More Political Misinformation

I dont know about that as I havent really studied it . BUt how many more lies will he tell think he needs a new script writter!

I have to correct your correction, flowerchilde. In 2001 Bush banned federal funding for research into stem cell lines created after that date. At that time only 21 lines had been produced so federally funded research came virtually to a stand still due to the limited availabilitly of material. There has never been a time when embryos were created for the express purpose of experimentation. Previously, as now, embryos that would otherwise have been discarded have been donated by the patients at IFV clinics who no longer needed them for this research. Private research has continued in a number of ways but, eight years later, it's still a fact that the most flexible...the best hope for the most people...lies in the embryonic stem cells which can be programmed to become any cell in the body. As far as adult stem cells go...they can only become what they have already been programmed to be. There has been some success with spinal cord injuries to rats but, other than that, there have been no human trials yet. Amniotic fluid, placenta and umbilical cord cells also have limitations that embryonic stem cells do not have. As far as producing and selling embryos, federal funding will make that pretty much impossible due to regulations and oversight as that is extremely unethical. Fertility clinics have literally thousands of left over embryos belonging to patients who have the option of donating them or having them destroyed. Either way, these embryos are not destined to become a human being. With the backing of federal funding research can come out of the dark ages and many lives can be saved.

I'm afraid I don't know much about this subject flower...can you perhaps point me in the direction of a suitable site where I can read up on this issue...something easy to understand?

That is what is happening in Europe. They are all for embryonic stem cell research and it is hard to get funds for adult stem cell research. Not only does embryonic stem cell research destroy a future baby but it does not work. The cells turn cancerous. I think this is just an excuse to encourage abortions and what is going to happen when they run out of embyros from abortion clinics and later left over from fertility clinics (because I am sure that they will make a law making it harder to save the embryos to transplant into barren women's wombs) then they will do what used to be done in the 20s and 30s, deciding that only certain women are fit to bear chlldren and encourage those they consider not fit to donate their eggs for embryonic research. And I thought this was just bad science fiction.

Yes, political misinformation is definitely right. Funny how that happens so often. I wish the researchers and their funding groups would be satisfied with what they can get from umbilical cords and the like. We're going into territory that is not black and white anymore to a lot of people. Nothing seems to be off limits.

I am glad this bill was passed. Doesn't seem off track for miscommunication to take hold. This research has such promise I hope that something can come of it and that it doesn't just dry up. As far as the financing goes I think it is popular enough that some where there should be a multi-million dollar broker somewhere that wants to put a hand into the pot and help pioneer the whole thing. We need it to happen. Even people that don't agree with all of it must agree there is potential here and we need to see what can come of it.

You know Obama, no lie to blatant!

I am not in favor of embryonic stem cell use. As you pointed out, adult stem cells have been much more successful. It's the total disregard of the value of life that allows people to justify the use of embryos--babies. They are babies, life has begun and although they are not yet formed they are still babies to me. The anti-life (pro "choice") activists are happy with this because it further dehumanizes the most helpless victims of humanity. I did not vote for this president but I was hoping he would be very good. In the past 6 weeks he's continued to astonish me in the worst ways. This lifting of the restrictions convinces me that he's just as morally bankrupt as any other politician.