Why all the Obama Bashing?
@angusthethird (515)
United States
March 20, 2009 7:02pm CST
He is our president. Give the man his respect!
Besides, he hasn't even been in office 100 days. I think that given time, his economic policies will work.
I like the way he doesn't let big business get away with murder. He demands ACCOUNTABILITY. This is a foreign concept to a lot of people in that people in high places are sooooo used to behaving towards people any way they darned well please, and taking their money and doing anything they wish.
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@turandotty (228)
• United States
21 Mar 09
With all the damage he's caused in the 2 months he's been in office...yeah, most of us are seriously concerned. We don't have to agree with everything he or his minions are doing.
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@dogsnme (1264)
• United States
21 Mar 09
Please understand when I say this that I offer all due respect to you and I'm not saying this with any anger or animosity to you at all. But, I think you should do some research into how an economy works and that how a free market economy is the most efficient and successful type of economy and that a socialist economy does not work. So many people are supporting Obama's economic plans precisely because they don't understand the principles of economics enough if at all. Hundreds of economists have spoken out against his economic proposals not because they dislike him but because they know, beyond doubt, that his ideas for fixing the economy won't work but will only make things worse in the long run. Ideas like his have been tried in the past in the U.S. and other countries and they have been found to not work. It's not a matter of continuously trying until it works. It will never work. It's like trying to fly by flapping your arms fast enough. And when you fail to fly and you think, well I'll just keep trying until I get airborne. But you want to defy reality so you keep on trying and even believing that you can flap your arms fast enough to fly. But we all know it will never work. It's an impossibility. It's the same way with his proposals for fixing the economy. While I can't speak for anyone else on here, I don't hate Obama. That's not why I'm opposed to him. I'm no expert on economics but I have studied it some and I can say with certainty that his ideas will make things worse. As far as being accountable goes, he may be demanding it but he's not living up to it himself. He signed on to the first stimulus plan that Bush presented. By signing it he took from those businesses any need to show accontability by failing. That's how it works in a free market economy. If you make bad business decisions, you pay the price. He also promised transparency in his administration but pushed through the stimulus bill without giving people enough time to read it. Of course, that doesn't excuse the Congressmen who voted on it either. He may be demanding accountability but he's not practicing what he preaches.
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
21 Mar 09
"Besides, he hasn't even been in office 100 days."
And in less than 100 days he's quadrupled the biggest budget deficit in history set by Bush.
"He demands ACCOUNTABILITY."
Bull$hit. Where is Geithner's accountability? Why hasn't Obama held him OR Dodd accountable for guaranteeing AIG executives these bonuses? He threw AIG to the wolves and did NOTHING to hold his own party accountable.
Well xfahctor stole most of my thunder so I only have one point left to make.
There is NOTHING in the stimulus bill to help small businesses. NOT ONE THING. Obama campaigned on how much he cared about small businesses. He catered to the left wing extremists who think big business is evil. Now here we are, trillions of dollars are being printed and spent, and not ONE DOLLAR of that is going to help small businesses. Biden was asked what was in the stimulus bill to help small businesses. Do you know what his response was? To paraphrase it was "Check the website, Hmmm, what's the number for the site".
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@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
21 Mar 09
For ONCE, can an Obama supporter PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE argue in defense of his policy action or performence based soly on it's own merrit, with out resorting to either "give him a chance" or "bush blah blah blah"....is that REALLY so much to ask?
As predicted: the 'ol give him a chance thing (see my post above). It is a straw man argument really.
We just printed a trillion dollars yesteday. We have just spent more in 2 months than any nation has in history, even taking in to account the wars that ol Goerge-the constitution is just a piece of paper-Bush didn't figure in to things. We have just had a congress pass a law that blatently directly and openly violated article 1, section 9, line 3 of the constitution, a major cause of the first american revolution and Obama is going to sign it, making him a co conspiritor. We have now a bill that will extend the patriot act (remember that one from good ol G.W?) We have a bill now that will make it impossible for small farms and farmers markest to survive, making it even harder for people to be self sufficiant in economic hard times. We still have a batallion on home soil ready for deployment to perform civil law enforcement. We still have border patrol checkpoints in the middle of states, often 75 miles from any border, stopping citizens in their day to day travels in their own state and country. We have an exposed scam by the federal reserve and the treasury department and congress. We have a 4 time tax cheat as the head of the treasury department. We still have the FISA laws in place from GW (remember those, the wiretapping bush did everyone was so wound up about back then?). He is on board with several U.N. Treaties that directly violate and conflict with both the constitution and our federal laws, as well as many state laws.
Our states are STILL being blackmailed by the federal governemt in to adopting laws and policies, balckmailed and bribed in to it, WITH OUR OWN MONEY.
again, how much more time do you want to give him?
So, how much more time do you think we should give him? We're already running out of constitution to violate.
As to "sticking it to big corperations" If you are refering to the whole aig bonus thing, THEY AUTHORIZED THOSE BONUSES. And then didn't scream about it until the public found out anf then they decided to play the "peoples party" by commiting a major constitutional no no, setting a dangerous precident. I can't believe how many people have been fooled by that smoke screen.
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@irishidid (8687)
• United States
21 Mar 09
I couldn't have said it better except to include this is not the time to bow down to fools.
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@jonesy123 (3948)
• United States
21 Mar 09
Yep, I fully agree.
As to the bonuses. They will nicely stay in the pockets of those who received them. Either via other tax deductions or a quiet court challenge. They are just waiting for this to go away.
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@irishidid (8687)
• United States
21 Mar 09
Respect is earned. He has yet to do that, infact he's done plenty not to deserve it and not to deserve trust.
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@irishfury187 (375)
• United States
21 Mar 09
all I have to say is the day obama "accidentally" launches all our nuclear missles and they all just happen to land among the states there will be no one left to blame him for being a horrible president and I still guarantee while millions of people are waiting to be admitted into heaven there will be obama supporters in line talking about "If bush wouldnt have messed this country up obama would have never accidentally hit the red button and sent the launch codes". The Obama bashing will stop...if and when he does something right and shuts everyone up
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@marciascott (25529)
• United States
21 Mar 09
That what I say give the man a chance, he can't change anythung overnight it will take a few years before we see a change in thuis Country.
@sbeauty (5865)
• United States
21 Mar 09
Historically the president was treated with respect, because of his office if not because of the man. Now we don't do that, and every little sneeze or fart is reported and blown out of proportion by the media, and all the people around who always seem to know better than our president does what should be taking place. We all knew when Obama took office that it wouldn't be easy to dig the country out of the hole it took many years to get into, and yet now it seems like everyone is expecting miracles. I say leave the guy alone and let him do his job for awhile. Personally I don't know all the answers for everything that's wrong with this country, but I'm glad there's someone who's willing to tackle the massive job in some way. If you can do a better job, you should seriously think about running for the presidency yourself come 2012.
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@matersfish (6306)
• United States
21 Mar 09
In essence, I agree with you. Even though I am in no way an Obama supporter, I was absolutely disgusted at people who continuously bashed Bush without knowing the first thing about any of his agenda. They would listen to Sean Penn, Tim Robbins and MSNBC's lack of news to form their opinions. I won't do the same to Obama. If I do criticize the man and/or his administration, it's on fact and fundamental principle... not hoopla.
But when it comes to "people expecting miracles to happen," it's not the "people's" fault -- truly.
Over 80% of all news mediums - networks, papers, etc - ran and still run majority "fluff" pieces on Obama (and majority negative pieces on all whom dare oppose) while refraining from any and all criticism, and drawing the conclusion that he (Obama) IS, indeed, a miracle worker.
Maybe, at the heart of things, people shouldn't believe the media, right? Well, when you have a media blackout - the populous opinion coming from an institution that Thomas Jefferson once claimed was more important than government itself - it's hard to dismiss it all as propaganda. At some point in time, you have to believe something that so many are saying.
So, before it was over with, even people opposing Obama were expecting to see said miracles because that's what every single supporter was saying would happen.
Only after he's elected do we start to hear that Rome wasn't built in a day.
In short, I don't blame people for criticizing the President, even though I try to keep my disapproval comments factual and even-keeled. I'll never be in the "let's all shut up and pray for him" crowd, though. That's the phoniest of all.
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@irisheyes (4370)
• United States
21 Mar 09
I think that his demanding some accountablity is good also. Mostly the critics seem to be saying that Obama supporters aren't saying anything besides "Give him time". The truth is that we have to give him time. Change doesn't come that fast.
If pressed, I would say that I'm very, very happy that he is making a vaiiant attempt at keeping most of his campaign promises. That's why I voted for him and that's what I expect from him. Of course, the naysayers are very unhappy for the same reasons. On the one hand, they say he has done nothing and on the other, they ciricize everything he has done. Damed if he does and damned if he doesn't. Guess that's always the way it is for a new presidency. lol
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@Latrivia (2878)
• United States
21 Mar 09
As some have already stated, in Obama's less than 100 days in office, he messed up royally. I gave him a chance when he first got into office. He blew that chance in a matter of weeks.
Nor does he demand accountability - not if it suits his purposed not to. That's why he has criminals in his cabinet.
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@kerriannc (4279)
• Jamaica
21 Mar 09
lol do you think that because he is the president he will not be getting any bashing. What makes him special from getting this. All government officials worldwide get bashing it comes with the territory responsibilities. My friend don't get blood clot over something that Obama knows he will be getting when he took that oath of office.
@PrarieStyle (2486)
• United States
21 Mar 09
Let's see who's going to hold him ACCOUNTABLE for signing a 1,500 page bill he didn't read that had a provision in it that protects these big businesses bonuses. And are you going to hold him accountable for signing another bill that gives the government permission to punish these big businesses by hitting them with huge taxes? How is that going to help these businesses, that we the people now own 80% of, going to help them get on their feet and grow?
We don't have time to "give him a chance"!
We need a leader not someone who's acting like being the president of the United States of America is being a kid in a candy store...
I don't want to see him laughing it up on Leno or any other comedy show, when the country is at the most important cross roads in history.
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@animestan (321)
• Canada
21 Mar 09
Please forgive me, I dont know that much about American politics or the American way of life. (I live in Canada)
From what i see, Obama Bashing, it would be typical because you have McCain supporters, and these supporters have to "support" Obama. One bashing is that Rush dude on NBC (i've only heard bout him)
And yes what angusthethird said, he has only been in office less than 100 days, dont judge him just yet. He hasnt done anything good, or bad. Give the man a chance and see what he does in the long run and then hate him or praise him.
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
21 Mar 09
I'm afraid you just don't understand the situation here. Even many of his own supporters have turned on him. The democrats in congress reamed him when he tried to take away military healthcare and put it on private insurance. He's already quadrupled the deficit, violated the constitution repeatedly, appointed multiple tax cheats to critical positions including the Treasury Secretary, and rather than be bipartisan as he promised, he's rammed his agenda through congress and mocked and insulted any republican who did so much as say congress should READ a bill before voting on it.
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@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
21 Mar 09
animestan, The bashing has nothing to do with a party letter. I'm not a republican either, I didn't vote for McCain. We have more than two parties here and many of us are just independants.
My isues are constitutional it isn't just the president, it's congress as well, it's the whole ot of them. The man has been in office less than 100 days, yes, but for christ sakes, as many constoitutional usurpations as he has pulled in those few days, why on earth would I want to wait for him to do more? He has already shown clearly the direction he wishes to take this nation and we are realizing how dangerous a direction it is.
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@turandotty (228)
• United States
21 Mar 09
No offense animestan, but you seem a little out of the loop... I don't think Rush Limbaugh was bashing him but his socialist ideologies.
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