God is the creator of evil
By Frederick42
@Frederick42 (2024)
Canada
April 15, 2009 9:32pm CST
"I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace and create evil. I the lord do all these things -- Isaiah 45:7"
This quotation should be enough proof that God is the creator of evil. For those argue that God is 100% good, I do not think they are interested in a serious discussion.
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@Amberina (1541)
• United States
16 Apr 09
I looked up the scripture and I was always told to read a few before it and a few after it and I have come to the conclusion that all this verse means is God is saying He created everything good and bad. I always knew he created satan but he also gave satan free will so when satan chose to do bad it wasn't God who made him do it.
@HawaiiGopher (1009)
• Belgium
16 Apr 09
How does that work out that? God is meant to be omniscient. When creating Satan He had to know what choices Satan would pick that eventually led him to being "evil." After all, being omniscient would mean that God knows everything concerning the past, the present and the future.
@kerriannc (4279)
• Jamaica
17 Apr 09
Yes God is omniscient. Yes maybe God know that lucifer would have done the deeds which he had done but also remember that he was an anointed angel one who has the full reign in heaven but yet his heart become envious because he had wanted me. Maybe God had know that this would happen maybe he didn't. It could have been that after what lucifer has done he begins to pay more attention about the happenings in heaven and so he applies the same principal now on earth. Remember that Jesus says that whatever is bound on earth is bound in heaven.
@shewolf52002 (1214)
• United States
16 Apr 09
Well, I think the correct description of God, is love. Have you ever created something evil? Are you the evil you created? I could use an more gross analogy, like what you leave in the bathroom every morning, are you what you have created in the commode?
Besides that the word translated as evil here is the Hebrew word ra, it means something that is "not good" or "spoiled"
Jeremiah 24:2 uses the same Hebrew word translated as bad... the figs were bad.. (my paraphrase)
This scripture points to the fact that nothing happens on earth without Gods knowledge. Evil and sin are complicated matters, sin entered the world when Adam and Eve disobeyed, they gave evil the right to act on the earth so to speak. They were given dominion and chose to give it away. So now evil and sin now run rampant. I am no scholar and am learning a lot of this along the way.
I trust God, love God and believe in God even when I am not sure I understand everything. Good Luck with your discussion.
@Adoniah (7513)
• United States
16 Apr 09
You are doing well! A good catch on "ra". One more thought, Jews concentrate more on doing Mitzvot(fullfilling commandments) than beating themselves up over minor transgretions. Major transgretions are important and must be rectified immediately, but minor ones are rectified at Yom Kippur thru prayer and asking of forgiveness. If you sin against a man, you must go to him and ask him directly for forgiveness. If you sin against Hashem, you must ask Him for forgiveness.
Shalom~Adoniah
@friendship (2084)
• Canada
20 Apr 09
God gave all of us a free will. To give a free will, we are given choices by God. If there is only one choice, we won't have a free will, right? For instance, love and hate. Since you have a free will, you can choose either love or hate. Thus, if you choose to love God, it will be yourself who made its decision because you have a free will to do so. If you chose evil, it is also your decision. Evil means that it is the absence of God because God is love.
@OneEyedGiant (181)
• Indonesia
18 Apr 09
Its so dificult to be a God, always be the accuser of all things have happen.
@OneEyedGiant (181)
• Indonesia
17 Apr 09
People are already the evil, who have destroyed the earth, greed of power and position, fight one each other, and all pain and sorrow.
@Adoniah (7513)
• United States
16 Apr 09
When you use a christian translation, you have to remember that it has been translated several times into several different languages. That aside. Hashem is the Creator of all things good and bad. That does not make Him bad and that does not mean that a person has to be bad. It just means that all options are on the table.
You have free will. You can choose to be good or bad or to slide along and mess up a little now and then. Or you can try and emulate the stories of the demons (who I do not believe in ) and be rotten to the core and not give a dam about anyone except yourself. That is the wonderful thing about free will!
But do not Blame Hashem for your failures. He has also given you every chance to NOT be BAD.
Shalom~Adoniah
@kerriannc (4279)
• Jamaica
16 Apr 09
lol you tends to used this one line to justified what you want to believe but if I remember this story well there was a famine and the people had turn their back on God. This is the story about Cyrus where God use him to bring his people out of bondage. Frederick why don't you tell the story how it is. Evil in this sense does not mean demonic evil but God will allow one to go through valleys so that he/she will come to understand and respect that God is the true and living God.
@1hopefulman (45120)
• Canada
17 Apr 09
Isaiah 45:7 (Today's New International Version)
7 I form the light and create darkness,
I bring prosperity and create disaster;
I, the LORD, do all these things.
The word "evil" is a poor translation of thy Hebrew word. A more correct word is calamity.
Isaiah 45:7 (Amplified Bible)
7I form the light and create darkness, I make peace [national well-being] and I create [physical] [a]evil (calamity); I am the Lord, Who does all these things.
God can control all things. If we put the verse in context, it's saying that Israel would experience peace but Babylon for it's mistreatment of God's people would experience calamity. Cyrus was the one that was used to bring calamity on Babylon, even though Babylon was a powerful empire. It fell in one night just as Daniel had interpreted the handwriting on the wall.
