What's With All The Pro-Abortion Images?

"By definition abortion is not murder, period." Doesn't that depend on what definition you use? The basic definition of murder is killing with premeditation. Since abortions almost always involve premeditation, they would certainly fall under the definition of murder. The legal definition is a bit more stringent in that it says the "unlawful killing with premeditation". By that definition you would be right as it is not illegal. Either way, you're just choosing ONE definition of a word with multiple definitions and then treat it as an absolute and that is rather disingenuous. By the way, every law in existence forces a belief on other people. One person may believe that "might makes right" but the law forces its belief that weaker individuals deserve the same rights. Right now the law is forcing the belief on people that an unborn child is not human and can be killed on demand for a nominal fee.

I never said it was a parasite, I said it had a parasitic effect on the mother's body. It takes nutrients and energy without giving anything back. It can make the mother physically ill in doing so. However, since it's the same species, it's not a true parasite.

A fetus is an unborn baby that shares half of the mothers genetic makeup. Your characterization of the unborn baby as a "parasite" speaks volumes about the basis of your opinion on this matter. I can't hope to come to a true accord with one having such a differential set of ideas. Civilizations are based on a set of rules, ideally, these are agreed upon by the majority of the populous. Hopefully, each citizen has a stake in the formation of the rules, because in truth, every law or rule removes a degree of freedom from each of us. In some societies abortion is done within the law, in others, the stoning of women for adultery is done within the law. Some laws just seem wrong to me. I would hope to change them if I could.

I suppose the difficulty for anyone who believes that life begins at conception is that the principle applies every bit as much to a conception brought about by rape. I know that sounds incredibly brutal (it implies that a rape victim must be forced to suffer twice over) but that logic seems inescapable to me. In fact, pro-life advocates who make an exception for rape make me wonder about their true agenda - it's almost like it's not so much about protecting life as it is about punishing women who have been 'irresponsible' in getting pregnant through their own choices and actions.

I have a hard time using the "pro-life" term for some of those who are anti-choice. I think you're right about their desire to "punish" women of whose behavior they disapprove. It's fine to judge those women and therefore deny them the right to choose but if they've been victims they don't feel they have that right. I think abortion is a personal issue and a personal decision that should be between a woman, her doctor and whomever else she wishes to involve. Annie

"I'm a bit disturbed by your comment, "Spare me the rape and incest arguments as well." Annie, I think he said that because he's sick of hearing that argument used over and over. It's lame and it's old. People use that argument as though it represents the primary reason for abortion. The fact is, rape and incest account for less than half of 1% of the abortions in this country. It's a lame and tired argument. In case you want to bring up mother's health, that accounts for roughly 3% of abortions. The other 96% just don't want the inconvenience of giving birth or raising a child. Murder is far more convenient. http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/policy/abortion/abreasons.html http://www.eadshome.com/AbortionStories/AbortionStatistics.htm

As I say, you never have a child in Down syndrome (or I'm wrong). But I'd better stop here because this problems comes from my sympathy but not from my experience.

To me this would not matter. Just because a child might be norm as society feels that is still unfair to not let the child live. To me everyone is here for a reason and sometimes a child that has problems can be a wealth for someone that has very little in there life. I also think this way if you do not want a child why not put the child up for adoption? I mean there are so many nice people that want kids and cannot why not put the child up for adpotion? That is always an option I feel. I am not mad here I just wanted to add my two cents on that subject. Happy mylotting and no hard feelings I hope

With all due respect, you paint a pretty picture there but I can't even begin to imagine what it must have been like for that 13 year old girl to be raped and pregnant as a result of that horrible attack. I mean, she and her mother both are to be commended but I wouldn't apply that standard to every other young girl who had that happen. Annie