"This is NOT a referral link!"..... Is this really necessary????

@James72 (26790)
Australia
March 21, 2009 4:55am CST
I have noticed most of my mylot friends and many other members placing the words "This is not a referral link" either before or after links they provide in their discussions or responses; yet I never do the same myself. Is it really necessary for us to be doing this? Are some people THAT hell bent on jumping on links that they can't immediately tell the difference between an allowable and disallowable web address? I find the whole thing interesting because as I've said, I never state these words before or after a link myself and I've never had a link removed before either. I do of course only include links that are allowable though..... What about you? Do you use these words when placing links as well or are you like me and just place the link and leave it at that?
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@makingpots (11915)
• United States
21 Mar 09
I just place the link and go, trying to keep it legit and then let it all fall out in the process. I'm starting to realize about myself that I can be rather lazy in my myLotting habits. Just trying to enjoy!
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@James72 (26790)
• Australia
21 Mar 09
I always try to keep all links I provide legit as well and am not aware of ever having one deleted, so I must be doing something right I guess! Based on this, I see no reason to add "This is not a referral link" above or below any of them. And you're lazy are ya? Must be from all that juxtapositioning!
@James72 (26790)
• Australia
21 Mar 09
You have brownies???? I haven't seen Rose for ages!
@makingpots (11915)
• United States
21 Mar 09
It can wear a girl out...... being juxtiposed! Requires a brownie to re-energize.
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@yuna15 (2706)
• Philippines
22 Mar 09
I guess they're doing it just be practically safe. Since somebody might report the discussion to the admin and say that the link they posted is a referral link when it's not. Like you I don't say it's not a referral link I'm sure that the admin can determine which is a referral link and which is not.
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@James72 (26790)
• Australia
22 Mar 09
Yes, I do agree with you on that front. What a shame that honest users have to resort to such a practice though. Admin can definitely check once and for all if it's a link in breach of guidleines or not, but the million dollar question I guess is DO they double-check??
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@James72 (26790)
• Australia
22 Mar 09
I wouldn't expect to get an answer if I asked to be honest! I'll continue my own pratice of not adding these words and just hope for the best I guess.
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@yuna15 (2706)
• Philippines
22 Mar 09
Well I really hope they do. Only the admin can answer that question. You can try asking though...
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@riyasam (16556)
• India
22 Mar 09
actually james,i have noticed many of my friends doing so but i thought maybe they had bitter experience in which some of their posts were deleted(maybe someone might have reported them ,due to their popularity(jealous),etc).as for me i am not so knowledgable in posting a link but if i ever become proficient in this,i will not add THIS IS NOT A REFERRAL LINK,i have to remain in your good books ,you know
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@riyasam (16556)
• India
22 Mar 09
JAMES,YOU DEFINETLY NEED SOME REST(i see you are eating word)what on earth is this toher???
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@James72 (26790)
• Australia
22 Mar 09
I typed it this way to give your skull a work-out!
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@James72 (26790)
• Australia
22 Mar 09
I think you're right here and other comments definitely back this up. Thanks to the negative actions of toher members that report any and every link in sight, honest people feel the need to place these disclaimers with their links. I don't use the disclaimer at all and never have. And just being in my book is fine mable, good or not doesn't matter!
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@Jemina (5770)
12 May 09
No it's not necessary. I have never seen one of them yet but maybe soon. (Gosh I've been away so long I've definitely missed tons of events and happenings here.) Actually, it's advisable to put the link of your source of information if you are quoting from another website say wikipedia and it's in the guidelines, we all know that. I personally had one post deleted because I accidentally put a referral link instead of my blog url. I think you know what I am referring to. It was about my wedding day. I think myLot has an automatic detection if a link is a referral url or not because as far as I can remember, that post I mentioned above was deleted within 5 minutes of posting. There is no way myLot admin or staff can go through and examine each and every post that contains a link.
@James72 (26790)
• Australia
13 May 09
I don't seem to see this disclaimer used so much lately, so maybe people have backed up a bit on this front? I agree that it's unlikely that mylot admin would personally check each and every link and they'd probably rely heavily on other user's to be vigilant on this front. I never considered there being an automatic detection function running though. Maybe! Thyanks for the response Jemina.
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@James72 (26790)
• Australia
13 May 09
As long as people don't abuse it, this vigilance is a good thing for us all. Things always go through phases on here, yet they remain the same in many ways overall as well, so I don't think you've missed much really.
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@Jemina (5770)
13 May 09
Oh that's right, I missed the fact that there are vigilant myLot users here. I used to be when I was just starting -- as if doing so would increase my rating, I mean ranking. LOL! Well, given my on and off activity here, I must say I don't know much anymore about my way in and out.
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
22 Mar 09
{Pyewacket slowly emerges....she's expecting wet noodles flung at her at any minute} Okay, I'll fess up...I was the one that started this idea, and even did a discussion months ago as to the reason. Well yes, most people of course CAN tell the difference between a link to a website, say for an article being discussed or to a Youtube video versus a referral link, but NOT always the case. Some lame brain got one of my friend's discussions deleted and it was due to the links we responders were posting. The person was asking for help since she needed to adopt out some cats. So a few of us who have pet rescue experience where able to help her out by providing links to all the shelters in this person's area....but like I said a lame brains here thought the links were referral links and the discussion was zapped when all we were trying to do was help this poster...so that really pissed me off no end especially due to the fact that it took me a few HOURS to find those shelters and help for the poster
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@James72 (26790)
• Australia
22 Mar 09
Wet noodles? I'd much prefer to fling dry ones actually, at least they have a better chance of leaving a mark! The example you've given definitely sheds some significant light on the whole practice then. I can appreciate yoy being pissed about it. It's ridiculous to think that honest members would have to resort to such a process though! It's kind of like having to point out to others that yes, I AM being an honest user of mylot! All we can hope is that even with a large number or reports made, the links will be checked by admin prior to them making a decision on whether to delete the discussion or not. This was obviously not the case in the past, but maybe that has changed somewhat, because I personally have never had a link or discussion with a link deleted.
• United States
22 Mar 09
Lame brains. I've not heard that in years!!!! Anyhow, I agree with you. It's just sad that people are too without a brain to realize that you all were providing links to help this woman. Some people are just mean. Of course, my discourse on mean people is an entirely other topic. I know you've seen how I post links within discussions and I haven't had anything deleted yet. I typically give a preface such as "The following link....." I hope no one else gets your threads and links deleted though. You provide some really good information. Namaste-Anora
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@Theresaaiza (10487)
• Australia
14 May 09
I hate the way your discussions make me think! I know someone who keeps using that NOTE.And I guess I understand him on that. A lot of people are so good at trolling that they report anyone at every instance they see you pasting a link. So to be safe,and a way to ward those trolls away, such note is placed. Other people also tend to think that every link is a referral so that note is for the purpose of proving them wrong. www.James_the_thinker.com [b]NOT A REFERRAL LINK
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@James72 (26790)
• Australia
14 May 09
I checked that weblink you provided and it showed similarities to my own mind that were unbelievable! I would not call these types of people "good at trolling" at all. If they're reporting everything they see then they're overzealous at best! I'm not going to place this disclaimer on any links I post because I never place links that are in violation of the rules here. Damn the NOT A REFERRAL LINK
@James72 (26790)
• Australia
29 May 09
I don't FRET Theresa! The only fretting I know involves a guitar! Hades coming to the surface isn't such a good thing though, but I doubt this'll happen. They'll expect me to go down to them I think. I wonder if there are many transport options?
@Theresaaiza (10487)
• Australia
28 May 09
Now don't fret James, or Hades will really go to the surface and fetch you. Of course we would hate that.
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@mtdewgurl74 (18151)
• United States
17 May 09
No, I have never added This is not a referral before or after a link I just basically say here is a link..thats all. I think maybe some people do it since they were so much trouble with it before. Or to use up space in a discussion to make it longer.
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@mtdewgurl74 (18151)
• United States
17 May 09
Yeah, hopefully they will feel confident enough to stop warning them that it is a referral in discussions. Although in the beginning alot were posting referral links and also some people were just giving negatives if a link was in a discussion probably.
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@James72 (26790)
• Australia
17 May 09
I do the same as you Becca and see no need to tell people that the link I've provided is within the guidelines. Why should I? To me it's pretty clear from the git go if a link is kosher or not! Some people just get overzealous with their reporting and have forced many honest members to feel thay have to do this. I don't seem to see it as much lately though, so this is good.
@KrauseHome (36448)
• United States
1 Jun 09
Personally I do not know how many times I have wished that people would not do this, and wonder why so many of them do? Maybe it is just because so many people would report these if they do not? Personally there are many times you can tell just from the discussion that the link is only talking more about the subject they are wanting to discuss instead. But I guess it is to each persons choice.
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@James72 (26790)
• Australia
1 Jun 09
I was never quite sure why either, but after this discussion started, I quickly came to realise that people do this because of trigger happy members that see any link at all and then go reporting crazy! I agree with you that it's easy to tell if a link is relevant to the discussion or within the guidelines, which is why I never put these disclaimers next to any links I paste myself. I KNOW I don't violate the link rules, so why should I?
@cyberfluf (4996)
• Netherlands
22 Mar 09
Perhaps they are trying to save mylot time by stating this? But then again, a person could be lying so mylot would have to check the link anyways. It sounds like something pretty unnessary if you think about it in that fashion. I have posted links but I don't remember ever posting links to other earning sites, so I never had to write anything extra about it.
@James72 (26790)
• Australia
22 Mar 09
If a person is acting within the guidelines when posting links, then yes, I DO consider it to be an unnecessary practice. But it seems that there are other members here that go "report crazy" from time to time and end up getting people's discussions deleted when they shouldn't be. I do hope that mylot admon double check a lonk before deleting a discussion, but it appears that this is not the case in every instance at all. Anyways, I won't be adding this disclaimer anytime soon!
@jwfarrimond (4473)
12 May 09
I've never bothered to do that as I always think that even if some zealot reports the link as a violation, when the admin. look at it, they will see that it's a link to another site giving extra relevant information about the discussion subject. That's the only kind of link that I do.
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@James72 (26790)
• Australia
12 May 09
I still don't bother with it myself and I don't recall seeing that many other people doing it much anymore lately either? I hope that mylot admin DO double check a link and don't just remove one after a number of complaints, but I'm not quite sure what their procedure is. As far as I'm concerned, it's pretty easy to tell if a link's a referral one or not! Thanks for the response jw.
@sacmom (14192)
• United States
26 Mar 09
Hi James. No, I don't think it is really necessary, though with some of the strangeness that's been going on around lately, I can't blame some of the others for putting this warning on the discussions that they start...just in case some people are that hell bent on jumping on links. Personally speaking, I don't recall ever doing this. When I put links in discussions/responses I don't bother with a warning and leave it as it is. I haven't had any problems with it, at least not that I know of (knock on wood). Hopefully it'll stay that way.
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@James72 (26790)
• Australia
26 Mar 09
Heya sacmom. I can't blame others for doing it either as you are very right in saying that there's been weird stuff going on in the past. It's frustrating though to think that perfectly honest members have to go to such measures just because of dishonest ones. I'm like you and don't place the warnings. I have no intentions of ever doing so either. May my own problem free run continue also! lol. Thanks for the response.
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@elitess (5070)
• Ipswich, England
23 Mar 09
Hi there James. I must say that most of the time i prefer inserting that text as well. I also add the text "Please don't post a referral link in my discussion" when i open discussions about money and economy in the earnings interest. There are some cases like when i am quoting Wikipedia or other very well known sites that don't have earning ways in them when i don't use the text about referrals.
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@James72 (26790)
• Australia
23 Mar 09
I don't think I've seen many links in your discussions elitess? I don't add this text to ANY links I've ever provided. It's a shame really that people feel the need to, just because of others that report everything that moves! Having to ask people NOT to post referral links in your discussions is also a pain when you think about it. These are the rules here for God's sake! If people were up to speed with the guidelines and acted accordingly, then there'd be no need to add either of these statements.
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• United States
21 Mar 09
I dont really post any links at all to avoid having that problem I'll put down the site minus the www. that way its just the site, no link just so people dont decide to have my topic erased so they can get a little bit of my discussion/response earnings in their account
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@James72 (26790)
• Australia
21 Mar 09
This is the part that gets me..... If your link is allowed under the rules of usage on this site and is in context etc, then why should you even have to do that? Surely people would actually CHECK a link before deciding on whether to report it or not? It appears that many people don't, otherwise other members wouldn't feel the need to place this statement with links or do what you do.
@James72 (26790)
• Australia
21 Mar 09
If they do, then it's the first I've heard of it!
@James72 (26790)
• Australia
21 Mar 09
I do report serious violations when I see them, but I certainly don't expect to be paid for it! I do it because it's for the betterment of everyone's overall experiences on this site.
• Australia
23 Mar 09
oh, dont worry about this! If you feel your referral link that is good information for friend, you can share others. We joy this website to chatting, and make friend with same favourite. Dont angry! Sometime, few people have wrong thinking. You are right.
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@James72 (26790)
• Australia
23 Mar 09
Welcome to mylot elain. I don't worry about it as such, I was just interested to know WHY people tend to do this is all. I certainly have my answers now! It still doesn't change the way I'll continue to act here though and I won't be adding these disclaimers at all. Links I ever add are well within the guidelines anyway.
@GardenGerty (160721)
• United States
22 Mar 09
Personally, I do not post links of any kind. On the other hand, the people who are posting this disclaimer are many of my friends, AND they have had whole discussion wiped out for links they have posted that were NOT REFERRAL LINKS. So they started making that note. I could name three people right off the top of my head, but I will not. TOS indicates that we should not draw attention to any one other member. So yes, they have had a problem, and are trying to protect themselves. It is okay with me for them to do that.
@James72 (26790)
• Australia
22 Mar 09
I don't paste links that often myself either. But when I do, they're always in context and well within the guidelines! I'm not put off by these statements, not by any means! I was just curious as to why people were so intent on placing them there. It's become clearer now why this is the case and to have entire discussions wiped out when the poster has done nothing wrong must be very frustrating. I hope that admin DO make the effort to double check a link before deciding whether to delete a discussion, but it appears this may not always be the case at all.
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@mssnow (9484)
• United States
22 Mar 09
I never even thought about saying that before. i just blatently provide links without awarning. of course none of mine are referrel links. i know the rules. I like to give people links of thins associated with there discusssion.
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@James72 (26790)
• Australia
22 Mar 09
I only include links that are relevant to the discussion also, so see no need to add this statement each time! I'm fortunate to have never had any of these links removed before either. It does seem though that there were major issues in the past with allowable links being removed constantly, so based on this, I do see now why many people choose to add these words. I'm still not going to change my own habits though.
@p1kef1sh (45681)
22 Mar 09
I do it and I have no idea why. I just started to see others stick those words in and sheep-like, I followed on. As all my links are to places like Youtube it hardly seems necessary. By the way, this is not a referral link because I am not linking to anything. This comment does not contains nuts, but has originated in a mind that is prone to nuttiness. I'm not linking to that, but if you did, then clearly I might have to caveat this comment with "This is not a referral link". Oh, I've already said that. Better safe than sorry. LOL.
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@James72 (26790)
• Australia
22 Mar 09
You don't know why? Come on now Mr Pike.... Dig deep now! I don't do it at all and have no intentions of starting to do it either. I know the guidelines and I don't breach them, so why should I go to all this trouble just to point out that I am indeed being an honest member here? But I do understand why others have chosen to place these statements there, it's just a shame that they feel they have to, just becasue of idiots in the past that are disruptive. I wish this response DID contain actual nuts by the way. I like nuts!
@Margarit (3676)
• Philippines
22 Mar 09
Ive notice that too James, i think there is no problem of posting link as long it is needed to the discussion. I been posting link to my discussion in order for them to understand clearly what i wanted to say. But i don't think we should write that words when we post link here for it is unnecessary and no need to explain why we post it. It if up to them if they want to visit the link or not.
• Philippines
22 Mar 09
Hi james, I tried putting a link before. It is a link to a video. But I never put those words on the link. I'm not sure why do people do that. Maybe just to inform everyone that they didn't do something against the rules. happy mylotting
@James72 (26790)
• Australia
22 Mar 09
Hi red_amethyst. It seems that many people add these words because there have been incidents in the past where people were reporting links constantly. It didn't matter if these links were in breach of the guidelines or not, they just reported them anyway! Quite silly really, but yet another example of negative people with too much time on their hands.
• Brazil
22 Mar 09
I started a discussion the other day and it had a link to my forum, it wasn't a referral link it was just a link to my forum!! And mylot deleted my discussion and I sill don't know why!! Maybe I should start writing that!
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@James72 (26790)
• Australia
22 Mar 09
This is priobably because the link you provided would have been classed as a "Promotional link" pinky. Referral links and promotional links are 2 examples of what is not allowed here I'm afraid. The best way to promote your forum in future would be through your profile, or via a PM to your closest friends.