no one should take sides if you are going to discipline her. Don't leave unless you mom as you to leave. It is just a small family matter and can be settled amicably within the family.
@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
24 Feb 09
Is this a disagreement between you and your sister or haven't you asked her. If she doesn't want you to discipline her child, you probably don't have the right to no matter how much you might disagree.
@apples99 (6556)
• United States
24 Feb 09
Well my sister is having her first kid, and I dont think ill have to much difficulty in deciding what way to discipline the child because me and my sister think a lot alike, and we had the same kind of discipline as children from our parents so I think we both will have similar discipline methods over all, but I do feel that, the mother largely has the right to discipline the child, and if I were babysitting I would consult the mother before discipline the child and before even agreeing to watch the child my sister and I would have to come to a clear understanding that if he or she misbehaves at my house that she will be discipline.
@lynnemg (4529)
• United States
24 Feb 09
I think that if you are all living in the same house, you should all work together with the children. If your sister is against you helping her, not taking her place or over-stepping your bounds, but helping her in a constructive manner with her child, than I would move out if I were you. You have to do what is i the best interest of your own child. If moving out feels like the best decision, do it. If your sister will allow you to help her, lend her a hand, but always remember that she is that child's parent and you have to respect her wished when it comes to her child.
If youdo move out, make it a point to go visit once in a while. Your sister;s child needs to know that you do love her, no matter what. The last thing you want to do is allow her to feel like your oving is all her fault. She needs to know that your love is still there.
@Shekinah22 (20)
• United States
24 Feb 09
Hello,
Understanding your dilemma especially with living in someone else's home and having to discipline your own and seeing someone else's child getting away with murder is the hardest thing to endure when you know he or she needs discipline. What do the parents of the child say when you try and discipline their child. See if the parent interfers or doesn't want you or anyone else to discipline their child then your at a lost cause even though your intentions are mean't to help with the child, they don't want that. If on the other hand they allow it and it's not helping the child then either way you go there's really nothing you can do. I would just move out because obviously they don't want you to discipline their child and eventually your child is going to take on the same traits as this child and you don't want that.
@vijayanandp (682)
• India
24 Feb 09
well what you are doing is correct and you are trying to teach her what is good and bad in the world so well its good but as she is not your child so it depends on the child's parents also because you would like to keep her child in a disciplined way but their parents may not like it as you would even shout or slap the child as she is doing mistake and such things their parents may not like it which can create some differences but if they are ok with it then well what you are doing is well good or its better that you take care but also inform her parents what she is doing so that they also come to know and there is no difference between your relations
@Lore2009 (7378)
• United States
24 Feb 09
I think you have every right to discipline anyone, especially if you care and it is affecting you. You should even consult the parents too if you can but whether you do or you don't, this child is in your life and you care so you should.
@elysium (169)
• United States
25 Feb 09
You do have the right to discipline your sister's daughter. Adults have a major influence on children, and you should be one of those adults to her. You and your baby should not move out of the house in order to not see the child and her life. You need to help make sure she straightens out her attitude. If you did not have an influence on her or her life, she may not become a successful person in the future that she could have been. The only reason why you should not discipline her is if your sister or brother - in - law asks you not to interfere with their child's life. Anyways, I hope you are able to make the right decision.
@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
24 Feb 09
i think u have a right. i am not going to be around any child that i can't make mind. i don't care if the parents are there or not. they need to open their mouths & disipline their children. what i can't understand is why they don't. people don't like to be around children like that. i always wanted people to love my children & be glad to see them. you & nico need to get your own place as soon as u are able. hope u are feeling better. jo
@SusanLee (1920)
• United States
24 Feb 09
Hi maple,
Who are you and your child living with? Your sister or your parents?If you are all living with your parents, then they they need to set some ground rules for all of you.
I think the only thing wrong with this little girl is she has no boundaries, kids need structure and boundaries, they have to know where the line is drawn and that the consequences for crossing this line is going to be the same every time. No fuss, no muss just consistency.
Kids aren't stupid, even if they can't rationalize, they know how to work a situation to move in their favor.
For the sake of the child, (if you are all living with your parents)you all need to sit down and come up with a plan. If you are all in the same room, then mom needs to deal with the girl. If only grandpa is in the room, then he needs to deal with her bad behavior and not have someone come running from the other side of the house to interfere, if there are three of you in the room and one of the three isn't mom, then one needs to deal with the girl, not all three. You have to cut down on confusion.
It won't take her long to realize that everyone is on the same page and no one is going intervene on her behalf is she's misbehaving.
Everyone has to remember to give her lots of hugs and kisses and encouragement when she is behaving. Which can be hard to do when all you want to do is pinch her head off lol.
If the family can't get together and create a united front, then I would take my baby and find a new place to live. Life is too short to live in upheaval and confusion.
As for your child picking up bad behavior from other children, be prepared, it's going to happen, they are like sponges. They imitate what they see.
You have to set boundaries and consequences, just know your little one is going to do it and decide now how best to deal with it now.