My friend is really starting to irritate me.

@Pleiades (846)
United States
April 28, 2009 11:38am CST
Here's the history: My friend and I met years ago at work and went our separate ways. It wasn't until last year we got back in touch. Now at the time we met he was married but then I married someone later. Now, we're both divorced and are quite possibly thinking perhaps we could have something between us. Here's the problem: My friend is probably one of the best people I have ever been around. For one, he's funny, loves to laugh and has never said anything bad to me. The man is only five years younger than I but it's almost as if he lacks the ability to communicate or capture faint hints of what I want or what I want to do with him. I've sent him emails, messages and IM but I don't know if he's ignoring me (which isn't quite possible) or if it's just coincidence that he logs off line as soon as I give him a message. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt but I'm tired of feeling like I'm the one doing the chasing and hunting down for his attention. Should I send him another message, asking him if he saw my previous two or five messages? Should I let him know that I don't deal well with things like this (particularly since my last boyfriend did the same thing...he'd go online for hours but never said "hi" or send me anything) and give him a time limit he'll have to shape up or ignore this...pretend nothing happened? No matter what happens, he'll always be a good friend because we've been through so many months without knowing where the other one was and when we got back, we picked up right where we left off. *Pleiades
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@smartie0317 (1610)
• United States
28 Apr 09
I wouldn't get with him. Keep him as a friend, at least for now. How long has it been since he got a divorce? Maybe it's been very soon, he's not looking for anything, or anything too serious. He seems a bit rude and self centered. I tried to start something with someone like this. Who I had to chase and wanted to play im and email games. Now, I'm glad we never got together. If he was "ignoring" you once or twice, you could say it was chance. I think he's being passive agressive. He wants it know he can't be bothered, but won't come out and say it. You can do better than this. You clearly want better, because he's like your ex and there's a reason your ex is your ex. O/t I love yuour name. :)
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@Pleiades (846)
• United States
28 Apr 09
Ouch...that hurt...but it was needed. He just doesn't seem like the type of person that would be self centered or rude, to be honest. I just think he truely didn't see it and got busy. But, it wasn't just one area I messaged him. So, do you think I should address this situation to him? Oh, and thanks for the name...I love it too :D *Pleiades
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• United States
28 Apr 09
Sorry, didn't mean to hurt your feelings. If I were you, I'd let it. I think forcing people to talk about issues, when they don't wish to speak in general, is not a good idea. He seems to be going through something, maybe not even an issue with you maybe just a general issue or stress. So, he might get annoyed if you try to talk to him about it. I say, let it go until he talks, calls, emails, ims you. Then say cuasually, "Oh, I've been so busy. How have you been?" and he might say what's been going on.
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@Pleiades (846)
• United States
28 Apr 09
Hhhhmmmm...you have a point. He called me one night and asked me on a near-date and said he'd call me the next night to make arrangements. He never called...or emailed. The night after we were supposed to have gone out, I saw he was online and left him a message asking if he remembered to call me. He called me right after and said that yes, he did forget, yes he went out BUT he had to deal with a buddy of his. Lovely... *Pleiades
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@sanuanu (11235)
• India
29 Apr 09
Is he a real friend or an online one? If he is a real one then you can directly meet him to ask if he is too busy to read your messages or what?I think face to face talking is better than sending emails message or IMs. One time can be a coincidence but every time can't be. So, I think that he is ignoring you and do't want you as his life partner. Better that you talk to him face to face!
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@sanuanu (11235)
• India
29 Apr 09
I know it is hard but sooner or later you have to propose to him, right? So, you have to make a move on because even if it is 21st Century but still face to face communication always has an upper edge compared to other mode of communication. I mean both of you have been a good friends in past, thus, I belive even if he will reject your offer(which I am sure he will not), then also he can be your friend, sin't it?
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@Pleiades (846)
• United States
29 Apr 09
I'd love to but he lives almost two hours away.
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@Pleiades (846)
• United States
29 Apr 09
*Pleiades
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• Canada
28 Apr 09
I won't tell you what to do but I can certainly share a similar experience. I was in a long-distance relationship for awhile (we eventually married) and, during that time, he did a lot of what your friend is doing. He'd be online and go AFK when I logged in or he'd send me one line saying, "Oh great, you get here just when I have to go." It used to frustrate me but I put up with it. I, too, felt like I was reaching out, trying to communicate, but he would acknowledge messages or emails when it suited him. Years later, he told me that he didn't think he had to work very hard to be with me because I was always there. He says he took it for granted, after awhile, that he could do what he wanted and I "wasn't going to go anywhere." It's a sad thing, in retrospect. Don't be the one doing all the work. On the one hand, he might feel like you are hounding him by sending a lot of messages or emails. On the other hand, he might have the same attitude I just described and assume you're going to be waiting there no matter when he decides to answer you. If you really think there is a possibility of a relationship, be honest with him upfront (well, if you can get him to pay attention! LOL). I've been a person who thinks that others will "capture faint hints" or read my mind and know what I want, need or expect. Trust me when I say that doesn't work out well. You are starting from the base of a very good friendship and that's awesome! If you feel there's a relationship to be built, I think you'll have to work at establishing a solid foundation for it. Don't rely on hints, innuendos, guessing or supposing. Best of luck to you!! :)
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• Canada
29 Apr 09
We are very much alike, Pleiades. When I care about someone, I like to do the same thing... send them short emails or offline messages to let them know they are in my thoughts. Don't you agree that, for people like us, it's sort of hurtful not to receive any in return - late or otherwise? I don't think we do those things "expecting" a response but we really hope there will be one all the same. I read your comment where you said he was supposed to call you for a date and he "forgot"?? That must have stung :( Do you know if he has a lot going on in his personal life? Is he extraordinarily busy with work? It just seems... odd. I laughed at your grade schoolish comment LOL But I know what you mean. There's nothing more frustrating, in these days of online communication, to see someone's screen name there and not be able to get their attention. You can't help but get all sorts of ideas running through your mind about what else is occupying their time. If you do have mutual friends, maybe you can casually ask one of them if they've heard from him? Rather than asking them to put you both in contact, just do a little recon *grin*
@Pleiades (846)
• United States
29 Apr 09
It more than "stung"...it hurt deeply. He apologized and called me as soon as he realized so that's a point for him. There are lots of other things you mentioned in your newest comment, but I can't see that one, only the original one. But you brought up so many good points. *Pleiades
@Pleiades (846)
• United States
28 Apr 09
That's the hardest thing for me to do: be silent. I'm the type of person that when I care for someone, I want to leave messages and stuff to let him know that I'm thinking of him and blah blah blah. But, I haven't messaged him in several weeks prior to the last batch. For one, I got busy but I also wanted to know what he'd do. About the trying to get his attention, I've almost thought of having a mutual friend message him, letting him know I'm trying to get a hold of him...but that sounds so grade schoolish...I'm an adult for heaven's sake. *lol* *Pleiades
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@CatsandDogs (13963)
• United States
29 Apr 09
I wouldn't do anything else at all and let him do the chasing because after all, you've done all the chasing so now it's his turn. One time is one thing but numerous times of not responding back is not a coincidence so it's time to let go and move on and see what he does. If he does nothing then you'll know where you stand. Just good friends.
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@CatsandDogs (13963)
• United States
29 Apr 09
You have my curiosity going, what is it that you have to do for him? Or want to do for him?
@Pleiades (846)
• United States
29 Apr 09
My thoughts exactly...but, there are things I need to do for him before I completely step back to watch what he does. *Pleiades
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• United States
29 Apr 09
I wouldn't try anything with this guy. The thing is, before you start dating a guy normally thats when they try their hardest, and if the guy isn't doing anything at this point, I don't want to even think about how he is going to be if you guys did start to date. Plus, if it doesn't seem like its going to work out from the get go there is no reason to believe that dating is going to change much. I would say, stay friends with him instead of possibly ruining a friendship which seems to be great for you. Maybe later down the road he'll start trying, but I would back off and just give him his space, because maybe thats the reason he isn't talking to you - he wants space because he knows you like him and he doesn't want anything so therefore he feels if he backs off you'll back off and things won't get awkward.
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@Pleiades (846)
• United States
29 Apr 09
I liked your answer...because that's what I was thinking about today. Too bad Mylot won't allow you to do "updates" for your discussions...ugh...but anywho, I'll give him his space, I'll step back but I won't step out of his life. I mentioned doing that before and he asked me not to do that...he asked me to "not give up on him". Now, the ball is in his court. Let's see if he serves a good hit or if he hits one out of bounds. *Pleiades
• United States
29 Apr 09
Maybe he's done something or gotten into something that might hurt you in a way and he doesn't want that so he just tries to push you out of the danger like another maybe girl.
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@Pleiades (846)
• United States
29 Apr 09
If it is another woman than I'm more than happy for him. He deserves to find the best person out there for his love, comfort and peace. *Pleiades
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• India
29 Apr 09
I think you can keep in touch with him on other less sensitive and everyday issues. Since you both are friends and have known each other, there’s bound to be topics of mutual interest between you both. See if he replies to them and if he does, then you should take the hint that he wants to remain just as a friend.
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@zed_k4 (17589)
• Singapore
29 Apr 09
I think he has moved on, without you. Or perhaps it's a case of him trying to keep in touch with you but at one point, you were not there too. It's such a pity, I hope he keeps in touch with you back, or perhaps you guys meet again through online or something.
@Pleiades (846)
• United States
29 Apr 09
I'll always keep in touch with that man. We've lost track for several years before but we always find our way back again. *Pleiades
@Jae2619 (1483)
• United States
29 Apr 09
When you say, "Now, we're both divorced and are quite possibly thinking perhaps we could have something between us." Is this a mutal thing, or are you thinking this. If only you have thought about this, then maybe that's why he's not putting to much effort into getting back in touch with you when you leave him messages. He only sees you as a friend and sometimes friend lack the common sense to reply back to messages. If this was something you both have talked about then I would have to go directly to him and talk with you about everything. He may have gotten cold feet and feels he's not ready to jump into a relationship and feels avoiding you is better than having to face you and own up to the truth. I think it's probably the best would be to just talk with him, find out what's up, and go from there. It may be the best to just be friends, instead of trying to throw a relationship into a great friendship!
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@Ritchelle (3790)
• Philippines
29 Apr 09
the always best way to see if a decision is right or wrong is envision it playing on the screen. with what is going on do you think you would gain critical aprroval or even audience approval with your actions? no offense. sometimes we have to step out of the mountain to see its true shape. let us not confuse the trees with a forest.
@CHORES (229)
• China
29 Apr 09
well,the best way to solve it is tell him directly.If you really like him, why do you mind whether you chase him or he chases you?But if he just want to be your friends,you also let him know hoe it feels when every message is not answered. Sometimes, being direct is the best way to solve problem.
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