If you suppor Ron Paul, you might be a militia member.
By Latrivia
@Latrivia (2878)
United States
March 20, 2009 1:10am CST
I heard about something today that had me sick to my stomach. A recently issued Missouri police report explained what to look for when trying to find a possible militia member. Most of us here on MyLot are potential militia members, according to this list - and some of us might even be militia leaders.
Here's a link to the news story: http://www.kmov.com/localnews/stories/kmov-national-090314-militia-terrorists-report.35e3aa8a.html
Here's a link to the report (not sure if it's the actual report or just a representation: http://www.scribd.com/doc/13290698/The-Modern-Militia-MovementMissouri-MIAC-Strategic-Report-20Feb09-
What exactly is a militia member made of? Here's some of it:
1.) Religious Identity - Religious ideology popular in right-wing circles.
2.)White nationalist
3.)Sovereign citizens - People that see themselves as sovereign citizens and question the legitimacy of the federal government.
4.)People that question Obama's legitimacy as president.
5.) People who support 3rd party political groups.
6.) People who prepared for the YTK bug.
7.) People who think Obama is tight on gun control.
8.)People who are against illegal immigration.
9.) People who support Ron Paul or Bob Barr.
...and the list goes on.
Just remember not to have a Ron Paul bumper sticker on your car while going through Missouri. So, fellow Mylotters, how many of you are potential militia members?
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@lilwonders456 (8214)
• United States
20 Mar 09
This is not the only state. Alabama had a report like this come out. And sense it is Homeland Security doing it you know it is being done on a national not state level. So you can pretty much count on it being done in every state.
It definately distrubs me. It puts people in boxes with labels that they do not deserve. By the defination of it that I saw basically if you are not a democrat that you could be on the list. That is a lot of people to try and say are a danger to this country. How is not believing in illegal immigration wrong? How is believing in the constituition wrong? How is supporting any candidate in the past election wrong? We are suppost to be free to make our choices and have our own thoughts and opinions. It looks like Homeland security does not think so.
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@Latrivia (2878)
• United States
20 Mar 09
That's exactly what I thought, too. They don't have anything there that applies to democrats, except for maybe preparing the YTK bug and a few others. For the most part, they're targeting the right-wing and libertarian groups, which is just disgusting.
There's nothing wrong with militia's either. I mean, they aren't illegal, are they?
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@lilwonders456 (8214)
• United States
20 Mar 09
nope they aren't. And a lot of them do a lot of good things within their communities. It is a pity they are being painted as a danger to our society. Sence when is running a soup kitchen or doing charity work in your community dangerous?
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@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
20 Mar 09
the worst thing is they say 'militia member" like it's a bad thing. The deomization of militia's began around the 90's in the clinton administration. they painted them all as evil, racist terrorist groups. NOTHING could be further from the truth.
Guess what america, by most state constitutions, if you are a male under 45 years of age, you are a militia member
And further, these existing organized and unorganized are sanctioned and called for contisutionaly. 99% of these groups exist for the purpose of being the last line of defense. Many do a great deal of things in the community. Run soup kitchens, assist police in search and rescue, they deploy in times of natural disaster.
the fact that a few nuts who did stupid things are also milita members (though some weren't and were only associated with them byt he media and government to further an agenda) is used to demonize and drive people in fear of what should be a respected part of our state's and national defense. These people are patriotic guards of our liberty.
Who do you trust to guard your liberty? A government? Or us, the people.
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@jonesy123 (3948)
• United States
20 Mar 09
The majority of people in the nation fit one or more of those descriptions. Even pro-Obama people, lol. This is going way too far. There are fundamental and constitutional rights 'forbidden' on that list.
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@thegreatdebater (7316)
• United States
21 Mar 09
You also might be a pot smoker. I listened to a debate that he had about legalizing pot with Stephen Baldwin on Larry King. I have to agree with Ron, I think that legalizing it would help the economy, law enforcement, and the country. I think Ron has some good ideas, but I really like this one, and I hope that someone will move this forward (I have never personally smoked pot, nor have I ever sold pot).
@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
21 Mar 09
lol, nice disclaimer.
Ok, so we find an ara we agrea on. Pot was originaly made ilegal, or rather rediculously taxxed as a way of controlloing mexican immmigration. It was only later that they began to deomonize it and made it completely ilegal.
It is indeed a waste of valuable law enforcement resources and the only dangerous element about it exists only because it is iliegal and that is the criminla element involved in distributing and selling it. Take that element out (pot only, the other stuff is really bad) by legalizing it and the real doanger is gone, resources are freed up for more pressing law enforcement issues, and the states have another source of revenue generation. It's win win win.
This by the way is another stae's rights issue. Many states have laws that now allow for the medicinal use, but federal law has been locking people up for what state laws have said is perfectly legal. It is another example of the federal government assuming authority it was never given. Now, the justice department has finaly came out and said it would no longer be conducting medicinal pot raids and it is a victory.but whathappens when California completly legalizes and begins taxing it? Will the federal government honor that law? Will the federal government step aside and act as the 9th and 10th amendments demand it does? Lets hope so. but this is one of many examples of why I have been campaigning so hard on the soviergnty movement.
Oh, did you just agrea with a Ron Paul policy? good, welcome to our terrorist organization, lol.
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