If people tell you that Obama is better than Bush was

The thing is, he's giving them exactly the change he bragged that he would. He didn't lie to them, but they hoped he was.

As predicted: the 'ol give him a chance thing (see my post above). It is a straw man argument really. We just printed a trillion dollars yesteday. We have just spent more in 2 months than any nation has in history, even taking in to account the wars that ol Goerge-the constitution is just a piece of paper-Bush didn't figure in to things. We have just had a congress pass a law that blatently directly and openly violated article 1, section 9, line 3 of the constitution, a major cause of the first american revolution and Obama is going to sign it, making him a co conspiritor. We have now a bill that will extend the patriot act (remember that one from good ol G.W?) We have a bill now that will make it impossible for small farms and farmers markest to survive, making it even harder for people to be self sufficiant in economic hard times. We still have a batallion on home soil ready for deployment to perform civil law enforcement. We still have border patrol checkpoints in the middle of states, often 75 miles from any border, stopping citizens in their day to day travels in their own state and country. We have an exposed scam by the federal reserve and the treasury department and congress. We have a 4 time tax cheat as the head of the treasury department. We still have the FISA laws in place from GW (remember those, the wiretapping bush did everyone was so wound up about back then?) So, how much more time do you think we should give him? We're already running out of constitution to violate.

Oh. almost forgot, he is on board with several U.N. Treaties that directly violate and conflict with both the constitution and our federal laws, as well as many state laws. Our stets are STILL being blackmailed by the federal governemt in to adopting laws and policies, balckmailed and bribed in to it, WITH OUR OWN MONEY. again, how much more time do you want to give him?

"Our stets are STILL being blackmailed by the federal governemt in to adopting..." should read : "Our states are STILL being blackmailed by the federal governemt in to adopting

well dawn, what would it take to bring the jury in?

I didn't say anything about why anyone loathes Bush, I said to ask them why Obama is better than Bush. But thanks for playing.

I will give you this dawn, at leat you don't seem to be one of the blind worshipers, for that I give you credit.

Greatdebator, perhaps you need to get out more often. ;~D

Clinton had the good luck to be in a boom economy left by Reagan/Bush and the economy was failing (tho the Dems don't want you to know it) when "W" took office - and 9-11 sure didn't help!

SND, congress didn't approve the bonuses from AIG, the CEO of AIG did. I see that you also forgot the republicans owned the government from 2004 to 2006, but I am sure that all of the spending, and easing regulations that they did during this time couldn't have effect the country. You also have to remember that John McCain, and George W. Bush were warning the country of the housing bubble in 2005 (which caused alot of the problems we have today), so I guess both of these fine republicans were talking about the future under Democratic rule. Not the last two years when they praised each other for their record home ownership. History shows that it takes a democrate to clean up the mess left by a republican. It took Bill 6 years to clean up the last mess, I think Obama might be able to do it in 4 or 5.

Yup, but left to his own words off the cuff, he crashes and burns everytime.

If I remember correctly, Bush did quite well speaking "off the cuff", like when he stood on the smoldering rubble at Ground Zero - he was exactly the leader we needed at that moment. I shudder to think how 0bama will handle a similar situation when it arises - and all his actions indicate that another attack is not only possible but probable. Perhaps it is becasue I am a New yorker, that the events from 7 and half years ago are still fresh in my mind, but I find it disgusting how so many seem to have completely forgotten all about it.

Amen! Bush kept us safe for eight years. They forget that. John Kerry lost in 2004 because his Swift Boat went the other way. John McCain lost in '08 because this was all a set up anyway. Anything is better than George Bush? Huh. Let's see. President Obama is still campaigning, forgetting that he is president and has lots of work to do. If this was school and he was a student, he would get, along with his Press Secretary, Robert "UM" Gibbs - wonder who writes his stuff? Um, who cares. He would get a F-, is that a grade? This is the most apologetic administration that I have ever seen. Oh, I am sorry. Oops, did it again. Spending more of our money. Oops, I'm sorry.

that would in fact be his saving grace in my eyes if he were not continuing and expanding a lot of what Bush did. But when I vote, I don't vote for "not the candidate". I don't vote for the lesser of two evils, it is an illusion and a moral compramise. If Stalin had ran, would you have voted for him because he "wasn't bush"? I have a stinging distain for Bush. But if I recall, bush didn't run, so ANYONE who ran was "not Bush". I supported a candidate I felt would best adhere to the constitution and the principals the country was founded on.