Obama's Bowing

@ParaTed2k (22940)
Sheboygan, Wisconsin
April 3, 2009 11:44am CST
Does anyone want to read something funny!!! Would you bow to 'Royalty'? If meeting Queen Elizabeth II for instance, http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x3109609 GOP goes crazy over Obama's bow to Saudi King -- ENOUGH OF THIS! http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x291891 What a difference an election makes. :~D
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@patms1 (521)
• United States
4 Apr 09
No I would not bow to them. I would lower my head as a sign of respect but bow? No. One of Clinton's people did bow to the Queen and boy was there a uproar I am happy to say but of course today we live in a different world. As or the Saudi King. Maybe he was just remembering his past.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
7 Apr 09
Thanks but that wasn't the question. Follow the links, please.
@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
3 Apr 09
you want some entertainment ted? Ask people in those forums what the difference is between the two and the answers and explaining should be enough for a few nights and a few 12 packs worth of fun and amusement.
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
3 Apr 09
That's exactly what I was planning to do. I expect to be insulted, berated, called a Bush lover and a fascist, and eventually, banned for questioning the messiah. It ought to be a fun ride.
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
3 Apr 09
Brilliant links and yet another shining example of hypocrisy from those morons. Great find Ted!
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
3 Apr 09
Thnx, Taskr, I was about to go see if the links worked :~D
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@jonesy123 (3948)
• United States
3 Apr 09
I'm not a world leader, but for comparison purposes I probably would not do it. I have been raised with good manners and curtsies to royalty are part of that, but not in that position as a leader of nation that has no royalty. People don't have to bow or curtsy to me in that position. As a private citizen. The Queen is such an institution and so old, I probably would do it out of respect, especially since she would be my host. I probably would bow in Saudi Arabia to the King, too, if he'd be my host. But that's me, average Joe citizen, not me President of the USA. One has to think about the position one is in;)
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
3 Apr 09
Thanks, but the point of this was the links.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
3 Apr 09
Yeah, I wasn't as clear as I thought I was.. glad you came back to enjoy the joke. ;~D
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@jonesy123 (3948)
• United States
3 Apr 09
"Would you bow to 'Royalty'? If meeting Queen Elizabeth II for instance, " Okay, that misled me. The links are funny. Especially it not being a big deal in the responses in the second one but it's okay not to in the first... they are contradicting themselves there those people aren't they. I'm sure, if Bush had done it.... It's all a matter of perspective and who likes the leader in charge. Yep, an election does make a difference...
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@lampar (7584)
• United States
10 Apr 09
If I am a citizen of a country that practice feudalism, then i have no choice but bow to avoid persecution. But as an American, i am a free person and no one can force me to accept this illegitimate authority. Great to be free!!
@lampar (7584)
• United States
13 Apr 09
On the other hand, if i am a government official visiting UK and refuse to bow to QE while meeting her, i am sure i will get all sorts of criticism and fires from Brit. that i am arrogance and ill manner, if i do lower myself and bow, then my country men will say i am weak and useless; it is a no-win situation as far as i am concerned. I personally wish i will never have to deal with this type of nonsense later on. LOL!!!
• United States
3 Apr 09
Obama is expressing his "personal respect" there. No one should be surprised by it.
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
3 Apr 09
If by "personal respect" you mean bowing down before a superior. That is what you are doing when you bow to the Saudi king. Either way the point was the links he provided. You'll see the people at the democratic underground saying during the Bush administration how no American should ever bow to a king or queen of another nation. Then they say it's just fine for Obama to do it and republicans are being ridiculous for saying it's wrong. Displaying their hypocrisy was the point of this thread.
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• United States
4 Apr 09
" If By "personal respect" you mean bowing down before a Superior " Bingo!
@laglen (19759)
• United States
4 Apr 09
I would, as a diplomat, most likely bow (curtsy) to both. However if I had to chose one, it would have been the Queen!
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
7 Apr 09
Thanks, but that wasn't the question.. follow, and compare the links please.
@spalladino (17891)
• United States
3 Apr 09
Ok, I had to think about this for a bit so this is the conclusion I arrived at. Just as I would respect the traditions of anyone else...for instance removing my shoes before entering a home if that is their tradition...I would respect the tradition of the UK when it comes to meeting their Queen. I am not a world leader and I am not her equal on the world stage. I'm certain my attempt at a curtsy would be horrible but, out of respect for her and her standing with the people of the UK, I'd give it a shot.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
3 Apr 09
Thanks, Spalladino, but the point was the comparison of the links. Yes, most of us would respect certain customs when visiting someone else's home... but Obama was in England and didn't bow to the Queen (or any other royalty that was there), but he did single out the King of Saudi Arabia for honoring.... and the king didn't return the honor, did he.
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