Do you support the loans to the big three?
By dreambark
@dreambark (135)
United States
March 4, 2009 4:29pm CST
I'm proud to be an american, I try to purchase american made goods whenever possible. I know it's difficult to do because of all the imports coming into the country. I know the goods are cheaper and most of us need to save money, but in the long run is that really the best way to go? I support the governments decision to loan the big three loans, now they need to remove the very individuals who are making those companies fail. The upper management of those large companies obviously do not know what they are doing so why do they continue to be rewareded. The same can be said for the housing industry and the insurance industry who continue to recieve tax payer dollars. It is real easy to blame the hourly autoworker for making too much money, but you never hear about all the large salaries paid to executives. We do not see the news talk about the disparity in wages from the foreign auto company executives vs the big three. Or the home owner who is paying excessive loan payments, or the over inflated housing market. I could go on and on. Our economic standards continue to dwindle, no jobs, loss of property and now we are left to constantly wonder what is next.
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@belhaven14 (454)
• United States
6 Mar 09
I am not a big fan of the automakers bailout. I am glad that Ford is taking things into their own hands and not accepting any money. I think the best thing to do is to renegotiate with the unions. If that doesn't work, then file a chapter 11 and reorganize the company. What they are doing is obviously not working, so why give them more money? They will just burn through it and then stick their hand out again for more. I am not against paying executives large amounts of money, because they have great skills and responsibility. However, they have to deserve the big money that they receive. If your company is failing, you don't deserve it. I think the only way they will survive is to reorganize and reevaluate their business plans. Times are changing, but they are not. That is the problem. Hopefully they will get it together, because I don't want to see thousands of Americans lose their jobs.
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@belhaven14 (454)
• United States
6 Mar 09
That is interesting that the labor costs are that low. I would think they would be higher, but I haven't looked at their books so I wouldn't know. There are several ways they could cut costs. Cutting some of the benefits to workers would be the one of the easiests ways. I agree that you have to be careful with what you pay the executives, but if you look at the numbers I'd be willing to bet that the millions payed to executives are a very small percentage of costs. However, they shouldn't be even thinking about bonuses right now.
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@sysdexlicwriter (1619)
• United States
9 Mar 09
I worked as an executive secretary for one of the big three auto companies years ago. The offices run more efficiently than in any other offices I have worked in, and there have been numerous.
When I was employed with the car company, my boss reported to the future president. I do not think a person could begin to understand the level of expertise and responsibility that is required to run a large company and how important it is to have "the best," until you view it from a closer perspective. The pressure is enormous, the responsibility is beyond comprehension, hours are long, breaks don't exist when something needs to be done. The job comes first before anything else. It takes a special person to fill the role. Someone who is not looking for an eight-hour-a-day, forty-hour-a-week job. Yes, there are perks but it is all relative to how much is given up in order to fulfill such a role. They are responsible for thousands of workers. I could be wrong but I thought that at least one head executive is only taking $1 per year until this mess is straightened out.
I have seen the industry go through its ups and downs and this is definitely a down. The auto industry is woven through many states in the United States. One plant affects small businesses all over. There are banks, credit unions, mechanics, gas stations, material suppliers, schools, colleges, etc., just to name a few. When the car industry sinks, so do the businesses that are dependent on them.
We have ridden on a high for a good many of years. Prices keep going up, education keeps going down, somewhere there needs to be an adjustment. I do not know if what is being done will work to keep the economy going but it bothers me to see people without jobs. What a dilemma! How did we get here. Everyone has an opinion. It would be nice if we could all pull together in some way, I just don't know how.
I am not happy with all of the loans that are being made to numerous companies and the mounting debt we find ourselves in but I also do not want to see the American auto companies disappear.
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@dreambark (135)
• United States
9 Mar 09
I am a retire from the big three, and I spent 30 years in the shop. I am grateful for the wonderful life I was able to give my family, but I am also angry that everyone thinks its the auto worker and the unions that caused the issues in the Auto Industry. I would gladly work for a $1.00 a year if I received perks, stocks, and had made a huge salary for many years. The issue really is with how the Auto Industry is precieved in this country. I was shocked when I went to California, I could not believe the number of people who drive cars from foreign auto companies. Now I know many people will take offense to that statement and tell me that they have built plants over here which employee our citizens and they are right. They also take those massive profits and send a lot of them to there homeland. The other issue which is not taken into account is the executives do not make what our executives do, and the workers receive pretty close compensation in hourly wage. Where they really differ is the legacy cost of pensions.
I find it troubling that the bankrupcy laws were changed for the average citizen but when it comes to Corporations they remained the same. I am sickened by members of our Congress wanting GM to file bankrupcy to restructure. Essenntially what they are saying is its OK to hurt the thousands of employees who have worked for you and the creditors that trusted you would pay them. IT IS not allright. Nor is is allright that GM salary retires are expected to face a financial burden now that have been asked to leave in many instances. I believe the Auto Industry can turn around but not on one persons back.