BEGGING - Does it bother you to see people begging on the internet?
By Sergeantrom
@sergeantrom (5721)
United States
March 8, 2009 10:34am CST
It reminds me of those people that come up to your car with those cardboard signs saying "will work for food". I think its worse to beg on the internet. Why? Because you have to have SOME money to be on the internet. You need a computer, internet service, electricity. And please dont tell me you can go to a library and use a computer. To have a library card, you need identification. They dont just give out library cards anymore these days. I dont mind helping others but "begging" really gets under my skin. Its that whole "I want something for nothing" mentality.
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@kris182_2000 (5469)
• Canada
9 Mar 09
Actually nowadays you can go to a community center, a drop in center, or a welfare office to use a computer and not need id to do so. Resource centers as well have computers free to use. There are even some shelters that have computers for the residents to use.
So you can't say that you need money to use a computer. It's not always the case.
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@sergeantrom (5721)
• United States
10 Mar 09
I think you have to apply for those services at one time and then you have use of all the resources like computer at any time. At least thats how I remember most of the programs work. Your example may be true but its at represents that 1% of people that may be telling the truth. If someone is in that much trouble to find those types of services, then they wont be in that situation long. Those services are designed to assist people get back on their feet. They even turn out better off then where they started after getting help from those programs.
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@kris182_2000 (5469)
• Canada
10 Mar 09
But I used to use a community center computer, I didn't have to register to use it. You just signed up on any available time slot and started using it.
Same with any other place I went to. I used to not have home internet access even when I had a place to live.
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@rsa101 (38166)
• Philippines
9 Mar 09
You are right about that getting on the net does mean you have the money to spend to have access on the net. That is why I too am surprised that they could spend money on the net and they would beg for money. But if in cases like asking for help in the net because they need to have to for medical assistance and the like that may be possible because having treatments like this would mean that they really could nopt afford to pay for that.
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@sergeantrom (5721)
• United States
9 Mar 09
Not sure where you going with this post. But I think you are agreeing with me right?
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@justinus (1104)
• Karawaci, Indonesia
10 Mar 09
Hello, let me in. I think I dont mind because Im retired now and have much time online, but I was cheated from online making money (HYIP, duplication program, Typing at Home, etc around $500 and lost at forex online around $500), there are much scam also. I dont really understand what did you mean by "begging",was that including donation at some sites? Ok, lets forget it I just wanted to post. Happy myLoting anyway and see you. good luck.
@sergeantrom (5721)
• United States
10 Mar 09
Yes donating is a form of begging. If the cause is good enough, donating is ok. But donations to me, mean the company should be non profit. Why should we pay a company money for them to make money?
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@bdugas (3578)
• United States
9 Mar 09
At least the ones with the signs are willing to work for what you give them, but then can we trust them to take them to our home, working out in public would be alright. As for begging on the internet, how do ou kow the stories that people are giving you is true. I would not send money to anyone on the internet. If hey have internet service they are not that bad off as I see it. But yes some do go to the library to do what has to be done. My daughter uses the internet at the library, but she isn't begging for anything. There are too many scams out there to know who really needs help.
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@bdugas (3578)
• United States
11 Mar 09
Yes when I was living in Tampa, they have ones that come up to your car to wash your windsheid and they said they was knocking down around $200 to $400 a day. Now that is pretty good salary for a days work to do nothing. They tried to get them off the street don't know if they ever did or not.
@messageme (2821)
• United States
9 Mar 09
That also goes for the ones on the street begging too. I seen on tv one time they did an eposode on people that beg on streets and they followed some of them. They would dress as a begger but went home to a nice beautiful home that only some would dream of. I didn't give to beggers anymore after I seen that! usually you can tell the real ones from the fake ones.
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@beautyqueen26 (16030)
• United States
8 Mar 09
That's totally weird! I've never seen anyone
begging online. But, then again, I don't get
around to lots of blogs.
I wouldn't mind seeing a donation button
on a blog. That's not offensive to me.
Especially if the blog is high quality,
I wouldn't mind donating a small amount
of money to the webmaster or blogger to help
them continue their good work.
Every little bit helps when blogging.
Thanks for the discussion.
Very insightful.
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@sergeantrom (5721)
• United States
8 Mar 09
Hang out in the MEM for awhile and you will see plenty of begging. A blog is work and but still dont see the need for donations. Unless there is a good cause. Donations implies there should be a cause. If you are just donating so the blogger just keeps the money, thats a handout.
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@sergeantrom (5721)
• United States
9 Mar 09
Now that is a good example of how people try to take advantage of others by begging.
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@messageme (2821)
• United States
9 Mar 09
Actually at my library you can use the internet without a library card. What do you call begging? Do you mean for money? I have never seen anyone on the internet beg for money and if they did. I would help them if I could. you don't have to have absolutely nothing to be poor and in need of money. We are about to lose our house and we are starting to get shut off notices for a lot of our things. My boyfriend works very hard for his money, but it just is not enough. I would surly ask someone for money before we are living on the streets. Wouldn't you? You can tell me you would rather be living on the streets with no roof over your head before you would ask someone for help. To me that is just being stuborn.
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@AnythngArt (3302)
• United States
10 Mar 09
Although no one wants to see anyone else struggle, Sergeantrom, you have given some great examples of steps you can take to try and address the problem. There are also city services that you can try and tap into. In most cases, your electricity provider will try and work with you to get a payment plan you can afford, rather than cut you off (just one example). I would put all my effort into survival before I asked even my closest friends for help.
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@hersheyskiss (761)
• United States
10 Mar 09
Amen, I'm with you. I hope things get better for you all soon. I will say a prayer for your family.
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@sergeantrom (5721)
• United States
10 Mar 09
Living in a house and getting shut off notices? Then you have options and time. Not everyone can afford a house. Rent a room in your home. Move to a cheaper apartment. See if you can get a foreclosure loan. When my husband got laid off, we cut off everything except our utilities. Internet is a luxury so we cut that off too. We cut our grocery bill in half. We pawned everything of value. I took half my closet to consignment. It taught us a lesson, to survive on less. We saved so much money when my husband went back to work we just kept living on that budget. I dont know if you work but two heads are always better than one. I am very sorry for your situation and wish you well. To answer your question, no I would not beg. I would do everything in my power to get out of that situation. Its a matter of making hard decisions and sticking to them. If there are no jobs in your area, then move to a new area. I watched my mom work two jobs to support five kids by herself. When she wasnt working, she was sleeping. Sorry but when you grow up seeing this kind of determination, anything seems possible. Good luck with your situation.
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@balasri (26537)
• India
9 Mar 09
I too detest a human being stooping so low and beg for money putting his self esteem at stake.There are plenty of people in my country who has enjoyed the free money and stuck to it without any shame.The aged and invalid or handicapped are another matter altogether.
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@sergeantrom (5721)
• United States
10 Mar 09
Detest is such a strong word. I dont like seeing people beg but at least want to try and have some compassion or understanding. Now criminals who steal free money knowingly, that I detest.
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@lordwarwizard (35747)
• Singapore
9 Mar 09
Hi sergeantrom,
Quite a bit actually. I get very irritating when people beg everywhere.
I find this magnified on online multi-player games especially. For those games I played, there will always been a group of people who will beg non-stop. They will beg for anything for virtual gold and item to free training to level their characters.
It seems that me that they feel they have a holy right to be given everything they ask for - even though the rest of the players got all those things through their own effort too.
One thing about the library card thingy. Over here it is different. Unless you drag it out long, citizens get free library membership forever and we don't need any identification or library card to enter the library. You need either to borrow books though.
Currently, if you want to use the computers/internet on the computers, you still need to pay a minimal sum. But if you have your own WI-FI device, then you can tap on the network free.
@lordwarwizard (35747)
• Singapore
10 Mar 09
Yup, I don't and that's the truth.
3 main reasons:
1. I tend to avoid online 3D games. Yes they are memory hogging but the thing is, I have not seen any online 3D game that doesn't have ugly graphics. WoW is no exception.
2. I don't think I can not get addicted so I don't even want to start.
3. It is one of those lame online games that require you to pay a regular subscription fee. Not only does RECURRING cost always bothers me, I don't want to limit my freedom this way too. So I invest money and time, heart and soul into this game and you want to tie me there forever? And if I decide to leave, you will cancel my account if I don't continue paying? Well I don't know if the last will happen but I don't like the implied slavery that comes with such games. Usually when I get too addicted to a game, I will just deliberately not play it even if I really want to play just to show that I am in charge, not the game.
@sergeantrom (5721)
• United States
10 Mar 09
Oh tell me you dont play that game wow?? My husband spends every minute on that thing but thats another story. The libraries here are run like businesses. They even have videos. That game is intense and beggars would drive me insane in that game. How rude of them!!!
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@lexus54 (3572)
• Singapore
9 Mar 09
It is possible (although not so likely) that those who beg on the internet do not have the means to own a computer or an internet connection, and ask their friends or other people to help them send a request. The internet has provided a new platform for beggars to try getting some charity from strangers instead of them being out on the streets.
Regardless, I never really pay serious attention to such requests. With so many scams nowadays, I really cannot trust such messages and requests sent over the internet, and I believe there are many who think likewise. It is sad because if such requests for help are ignored by people, the genuine cases will also be bypassed or ignored. The trouble is we just don't know which is genuine and which is not, so better to be safe by not answering such requests, than to be sorry if you find yourself being the next victim of scammers.
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@lexus54 (3572)
• Singapore
10 Mar 09
They go via the internet means because more likely than not, these people are scammers out to cheat people through sympathy. If they are genuine, then I think the internet is worth a go for them, because it is practically free to try (so no loss if it is not successful) and the reach can be very great indeed.
@sergeantrom (5721)
• United States
10 Mar 09
I agree not likely. Besides if they have friends with computers, why not beg their friends for cash instead?
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@hersheyskiss (761)
• United States
10 Mar 09
I understand what you are saying about begging, but you mentioned the people that have "Will work for food" signs. Why are they so bad, if they are willing to work for it. I have helped these people and there are some very talented people out there that just need a helping hand. The economy is bad and we all need a little help sometime and can't always find a job immediately. I've even seen CEO's of companies who have had to take janitorial jobs just to make ends meet so it's bad for all of us out here, not just a few. Just my 2 cents.
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@hersheyskiss (761)
• United States
10 Mar 09
You are right about that. If they really need the help, they will accept any and all, not just cash. Have a great week.
@sergeantrom (5721)
• United States
10 Mar 09
Great two cents you have. I was kinda joking with the sign comment. I wanted to make my point by putting a visual in everyones head. I have not seen a sign like that for years. Now its the long sob story in little words on the cardboard and they only want cash. Not to keep repeating myself but like I said above, people who truly want real help, will find it and take it, no matter what form. Not just cash.
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@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
9 Mar 09
i agree 100%. i get so tired of people whineing & it's always the same ones. i know there is one woman who claims to be so educated & seems to think she knows everything. if that was the case why is she always on here whining. i don't have any money to speak of but i figure if u have the money to buy a computer, pay for it monthly u can't be to bad off. i think it's very obvious they are wanting people to feel sorry for them. i don't. have a good one.
@sergeantrom (5721)
• United States
10 Mar 09
You said it! Internet service is going up every month.
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@bestboy19 (5478)
• United States
9 Mar 09
The begging I see is usually political. Please give us money so we can fight this policy or that. Individuals begging I've not yet seen, but I would pass over them the same as I pass over the political ones. I don't like dealing with beggars whether in person, through the mail, or on the internet. I know that makes me sound uncharitable. I support what I support.
@sergeantrom (5721)
• United States
10 Mar 09
I respect your honest opinion and I agree somewhat. I dont like dealing with beggars either. I dont agree that you sound uncharitable. What you say makes sense and in no way affects how charitable you are.
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@shaikshahi (20)
• India
9 Mar 09
no idont bother.how can we just comment,on them without knowing what is there problem. lot of people are suffering from bread and work.there is nothing to feel small about this. please try to understand there difficulties and help them,if you are in a position,god will help you more.
@sergeantrom (5721)
• United States
10 Mar 09
I help when possible. Jesus said "give a man a fish and he eats for one day". Teach a man to fish and he eats for days. People who truly want real help, will take it no matter the form. Most beggars want to be on the street. They dont want the responsibility of working, thinking and paying bills. Its less stressful to be on the streets than to work on a job for 20 years only to be fired and your retirement money was drained by greedy bankers. Now thats reality.
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@shaikshahi (20)
• India
10 Mar 09
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thanking you
@sergeantrom (5721)
• United States
10 Mar 09
Thats what I have been saying all thru my posts. There IS all kinds of help, if they truly want it. Thanks.
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@cher913 (25782)
• Canada
9 Mar 09
i agree because almost everyone is in the same boat as these whiners because the poor economy has affected just about everyone in some shape or form but do we all complain? no, we just work harder!
not only the 'i want something for nothing' but 'i am the victim' mentality. (even the people commiting the crime have that mentality!)
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@sergeantrom (5721)
• United States
10 Mar 09
That is so true, criminals are getting off on technicalities today because they made the jurors believe "they were victims". Heck, anyone with a rough background can claim the victim card. But what we do in difficult situations is what separates us from the animals. I choose not to be a victim and work my a** off instead. Thanks for comment!
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@laydee (12798)
• Philippines
9 Mar 09
Oh tell me about it, I had a friend once who shared to me how much he pitied someone he talked to online because he said that the girl really needed support, couldn't go to school, and sometimes can't even eat three square meals a day. The girl was asking that he help her even if it's only for food etc.
Well, I can't believe he bought into her so much that he was willing to send her money the following day, but his idea changed when I told him "if she couldn't have a complete meal a day, then why don't she just use the money for talking to him on the internet for food?"
I mean, you're right, there are many expenses that you need to be able to go online. Yes, it could be cheap and all, but it's actually an addiction. You go online because you know some fool would believe your story.
Another experience I couldn't forget was that one time I was forced to use an internet service outside (because my net connections were busted and all at home) so I went there in the internet cafe, then while doing my thing, I overheard several women laughing out loud. They were like 40's or close to 50's I guess, then they'd brag about their 'chatmates' sending them dollars. The worst part, was that they were actually using the photos of their nieces who were young (20's). Webcams weren't very popular then, but the thought that these women do this for fun!? Just because some people would really fall for these scams. Whew! Unbelievable.
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@sergeantrom (5721)
• United States
10 Mar 09
Older women doing that? That is unbelievable and disgusting. If only people would put that brain power to some good use maybe there would not be any poverty.
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@bagumbayan (2705)
• Philippines
9 Mar 09
As if begging literally. Dont mind them. They perhaps need that money that much. But just ignore them.
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@moonchild1au (6237)
• Australia
9 Mar 09
I completely agree here. I mean, fair enough to ask for help on the internet but to ask for money for nothing - get lost!!! You do have to have some sort of money to be on the internet - even if it was just your ID to get your library card!!
@sergeantrom (5721)
• United States
10 Mar 09
Short and sweet, just the way I like it.
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@sergeantrom (5721)
• United States
10 Mar 09
Hang out in the MEM section for awhile. You will see them.
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@amored13 (27)
• Philippines
9 Mar 09
begging is the product of not giving... technology and networking is just another means of people needing life... technological advancements are not for the solution of poverty, instead utilization of these phenomena aggravates the disparity of those who have and those who have nots... begging on the internet is a progressive way to adapt in this situation...