Why and/or why not do you believe in God?

Very well worded. I was actually impressed by your answer to this question. Religion is a personal choice and should not be pushed on anyone.

I beg to differ,Again, It is for the people who don't believe in a creator, to prove existence... Science has yet to do so. Scientists do believe that there is some kind of consciousness that is surrounding the world and keeps everything in balance. What is this consciousness that keeps everything in perfect balance? Aristotle has said that the universe had a beginning and it started with a vision. Vision of how the world will be.. If it happened by chance, how could it be so perfect? You take one simple thing like the eye ball.. What an advance type of camera, that takes such a crisp and clean image. Better than any man made camera we see in the world today.. Now, can you imagine a camera being created itself? That's what you're saying! Because the eyeball is a camera. If you can prove to me that a camera can somehow create itself, i swear i will leave the belief in God once and for all. You talked about holocausts, poverty, and natural disasters.. Well, one thing about human beings is that we have been given choice. Wether you believe in God or not, we all know that we are able to choose from one thing or the other. Now, with given a choice, we are free to do whatever we will right? The choices we make effect us and the people around you, that's the natural law. It has to be that way. If i decide that i wanna jump off a building right now, its my choice, i can do it.. and if i do, i cannot blame God for making me jump off. So who made nuclear bombs? was it God or choice of human beings. Ofcourse God gave the means to us to create countless things. But, we chose to develop things which cause destruction.. Poverty, we can eliminate poverty if all the rich nations come together and sincerely help and follow justice. But No, people are greedy for power and money.. and yes because they choose to be that way. Being moral is a choice. Lack of justice is a choice by human beings not a fault of God. God created us with choice, which makes us responsible for our own actions. We have been given capabilities to do either do the right thing or the wrong thing. So this definitely does not prove that there is no God! You're saying that since there is all this disaster in the world, it proves that there can't be a God. It does not fit in, how do u connect it? Humans are responsible for their actions. As far as natural disasters and other sufferings. Without suffering in the world, even if u see it individually, there would have been no progression in life! Every time we are faced with some kind of disaster, we develop new technologies or find solutions which cause us to progress and move a step ahead. You say that humanity should have a trust with themselves to take care of the universe.. alright fair enough.. i agree with that.. But, how will humanity get together? If we all give up the belief in God? How will that help.. This gives a free pass to any person can to do whatever they like.. Morals don't matter anymore.. What for? Maybe a few people here and there who just want change.. but very few.. the majority of people, if they are not answerable for their actions.. what's stopping them to do whatever they want. This is already happening, most crimes in the world u see today is coming from people who have lost the belief in God or don't care about him, don't care about morals.. You see the child abuse, rapes, murders... No religion teaches this, and yet you see this all over the place, wayy more than the crimes committed in the name of religion. Even the crimes you see that are apparently because of religious differences, they are not true believers in God! They act as God, they care nothing of God and morals.. It's out of human selfish desire and their ego that this is happening.. If they were true followers of God, you would see nothing but peace. In the beginning of Every religion, they were all the same, they taught peace, harmony, love... It's the people who made the differences!! You see, its only in the true sincere belief in God that we can come together and make a change in the world.. In the one true God which will unite us all.. being moral for God, is different from being moral because of how you were raised.. If you're doing it for God, you leave your own selfish desires and go beyond.. and strive for perfection in being moral and kind.. Because you are not doing it to please others or personal satisfaction.. you're doing it for God, because you know you will find nearness to God if you take this way and excell in it. There's a difference!! You talked about childbirth.. Again, every person has to suffer to gain something.. Thats the law of life.. No pain, no gain.. when we study to become successful, you have to go through a struggle and suffer to get the reward of being successful.. That's true life, you learn through suffering! So childbirth is an example of that, its not some kind of punishment from God, it's very naive to say that! It's a beautifull design of God, how out of nothing, a healthy baby comes into this world.. and so life continues.. and keeps going!! And about the apple.. again, people make the differences.. The story of the apple is a symbol and requires another discussion in depth.. And the teaching of covering ourselves can only be seen in humans.. It shows the dividing line between us and humans, how fast we've evolved compared to animals.. so much so that we have thoughts of going to Mars.. can u conceive the idea that a dog could ever develop something as complex as a space shuttle and travel to the moon? Are we really at par with the animals?? Look how fast we're evolving still.. yet no animal has even come close to what we have accomplished in just 100 years.. Again, it is for you guys to prove that there is No God.. I can say much much more.. to further prove that there is.. I will as the discussion goes a long.. For now, i think this is sufficient..

Hello sataness!!! Well I have the pretty same feeling like you. I liked your response by the way. And that's why I felt like to add something more here. I am also the open minded person like you. I don't want to get bounded by the religions, but want to choose my own path. This does not mean to disobey the religion, but I would rather like to choose the good teaching from it. And still there are many things in this world that opposes the ideology of god like you said. Well I have responded above that you. There I have said that I believe in God. I said this only because I believe in Lord Buddha and Lord Jesus as they were person once. There are many different types of other gods having supernatural powers, but I feel them everything rubbish. Lord Buddha and Lord Jesus were people like you and me, and they were respected as God because they really showed light and taught good things to the people that can take the people to the path of enlightenment. And that's why people have considered them god. Like they are also people like us, I say every person could have been god. Don't you think so? Very nice response sataness! I like it...Keep mylotting...

Thanks for your compliment, and i admit i was empowered by your responce to insert my own. Its rare to find other people who use history of controlling methods of monarchy and religion to support their means. I'm impressed =P Happy mylotting x

So your actual rebuttal is 'consider the lily'? How is that even relevant to your post or mine? That's like quoting the bits about Herod to someone looking for child care solutions.

Don't you see the evidence? Everything that's here in this world is evidence! How can you prove its existence? Just because we can't see God with our eyes or hear him.. doesn't mean he doesn't exist.. Can we see radio waves? No! but we do know they exist because we've found a way to tune into these waves so that we can hear them. Similarly, in order to find God you need to tune in a special way to find him, and that is prayer which the prophets of God have taught us. But, sadly most of us think its a waste of time, they want God to just appear. God is not an object, we can see objects when light hits that object. God is something else, a spiritual being. So you have to reach him spiritually! But, in his creation you can find his existence. For instance when you see a beautiful rose, u have to wonder where it came from, the magnificent fragrance, the lush red colour.. where did it come from? was there an artist who made it.. or did it just create itself? Can magnificent painting paint itself? So how can the wondrous things we see in this world be there without a designer?

And what about the birds of the air?? They have to be able to feed their young and build a home. Only God could have made that possible for them! And if He cares for them like that, how much more He cares for us!!! (Matt 6:26) He allowed us to have the means to create jobs and work so that we may get paid and provide for our families. Granted, some of us (like myself) do not have jobs right now, but I know that because God loves me, He will make a way! Look at the flowers and their beauty! Look at the mountains and their splendor! What beauty! The trees knowing when to grow new leaves and when to let go of them! That can only be God!!!

As it says in Genesis 1 and 2 where it gives an account of how God created the earth and man. Very true! And not only did He give us physical life, but He also gave us spiritual life so that we may spend eternity with Him. How amazing is that?!!!!

the bible is no historic fact. if there was a GOD what makes us humans so special? the earth is less the a grain of sand on every beach on this planet compared to the rest of the universe. we are not that special face it

There must be a reason as to why you do not believe that God exists. Why is that?

I totally agree with you. Psalm 188:24 - "This is the day that the Lord has made, we will rejoice and be glad in it." It is always amazing that He gave us a new day, a new day to praise Him and walk with Him!