When do Men grow up?

It's not the person that grows up to become a man, but it's their actions and their mind that shapes them. I've been with and known of men who are in their mid 30's...what a waste of life they are. They had a wife and children yet they didn't go out to find a job, didn't have a car on their own and wouldn't clean up anything. Basically, they were slobs galore. If asked to get up and do something, they acted like you were asking them to run a 100 mile sprint in the middle of summer in Arizona. They weren't taking care of their responsibilities so they lost everything. I also know a man who just turned 30 who has had everything, but tended to his duties as a father, husband and man. His problem was his wife wasn't meant for him so now he's without his wife but he sees his children for visits. There's another younger man who is 23 and has no wife or children, but he takes care of his own and his job because his life depends on it. He's a fire fighter and would do anything for the woman he loves, even if it meant for him moving across the country. So, see, it isn't age that matters, it's how the person reacts to situations. My exhusbands aren't living up to their end of the bargin but it has caught up to them. Good luck. *Pleiades

Please tell me exactly what you mean by growing up because I was wondering the same thing about women all the best urban

About 30 year of age, that is when they really become a joy to be around, some take more time and some a little less. This is my experience

LOL Sorry not to make light of your statement, but some of it was funny! I think both sexes have their moments of not being as mature as they should. The main problem I have with men, is that they don't listen to what you're saying or they hear something totally different from what you meant. I give up most of the time and just let them think what they want.