If you can't say anything NICE....
By mommyboo
@mommyboo (13174)
United States
March 17, 2009 1:42pm CST
...why say anything at all??!
Yes, I know this has probably been asked before but I have got to know WHY. What is wrong with people? If you don't like something, why watch it and then make as many nasty comments as possible? Are you TRYING to make enemies of the people who appreciate something?
From time to time I read, see, or hear something I don't particularly like. That doesn't mean the fact that I didn't LIKE IT gives me supreme license to bash, hate, or otherwise attack it. Usually I just don't say anything. It's not HARD.
Are you guilty of hating and bashing things all the time? What do you gain from it? Honestly? Do you simply like angering other people for petty reasons??
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26 responses
@saffrondreams (596)
• Canada
17 Mar 09
It seems immature, but I suppose it has a cathartic effect. It just FEELS to bash something for some people so they just let their feelings about everything be known instead of bottling it up inside. I think it's a combination of egocentricism, a lack of foresight, and generally poor impulse control.
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@MaryLynn321 (2680)
• United States
17 Mar 09
If I don't like something, or see a discussion I don't like. Then I don't respond to it. It sure gets annoying like you said when someone is watching something they don't like and they are commenting all the time, goodness just change the channel right.
Hugs MaryLynn
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
19 Mar 09
I can be as sarcastic as the rest of em, but it's not a way of life for me. I don't see the world through a skewed view of 'let's be as rude as humanly possible' lol! If I am really upset about something because of a purposeful slam against me, that's one thing, but just randomly deciding to say something rotten about something I had every opportunity to AVOID or not even SEE... that's totally uncalled for. I hope by posting this some of the people who act that way see their actions for what they are.
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@MaryLynn321 (2680)
• United States
17 Mar 09
Me too. Being too harsh can sometimes be just mean, and others can take what one is saying wrong. So If I can't be positive, I don't bother answering. Better safe than sorry.
Plus no need to start negative feed back.
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@MaryLynn321 (2680)
• United States
19 Mar 09
I agree with you. I know of people like that, that are just negative 3/4's of the time. There is so much more to life than being rude and negative all the time. Positive feed back is much more stimulating.
@derek_a (10874)
•
18 Mar 09
My philosophy of life exactly! We all have our likes and dislikes, and no two people are alike. There are bound to be clashes from time to time, but I would prefer to resolve it in my own mind, especially if it is something to do with somebody on-line that I am never likely to meet face to face. Pleasant conversations and friendly debates can bring a smile to your face. Animosity, a frown.. No point in that. - Derek
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
19 Mar 09
I'd rather get my point across in a nice manner than have it turn into a clash of wills - not that it NEVER happens, but my preference is for things to stay friendly as much as possible. I have faith that most people would PREFER things that way too.
My one big time I don't care is when it becomes obvious someone won't do their job lol! That's a big deal to me. It's even worse when I am PAYING them yet they won't do what I'm asking!
@jasmine0728 (677)
• United States
18 Mar 09
I so agree with you,I like to think I don't say anything that isn't nice about anything or anyone,however that is not realistic we all do to a point.The difference is in is it said to hurt another,too many people find it so easy to talk smack about others without regard to their feelings.
Jas
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
19 Mar 09
I definitely disagree with people about some things but that doesn't mean I call them wrong or belittle their point of view - as long as they can agree to disagree. The only time I get edgy is if someone won't admit there is another view to see and they are nasty to me regarding my view JUST because it doesn't match theirs.
@roselynm1023 (950)
• Philippines
18 Mar 09
i will comment to your post by continuing the sentence :) I you cant say anything nice better to keep your mouth shut. that is my principle. why because if you will say bad things people will get hurt, yes truth will set us free and truth hurts but i believe that there is a proper time to discuss on those things.
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
19 Mar 09
I'll repeat what I said in response to someone else - being honest does not equal being hurtful. I don't know whose idea it was that to be honest and truthful means to hurt people - there are ways to be honest and truthful and NOT hurt people. I guess maybe everybody has an apparent lack of tact and respect these days.
My favorite example of someone who equates being honest with being hurtful is Simon Cowell. Maybe some of it IS to get a reaction and for ratings because apparently some people LOVE his manner, but I don't. Just because HE doesn't like something does not make it 'horrible and hideous'. I don't see why he can't just say HE doesn't like it and then perhaps WHY he doesn't like it, without implying that it was awful and that in any way, shape, or form, anybody else agrees with him. Ick.
@ljbinkop (744)
• United States
18 Mar 09
Hi Mommyboo! I also really dislike it when people stat bashing things that they do not like for no reson other than to post and bump up their numbers! I was on the other day and someone had posted a discussion about one of my favorite movies, but it was simply posted as "I hate this movie, don't you?"!! What a waste of time and why be mean??? Can't this person find a movie or something they DO like and post under that heading?
I have always been taught that if you don't have something nice to say, you should not say it, and I think people in this crazy world we live in would do good to remember that as well. We are all here on MyLot to have a good time and make a little money, so I say live and let live! Leave your bitterness elsewhere!
Thank you for the question and have a great day!
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
22 Mar 09
LOL! Very recently I too saw a discussion like that, something about 'have you been forced to watch Twilight' hehe. I actually responded nicely to it, stating that I wasn't forced, I wanted to, but that it could be a very enjoyable movie if you have good company, even if you didn't WANT to see it. I have watched movies with my husband that I didn't particularly WANT to see, however, I just focused on whatever was good about the movie, and if there were seriously no redeeming factors, then I just enjoyed HIS company.
I don't really understand fluffing the numbers, I don't post discussions here about nothing or purposely to irritate people, I'd rather get some real responses. Besides, I think most of my friends here would think someone hacked my account or possessed me if I started dishing out 30 discussions a day beginning with 'I hate this, don't you'?
@34momma (13882)
• United States
17 Mar 09
people are going to say what they want to say no matter what you or me think. and that is fine. rather they are bashing or saying something nice. our reaction to their actions is what is most important. when you know people are bashing others or a show or a song, or whatever just to get a raise out of you and you give them one, well then they win. they got just what the wanted, and you or we give it to them. i try my best not to do that. I stay away from people and topics here on mylot with people saying mean things so i can reply being pissed off. i don't let them win, cause i am the winner girl
@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
18 Mar 09
I hear this and my take is that we allow bullies to run rampant with this type of attitude. Of course they are trying to get a reaction but what needs to happen is that someone is around STOPPING them from their rotten behavior. I wouldn't allow my KIDS to act like this! These peoples' parents should have prevented THEM from growing up to be such rotten individuals lol.
I do ignore some things but bullying HAS to be stopped. Ignoring bullying doesn't make anything better. It causes victimization of the people who are the most ill equipped to fight back.
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@arkaf61 (10881)
• Canada
21 Mar 09
I'm so with you in this one! :)
Some people seem to feel that they have to give some input even if it's negative and the more so when it is. Apparently they are the only right ones on that specific subject and everyone else is wrong thus in need of bashing. I have trouble understanding that concept but I see it more often than I would like to.
Like you, I don't say anything as a rule. I don't hold the the rights to all right perspectives, opinions or views in the world. And what is right for me is not necessarily what is right for someone else.
@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
22 Mar 09
And what is right for me is not necessarily what is right for someone else.
ABSOLUTELY! If I had a dime for every time I have said that to another person, I'd be a billionaire and I'd split the booty with you! What I don't get is even saying this to another person, a lot of times they STILL come back with 'but you're still wrong'.
$%^%^???
How in the world can *I* be wrong after I've just explained that just because two opinions are different, it doesn't mean ANYBODY is wrong? Ugh. You'd think after I don't condemn them even if their view is by merit absolutely condemnable, they'd at LEAST throw me a bone and admit that 'of course your view is RIGHT for you' but they don't.
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
18 Mar 09
LOL--yes I'm of the opinion that if one can't say something nice then not to say anything at all...although I've been known to fly off the handle in a hissy fit and will say something very harsh...but something like that with me is usually just a once in awhile thing..I DON'T make it a habit.
My main problem now is that I'm undergoing though is my "stalker"---this person was on my friends list for a long time and was actually very nice in his remarks to me, but then he found out I was living on SSI disability benefits and all of a sudden he viewed me differently, like I was worthless and a freeloader....he would "haunt" a lot of my discussions and plant nasty, sarcastic, biting, obnoxious things in my discussions--don't ask how many times I was close to throwing my computer out the window since he would tick me off so much. Me and others reported him and he was banned NOT only for the comments he'd leave me, but then he'd start getting nasty to any of my friends defending me. Well..he came back as another user and once again he was obnoxious...banned again...For a few months I was in bliss and left alone...until just recently..yup he's back again and at it again leaving "comments" on my discussions....wouldn't be surprised if he shows up here and makes a comment to my post here--gee maybe I should feel flattered that I have my own stalker, but believe me I'm not--never know where he's going to show up next--if he does show up in anymore of my discussions I'll ignore him...it seems he thrives on the attention given to him and only makes things worse if I try and defend myself from his snide remarks to me
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
19 Mar 09
Well there are decent ways to disagree. There's always a really rotten way to say something - think of Simon Cowell on American Idol.
THAT WAS HIDEOUS AND I THINK AMERICA WILL HATE IT. THEY WOULDN'T GIVE YOU A RECORD CONTRACT IF *YOU* PAID THEM.
Yeah yeah, it's oh so easy to respond that way isn't it? I guess for some people. Well there is always a BEST way to respond such as 'I didn't really enjoy it but I'm sure there are people who did' or a middle ground.
Unlike some people, I do not think it takes a lot of knowledge to know when you're making a huge social faux pas like being so bluntly honest with someone you can't HELP but hurt their feelings and antagonize their family and friends. Being honest has nothing to do with being purposely hurtful, and I have a hard time understanding why people constantly confuse those things.
@jtr115 (722)
• United States
18 Mar 09
I hear ya. The sad thing is some of these people suddenly act like the victim whenever someone is nasty right back to them. I've never done that to anyone here, but I've received a few insults from others. If they don't want to have a mature discussion, that's their loss, not mine.
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@cream97 (29087)
• United States
19 Mar 09
Hi, mommyboo! Thank you for posting this discussion! We all at myLot needs to hear this!!! I feel like if the person does not like something, they don't need to speak no hatefully and nasty to an discussion. It is rude and ignorant. Yes, we all are here to give our opinion, but we are not here to trash another persons discussion or opinion either!@! We should be mindful and considerate in giving our opinion. If, I dislike something, I may say, I dislike it, or don't really care for.. I will say it in a very nice way.. I would not be mean and ugly! And there are times, that I will not say anything.. I usualy try to go by this motto, if you don't have anything to say nice, don't say nothing it at all! We all should learn to follow this motto. If we do, we can all reap the respect of each other. There is no need for others to be mean to another. It is unnecessary! They gain nothing, but Hell in their hearts!
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
22 Mar 09
Exactly. I don't feel GOOD after I know I have hurt somebody. In fact, even if the situation warranted it, I don't always feel GOOD. Sometimes I wish I could have been nicer, even if the point would never have gotten across another way. Mostly I just don't understand why it always comes down to conflict to just ... coexist peacefully any more.
It's very interesting how some people I know will complain and say 'why do you sugar coat things'... well I don't. I just don't take the path of 'most hurtful comment ever' and instead I choose to try and at least make it partially positive. Another poster stated that it's important to make something productive - I like the phrase 'productive criticism' much better. That would obviously mean adding something positive so that the person doesn't feel attacked. Nothing good ever comes of somebody feeling attacked by everybody! It just puts a person in defense mode and of course 'alls fair in love and war', so a person defending themselves often just spits out willy nilly whatever without caring who they hurt or offend, which just makes the situation that much worse.
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@abanerji (1026)
• India
17 Mar 09
very true, if we don't like something we don't have to show our disgust. there is something which people know but never try to understand. no one os acctualy wrong, it is the perception of every individual that akes things right or wrong.
now if, one kills another and says that it was his perception then, killing a living being is universally wrong and any one has the right to speak against it.
but genrally speaking, we all need to understand that different individuals think differently, so always listen to them. comprehend what they exactly have to say and then make your point.
there is no point in hurting people or starting an argument with people just because you feel they are doing wrong. empathise with them and then if you feel they are wrong, then convey it to them in a polite and easy manner.
@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
18 Mar 09
See, I hear you very much here. I do not believe in black and white 'right and wrong', I believe in PERSONAL right and wrong. Somebody might say their religion is THE most important thing in the world and that means it should also be the most important thing to me. Guess what? It isn't! It never will be. I don't give a rip about religion - PERSONALLY. It doesn't complete me. Now I don't have anything bad to say about it completing them.. if it does, COOL! But I want them to keep it to themselves and not beat ME over the head with it. I will never say they are wrong, just that their view is right for them and wrong for me. I think that it shouldn't have to go further than that. I can be happy without it, they can be happy with it, and neither of us can infringe on each other's freedoms. That's as it should be, in every arena, in everything.
Right and wrong are perceptions, and motivation is the deciding factor. There are of course socially accepted universal 'right and wrongs' set forth by governments and laws, but some of those are moral too... as in do not kill, cheat, lie, steal... you know.
Thanks for your views!
@ajithlal (14716)
• India
18 Mar 09
I always believe that if a person does not have anything nice to say, just to keep quiet. I always give a smile back or just stare or just walk away rather than saying bad or fighting with a person. Sometimes silence is better than bad words. Most times silence is the best weapon and hurts more than saying bad words or fighting. Most times in my life I have found that a person who is anger or saying bad things when I keep silent or stare or walk away without talking back feels guilty and later apologizes. I always believes silence and avoidance are the best weapons rather than fighting.
@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
22 Mar 09
I know that some people who act that way are just trying to get a reaction, and I also know that *I* have a hard time when I perceive a situation as someone trying to bully someone else. Sometimes I leave it alone, other times I am not able to lol. I also have to admit that sometimes I speak up because I can't help it, I KNOW without a doubt in my mind that there may be 10 other people who wish they had the guts to say what I do, and so I do it for their sakes. Usually I'll hear from a few of them thanking me for doing it and saying they are glad to have someone willing to not just agree but state it for the record.
I don't LIKE confrontation but unlike many people, I am not AFRAID of it. I'm stubborn and confident in my own views, so it would take someone MORE stubborn and confident to wear me down. I don't meet many people more stubborn than me lol.
@beautyqueen26 (16030)
• United States
18 Mar 09
There are some people who
have a real chip on their
shoulder and they go around
trying to pick fights.
Or, they say things to instigate
fights.
And, that's sad.
We all have to do our part to live
in a harmonious environment.
And, Mylot is a huge community.
I hope we can all hold hands and be
friends.
Doesn't always work out that way.
But it's nice when it does.
Have a lovely day.
Thanks for your post.
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
22 Mar 09
I honestly wish those with perpetual chips on their shoulders could go around in bubbles so their negativity would not bleed into OUR lives. I don't want to be in a bubble and protected from life, but I think they should be lol. Obviously they are the ones who cannot handle life if they get poisoned THAT easily.
@moonlitmagikchild (22181)
• United States
19 Mar 09
ugh i hate that! i agree if you cant say something nice shut the heck up!! no one wants to hear it and its sad that people get a high off of feeling superior and bashing other things.. so pathetic!
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
22 Mar 09
LOL! That almost makes ME feel bad... last night I made a comment to my hubby while COPS was on, something about how I couldn't believe how trashy the people on the show always are.... OOPS.
I'm sure most people would agree with me though! Clearly (I would hope) most of us are superior to the idiots who get caught and televised on there!
@Rainegurl (2156)
• Philippines
19 Mar 09
I have my moments of hating and bashing, but, yes, I agree with you. It is not hard to avoid it. I do not like angering people, I stay away from trouble as much as I can. I only complain and bash when someone stepped out of line. I am also frank, honest about my opinions, but I try not to be offensive. When I see that it is pointless, I stay quiet and just smile because I keep in mind that I have to respect other people's opinion. Or personality. Have a nice day
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
22 Mar 09
Hehe.. I think that's because you're normal and don't have a chip on your shoulder lol. I also believe there is a clear difference between being honest and speaking your mind - and being offensive and hurtful. Those are NOT the same thing, regardless of the tons of people around who seem to equate the two things lol.
Thanks! Hope you're enjoying your weekend
@ethelsat1974 (82)
• Philippines
18 Mar 09
well when you say nothing good to the person then just keep it to yourself.sometimes we need to control our mouth because when we said the things to somebody that could hurt or whatever then the damage has been done ,we cannot change.
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
22 Mar 09
OH! That is true, which is why words can be such awful weapons. Once said, something cannot really be taken back, as much as people claim it can. That is why some people have their confidence shaken or shattered because someone they have trust in continually says awful things about them. I feel this is why so many people have given up these days on their dreams, on goals, on ideals. It's really too bad, think of how children are, they NEVER give up. Look at how many times they fall down before they learn to walk, but most if not all kids just keep plowing on until they do it. Adults by comparison just seem to give up way too easily.
@graemelamb (64)
•
18 Mar 09
I'm getting to the point where I am thinking it is easier to keep my mouth shut. I hate conflict anyway
@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
19 Mar 09
So... you like having people ask you why you said something purposely nasty? LOL! Sometimes it helps to listen to what you're saying and seeing whether you would want someone else to say it to you. If it would raise YOUR hackles, perhaps you shouldn't say it in that manner.