Over 55? Lock em up!

@p1kef1sh (45681)
February 24, 2009 1:44pm CST
The UK doesn't have many gated communities expressly designed for senior citizens. However, I just saw a programme about a former holiday camp (like Guantanamo only with enforced "good times") that has been turned into a gated compound; er, luxury housing, for the over 55s. I know that the US has several such sites. The houses are luxury, there's plenty to do and they have 24/7 guarding. This isn't my idea of heaven, but I do see the appeal. Would you consider living in such a place. Do you live there in fact?
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@polachicago (18716)
• United States
24 Feb 09
No, I don't consider living in gated community with people at the same age. I wish to always be able to be around diversity. I wish to have kids, young, middle age and older people around. That is the only healthy solution... HUGS
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@polachicago (18716)
• United States
25 Feb 09
I couldn't agree with you more...
@p1kef1sh (45681)
24 Feb 09
I think that is a very healthy view. I like people my own age, but I like to have some variety too. It's like living in an old age ghetto.
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@bellaofchaos (11538)
• United States
24 Feb 09
I don't mind a gated community it's harder for thieves and what not(but I'm such an individual I don't think that I would thrive) .. But It depends on the gated community ..Currently I don't live in a gated community .. But when I lived in Texas our apartment complex was gated and then when we went to the town house it wasn't But the apartment complex when I lived thier had little crime and was nice and beautiful to live at. Ofcourse about over 18-20 yrs later, since I was in single digits when I lived in the apartment, I have no clue what type of apartment complex it is. LOL!! But back to a gated community it depends on the individual and the rules of the gated community ..
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
25 Feb 09
I think that you are right abut the rules etc Bella. I am sure that if it is well run then you can feel safe and lead a very productive life. But you have to leave the security of the community to experience it fully I think.
@laglen (19759)
• United States
24 Feb 09
I would rather have a shack in the woods. But I think these do sserve their purpose. I am very active in the community and look forward to finishing out my days as a hermit.
@p1kef1sh (45681)
24 Feb 09
A friend of ours has a brother that lives in a shack in the woods. He's been mayor of his local town twice and is very active in the local community. Happy hermiting!
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• United States
24 Feb 09
Sure I would not mind living in such a place if someone else could pay the fees/rent. Here in the US these type of senior housing facilities are very expensive.
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
24 Feb 09
They didn't say how much it all costs. But it won't be cheap that's for sure.
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@mummymo (23706)
25 Feb 09
I saw a bit of that too honey and whilst I can sort of see the good points to it I think it would be my idea of hell rather than heaven! Surely mixing with all sorts of people from lots of social backgrounds and age groups is much more interesting than being with only our own generation where no one younger is allowed to live? Sound more like an extended Nursing home than anything else! xxx
@mummymo (23706)
25 Feb 09
Sounds awful doesn't it? Tell you what when you get too old to live alone just move up here beside me and weemam and we can all look after each other! lol Hugs xxxx
@p1kef1sh (45681)
25 Feb 09
It does sound like an extended nursing home. They really are waiting for God. I felt that they had to be seen having a good time. After all, they'd probably paid enough for it.
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
24 Feb 09
I would never live in such a place if I had a choice! When I lived in Arizona there was a place called Sun City and it was huge. They passed a law that nobody under 18 could be in their city after a certain hour unless they had business there like a job. Those old folks were so scared of young people it was creepy. I like to live in a place with a lot of different ages, races and cultures. It makes it much more lively and interesting!
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
24 Feb 09
That's one of the problems. Thee places make it nice and cosy and the folks that live there withdraw from society to the point where they can become frightened of everyday stuff. On the other hand, They can go the same way dribbling in an old folks care home
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@nannacroc (4049)
28 Feb 09
I don't thimk I'd like to be imprisoned for the 'crime' of being old. I would hate this. However it may come soon as the alternative to being shot once you're 30, the way this country is going they will soon take away our freedom to age as well as all the other things, such as eating what we want, kissing where we want,freedom of speech, etc. Hadn't we used to lve in a democracy? Maybe that was something I dreamed.
@p1kef1sh (45681)
28 Feb 09
Democracy. I believe that is a prohibited word Nanna and you will have to be sent in for reprogramming. You must be careful what you say. There are ears everywhere. I will get the thought control Commissar to call you at home tomorrow evening to discuss the matter.
@gabs8513 (48686)
• United Kingdom
24 Feb 09
No I do not think I would and definatly not at 55 that is still to young to hide away lol maybe at 80 I would consider it but not before I hope lol
@gabs8513 (48686)
• United Kingdom
24 Feb 09
Awwww thank you how did you guess xxxx
@p1kef1sh (45681)
24 Feb 09
Well that's about 55 years to wait then Gabs. What are you now, 25? XXXX
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@suehan1 (4344)
• Australia
26 Feb 09
these sorts of places are taking over here in australia,especially around where i live on the coast,the nicer ones cost a arm and a leg for anything decent.i don't think i could live in one as you seem to be living on top of each other and i certainly need my privacy,but each to their own.i suppose if your lonely these sorts of places would be ideal and then the security is good as well.i do a lot of house calls on patients who live in these sorts of places,and it drives me insane trying to get through the boom gates and every one is watching you,peeping out tjeir curtains.give me that stretch of beach anytime.cheers sue
@p1kef1sh (45681)
26 Feb 09
I think that you do lose some privacy. As you say, all those twitching curtains. "I see Mr Bloggs has that young woman visiting him again. It's not his daughter because she was up at the weekend. With her boy. You know the blond haired one. Oooh, she's got a bag. I wonder what she's got in there....etc" eh Sue? LOL.
@littleowl (7157)
25 Feb 09
Well I am thankful I haven't reached that age yet, and definitley don't feel like being 'locked' up each day!! No in one word I wouldn't want to live in a place like that even though my children have me booked into the funny farm when the time comes..yet maybbe the luxury house might appeal then not only to me but to my children rather than the clinical smell of the funny farm!!! hugs LoLo
@littleowl (7157)
25 Feb 09
That would be fun p1ke at least we could have some laughs at the same time! lol hugs LoLo
@p1kef1sh (45681)
25 Feb 09
Can we have next door rooms in the funny farm LoLO. I shall need a friend. LOL. I see some attractions, but I would feel kind of cut off I think.
@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
24 Feb 09
Don't like the idea. Maybe I"ll warm up to it when I'm older. Especially if I am by myself...
@p1kef1sh (45681)
24 Feb 09
Maybe they should buy several miles of coastline and put one house every mile. I might buy into it then!
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
24 Feb 09
Ooh - I'm there. Can the coastline be in Hawaii?
@GreenMoo (11833)
28 Feb 09
I think that would be my idea of hell. I wouldn't object to the luxury housing, or to the plenty to do, but being locked in with a bunch of people who thought that living in a gated compound was the way forward would have me climbing the barbed wire. The Big Brother house comes to mind!
@p1kef1sh (45681)
28 Feb 09
Agreed. I do see how it might be an attractive idea for some. But not me. I wouldn't mind a gate at the end of our road though. The boy racers use it as a cut through to avid the traffic jam on the main road in the morning.
@Vladilyich1 (1454)
• Canada
4 Mar 09
There are many such "gated communities" in America. They're mostly set up for security and to prevent salesmen. They are more expensive that standard flats, but the security is worth it. Many will even have cafeterias and food stores on the property.
@p1kef1sh (45681)
4 Mar 09
Don't the inhabitants slowly cut themselves off from society and real life though? Security is one , very important thing, but of it is at the cost of "normality" then I would regard that as something to think very hard about. Each to their own though.
@Humbug25 (12540)
24 Feb 09
Hi there p1kef1sh I don't think I qualify to respond to your discussion p1key and I am not sure you qualify to start it either!! Anyway I will have a go anyway as I am here!! LOL I think I would feel cut off from the world if I lived in such a place and would also feel like a prisoner in my own surroundings so I would have to say that it doesn't hold any appeal to me at all!
@p1kef1sh (45681)
24 Feb 09
I'm not quite old enough Humbug. But I'm close enough to think about it! I agree with you. However, the folk there seemed to be having a good time and were making friends.
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@Humbug25 (12540)
24 Feb 09
Yeah and wouldn't you get fed up of seeing the same old faces day in and day out too?
@mtdewgurl74 (18151)
• United States
26 Feb 09
You don't like Sunshine Acres? No I don't live in such a place and 99 percent sure I never will. It is to costly. I guess it is the feeling of security they get from living in places like that. I know my mom would probably love it because she is a people person.
@p1kef1sh (45681)
26 Feb 09
My objection is that you only see people your own age. There's no real diversity in age group. I understand that for many elderly people loneliness is a major factor and perhaps living in such a community does address that Becky.
• United States
25 Feb 09
Well, here in the U.S. a lot of people do put their parents in retirement homes. My mother and I did not put my grandmother in a retirement home when she got older, she decided to put herself there, we didn't want her to go.
@p1kef1sh (45681)
25 Feb 09
Retirement homes are different. This is like a private housing estate for folk over the age of 55. You only get to go there if you are fit and rich enough.
• United States
25 Feb 09
I was wrenched out of hibernation, see my history. Pike i find your reference racist, intolerable. You know I love you. There are not many of us that would have gone to sleep knowing that people are tortured. She came from providence, The one in rhode island Where the old world shadows hang Heavy in the air She packed her hopes and dreams Like a refugee Just as her father came across the sea She heard about a place people were smilin They spoke about the red mans way, And how they loved the land And they came from everywhere To the great divide Seeking a place to stand Or a place to hide Down in the crowded bars, Out for a good time, Cant wait to tell you all, What its like up there And they called it paradise I dont know why Somebody laid the mountains low While the town got high Then the chilly winds blew down Across the desert Through the canyons of the coast, to The malibu Where the pretty people play, Hungry for power To light their neon way And give them things to do Some rich men came and raped the land, Nobody caught em Put up a bunch of ugly boxes, and jesus, People bought em And they called it paradise The place to be They watched the hazy sun, sinking in the sea You can leave it all behind And sail to lahaina Just like the missionaries did, so many years ago They even brought a neon sign: jesus is coming Brought the white mans burden down Brought the white mans reign Who will provide the grand design? What is yours and what is mine? cause there is no more new frontier We have got to make it here We satisfy our endless needs and Justify our bloody deeds, In the name of destiny and the name Of god And you can see them there, On sunday morning They stand up and sing about What its like up there They call it paradise I dont know why You call someplace paradise, Kiss it goodbye
@p1kef1sh (45681)
25 Feb 09
I am confused Angel. You OK?
@bhanusb (5709)
• India
25 Feb 09
That will be a ideal place for the senior citizens. OldĀ  persons feel loneliness.Actually the young people avoid the elderly persons.If the old people can live together in a good atmosphere they will forget their loneliness.But these places must not be costly.Why are you telling about Guantanamo?This is a torture center.When you say about Guantanamo a horror picture comes to my eyes.
@p1kef1sh (45681)
25 Feb 09
That's excatly my point Bhansub. Old fashioned English holiday camps were like military camps - without the thumbscrews.
@CRIVAS (1815)
• Canada
25 Feb 09
I think that if I had no other options this would be something I would consider. I am not too happy about the idea of 24 hour supervision, I guess it just sounds a little more like an old folks prision that a retirement home. I am not too sure though, I really would have to have no other options and I have to say that if I had an elderly relative, I don't think that I would put them in that home either. I understand that they have plenty to keep them busy but it still seems a little too restrictive for my tastes. Happy mylotting.
@p1kef1sh (45681)
25 Feb 09
From the perspective of someone who is active and healthy I find little to attract me. Although I can see some positives for such places. Right now though; I'm with you on this.
• China
25 Feb 09
I do consider living in a place like that,although it seems too far at this moment.I think maybe there are many peaple want to live that way.
@p1kef1sh (45681)
25 Feb 09
There certainly are. But not me. At least I don't feel like that yet. Welcome to myLot.