There are only two reasons for abortion...

Dittos, miamilady! Rose, you wrote, "Most people that support abortion always bring in to the conversion (conversation?) war,this is entirely two different subjects,people that die in a war most always enlisted to fight, a war has a meaning and a purpose where taking a life on a innocent peacefully sleeping infant that has no voice is actually unjustifiable murder." I think you're wrong that "people that die in a war almost always enlisted to fight" and that "a war has a meaning and a purpose"; neither of these are always or even usually true, in my opinion, and this is a topic that is subject to opinion. There are many truly "innocent peacefully sleeping infants" who are killed in wars. People can disagree on the abortion issue and a woman's right to choose and when or if she should have that right but a few weeks old fetus is not an "infant". Annie

I didn't see what she typed as a "personal attack" toward you. I also haven't seen many pro-choice believers bring up "war" as you mentioned. Something in the original post made me thing of "war", i'm not sure exactly what it was. Before today I've never really considered comparing abortion with the killing that goes on in war, but now that I have contemplated it, I do think it's something people should think about. I don't agree with your argument trying to defend the killing that goes on during war. Many of those who are killed in war are too young to even be IN a war. I've never been one who speaks out against war either, but if we are going to talk about "killing and murder" we might as well be honest about what that really means. Youre "definition" that you provided us with talks about killing being something that you do with "malice" if that doesn't describe what happens during war, then, I don't know what does. Abortion is obviously a subject that many people are passionate about. Yes, you ARE entitled to your opinion just as we "gals" are entitled to ours. The reality is, we won't change your mind about this topic nor will you likely change ours. another topic that pro-choice advocates often bring up, is the fact that there are already far too many "unwanted" children on this earth, and if all those anti-abortion advocates would put there money where their mouths are and adopt those children, the world would be much better off.

Almost 800,000 children are served every year by the foster care system in this country according to the U.S. Children's Bureau, Administration for Children, Youth and Families. Some are reunited with their families, some are adopted and some languish in the system for years. There are far too few families willing to take in these children and, those who do, often find themselves caring for more children than they originally agreed to care for. So, I agree with you. It's so easy to judge while doing nothing.

First of all Anora_Eldorath, Roe Vs Wade was completely and entirely unconstitutional. Before Roe Vs Wade abortion was left up to the states to decide, which was in accordance with the 10th Amendment. If also completely violated the Preamble. The Supreme Court, to their shame, completely ignored their Constitutional mandate with Roe Vs. Wade. Support abortion if you must, but please don't celebrate corruption simply because it worked in your favor. Have you ever wondered how many women are injured during abortions? Do you know why the statistics aren't available? Because the ACLU, Planned Parenthood and other organizations have worked hard to make sure the statistics never see the light of day. On the other hand, have you ever read any independent statistics about the "back alley abortions"? Nope, all you ever read are "statistics" by the same groups. Their agenda of killing is more important than any truth of facts... or lives.

Ok, so Susan Smith and women how dumb their newborns in dumpsters are justified?

How is it "apples and oranges"? xParanoia say that some women choose abortions because they don't want to subject the child to a life of poeverty or disease. Susan Smith's stated purpose for killing her kids was because she didn't want to subject them to poverty or the evils of the world. Many parents have killed infants or children because of disease of deformity. Do you really think that everyone with congenital disabilities should never have been born? Go to the Special Olympics and tell all those atheletes how you feel about the fact they exist.

How much more ridiculous are you going to get in this discussion? Apples and oranges, Ted.

They are related because each were times when "not really human" was used to justify attrocities.

Ah, so slavery wasn't bigoted, because no one has the "right" to judge such things. "Separate but equal" wasn't bigoted, because it was just a difference of opinion... Sure, ok.

Ted, your argument is all over the place. First you say: "Abortion is the same mindless bigotry as any other time someone justifies killing using the "not really human" excuse." WHAT other time has someone justified killing WHO/WHAT using the "not really human" excuse except for when the discussion is related to abortion? I really would like to know what you're referring to. And now you're bringing slavery into it? What the he11 does that have to do with abortion? Yes, people have been bigoted towards many groups throughout history...and they still are...but you're either unable to comprehend my point or you refuse to see it. It IS possible, Ted, to have a discussion without resorting to making generalized judgements about others. When you stoop to doing that, your argument loses it's validity. Ah, so slavery wasn't bigoted, because no one has the "right" to judge such things. "Separate but equal" wasn't bigoted, because it was just a difference of opinion... Sure, ok.

Well done for making the decision as it was in the best interests of both you and the child. Good luck with baby Lemony. That is a very sweet name :)

Thanks friend! God bless!

I wish you every happiness with Lemony. What a precious name as well x

What an inhuman attitude towards another human being. I wonder who else you would justify killing simply for your own bigotry?

its not a human being untill its capable of independent life. until then it s a bunch of parasitic cells

Annie, I don't mistreat woman who I know have had abortions... in fact, I have treated many in the ambulance and gave them the best care (both medically and emotionally) I had to offer. One of my paramedic instructors taught us that "for the time you are with your patient, treat them as if they are the entire reason you became a paramedic in the first place". Running in places like Milwaukee and Atlanta, you can imagine what percentage of my female patients had had abortions. I asked about them when it was appropriate, and then gave them the emotional and medical support then needed... and none of it was faked. It's not my place to make sure people who have done things I abhor feel punished by me. However, it is my place to speak out against inhuman and unconstitutional acts. Since abortion is legal, abortion cannot be considered "murder".. but slavery and the holocaust were legal acts too. That didn't make them right. I'm sure there were many slave owners who were kind and wonderful people... but they justified slavery the same way our society justifies abortion on demand... "they aren't really human". As for rape (first of all, I don't separate rape and incest... if the victim is underage then it is rape.. period. Incest that isn't rape would only be if both parties are adults). I see legitimate arguments on both sides there. I would hope that the woman would choose not to punish the child for the crimes of the rapist. What I'd rather see is the rapist pay for his own crimes. But I also can't blame the woman if she can't. I know this though, while I would never tell a rape victim to have an abortion, but I also can't see myself telling her she has to keep the baby either. Call me weak.

Sad to say but millions of abortions are done for nothing more than birth control. Abortion is used instead of birth control every day. It is bigoted because people justify killing the fetus because they don't consider the fetus human... just as slavery and other horrible decisions have been made against Black people because they weren't considered "really human". No reason to sugar coat the truth, just because someone might find the truth offensive. "But I am guessing you probably know that allready and are after responses to your discussion to boost your earnings!" Whatever you have to tell yourself.

So it would be ok for a mother to kill a baby she doesn't love?

I think that considering whether or not to end the life of a fetus a person should ask whether or not they would support ending the life of a neonate for the stated reason.

All I did here was offer my opinion. Thanks for sharing yours.

Triage works for those situations too. The mother and the fetus are both patients, and the health and life of both need to be considered.