would you prefer to keep telling a lie just to get a better job?
By cassandradab
@cassandradab (400)
South Korea
April 28, 2009 5:44pm CST
I know some friends not really a close friends, due to financial problem i'm sure. they make their papers fake,like they made their diploma and school records fake just to get a high salary and to work as proffesional. mostly are teacher here in korea,not only asian but also native speakers did it.now korea has been warned about that rumors that spread in the country,some of them just finished elementary or high school and make their papers fake.just to get that job.sometimes i felt cheated and sometimes felt ashamed,if i know one of my fellow country friends did it.why?i been in very hard time to study during my college.as a working student its not easy to study while working.it's because i want to get my goals.but when i arrived here, out 0f 100 there are 70 people are not a college graduate.but they have a better job than me, but the problem is how about government will know about them? do you think they have a peace of mind while working?and get lots of money while they keep a secret behind? but the most irretating part is sometimes those people are very strong to discriminate their fellowmen.what a shame isn't it? acting like they are the best. they are better than other, but if you just only know you can shake your head off,
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15 responses
@yuhesky (142)
• China
29 Apr 09
maybe sometime we need lie ,you konw some company kick you away for diploma.And the first thing they want to konw is the level of your diploma .They hardly think about your ability. then you need to give good lie . After that you need to show off youself then told the fact.
@cassandradab (400)
• South Korea
29 Apr 09
but sometimes we have to thing about the cons lets think about the other people and if ever you did it dont make your self that you are best.accept your fault and dont let the other person down,be fair to other. i don't care if what kind of school you graduated or what kind of people you are jsut make you own business and dont touch my own.
@celebratelifeh (1142)
• China
29 Apr 09
though honest is appreciated i think most of us need to tell some whitelie on the interview. no one willing to tell their real disadvantage and lose the chance to have a better job. and no company will hire a staff have lots shortages . even myelf also will show the interviewers my best though sometimes i also have disadvantage to some specific. that's allowed i think.
@cassandradab (400)
• South Korea
29 Apr 09
yest sometimes if we need to tell some whitelie is acceptable. but how about if you will discover that one of your co worker is just only an elementary graduate or high school and acting like she has a very high standard than you,and want you to follow her.or let me say she acting like proffesional one. instead of helping you she find way to put you down.
@se7enthbird (8307)
• Philippines
29 Apr 09
i dont think that you can get away on it, you can tell all the lies you want but it will still show in your performance. maybe i am just speaking on the jobs or worl i know, but not for the jobs that i have no knowledge. i am in a band so no matter how many lies you say the people will still notice if it is true or not depeds on the performance you will show. but on office works i dont know. but for me it is better to lay all your cards and tell them what you see is what they will get. wearinga mask or telling lies will just hurt you in the end.
@cassandradab (400)
• South Korea
29 Apr 09
that's why, they made out reputation down,we asian already have been disciminated and also some people did it over and over.yes those people get the very big advantages,but if how much they recieve they are 2 open hand to recieved it.but for those people to strive to study just to get that job and wanted to have a better salary than other,but cannot its because they can't believed anymore.also managements fault sometimes,if they know the applicants are english spoken specially native speaker they dont even bother to look out about the background etc. if they are strict i'm sure no once can go for this kind of job.
@celestial052506 (2914)
• Philippines
28 Apr 09
What???? I am just wondering if they did their job well, with the fact that they are not trained in that area. How can they be an effective teacher if they don't even know what are the principles of teaching? Do they know how to make lesson plans? hahaha That is really impossible. I don't believe an elementary graduate knows how to teach effectively. What kind of subject they handled? I could not imagine they have that nerve to cheat their employers.
@cassandradab (400)
• South Korea
29 Apr 09
that ahamed and shake my head for those people who keep lying beside their true colors.they just study some, i think learn from experience. you know people if they wanted they will find way to get that. yes thats really true.but sometimes i wonder how they did it?how about the interviews?the actual demonstration? personal interviews with employer?i been there even i finished my course i felt so nervous for the first time, shaken my knees.haha but i dont know maybe they have a strong feeling and very selff confident.
@sweetashoney (3597)
• United States
29 Apr 09
How are these people able to keep their jobs once they get them? I seems like the staff at would be able to figure it out, that they have only finished elementary or high school. I once put in for a job that said your had to have a college education, after I had been employed for a while and started talking to so other that had been there for a while also, I found out there were people there that hadn't ever graduated from high school. It kind of made me mad when I found out, because I couldn't understand why that was one of the qualification put in the job add if they didn't go by that when hiring others.
@cassandradab (400)
• South Korea
29 Apr 09
YES you got it right! its not easy to go for the job you even don't have any experienced about that field.but they wanted that job i know they make their self well prepared.buit i know what ever tey want to do if the colored dress join on the white white sure the colored drink will go out,so there is no lie can hide.just felt ashamed why my fellow or the other native also did it.also im worried about my kids someday.i can't able to trust whom i should.
@dmrone (746)
• United States
28 Apr 09
Hi! No i would not lie to get a better job, or a job period. If i could not get a job because of my experience and education, then i sure don't want to get it because i lied. I know some people who have lied to geta job, and to get better pay, but i just couldn't do that.
@cassandradab (400)
• South Korea
29 Apr 09
yes i think so,better to be true to your self that to hide in the darkness,if you can't get that job try to find that fit to you.don't try to damaged the reputation of your fellowmen,
@paulsy (1263)
• Philippines
29 Apr 09
Nope I wouldn't. It would never do me any good to lie just to get a better job. Pretty soon they would find out the truth. That would be so humiliating! Just keep your head up and always be honest. For as long as you are honest, you have nothing to hide. Those dishonest people may be jubilant now, but their downfall will be something that you will never have to experience in your life!
@Modestah (11179)
• United States
29 Apr 09
I do not think it is ever alright to lie.
those who are falsifying papers like you mention above, I would think are guilty of fraud.
yes, it is very scarey to think that those in government - those with authority over you may have gotten there by fraud and decite... and that would be just the type of person to take the attitude that you mention.
keep your conscience clean it will all work out in the end.
@Elixiress (3878)
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29 Apr 09
I wouldn't lie to get a job, well I may tell a little white one such as "I am always on time" when I am sometimes late, but I wouldn't lie about having GCSE's that I didn't have etc, because things like that will catch up with you and will have really bad consequences. There is also no need to lie to get a job in this day and age as there are so many vocational courses that you can take, quick tests to get a maths/English qualification equivalent. I would rather get a job knowing that I deserved it, rather than looking over my shoulder worrying that someone would find out.
@cfmedrano (240)
• Philippines
29 Apr 09
I am so sure that they cannot sleep well at night. Working your way through something that you want will really benefit you. They might cheat and succeed but it will only be for awhile. Soon, this will be figured out because i believe that all wrong doings have a way of being brought out in the open. So do not be worried if you are not getting the best job even if you worked for it by really finishing school because in the end, you will really get what you deserve and worked hard for. Just always believe in yourself and your capacity and ability to make things work. People like them will never have a peace of mind and human as they are, their conscience will really kill them. You won't even know that deep in themselves, they wanted to go back to school because I bet, they see the difference between finishing school and not getting to finish it. Have a great day!
@Ritchelle (3790)
• Philippines
29 Apr 09
a good employer knows a liar the moment he talks to one. a better employer knows a liar and hires them for they know what goes around comes around. you lie you get a lie. maybe not now but the end is always there waiting...
peace!
peace!
@kang_artha (88)
• Indonesia
29 Apr 09
shame....i wouldnt do that. If we wanna get a better job, we dont need to lie, just telling the truth, cause truth always lasting longger than lies. Ive been through this last years, its very hard looking for a better job without lies..but finally i did it!!!i get better job without lies
@prinzcy (32305)
• Malaysia
29 Apr 09
They can put up those lie but things will be different when they start working. Eventually, the truth will reveal itself. I prefer to find a job with my qualification and never lie about it. That way I will be more satisfied with my earnings and doesn't have any guilty thought about it.
I don't know anyone around me that lie for a job. Usually they use connection. Those who know someone with high position tend to use him/her for the job's recommendation.
@cutee_ash14 (2)
• Philippines
29 Apr 09
hi to all readers from different places, with different cultures, races and living in different society..We all know that nowadays, due to financial crisis people make ways just to have a job that will sustain to their needs, not only with ther own needs but also to their family..
For my own opinion, I will rather don't like to have a job if that's only I should do. It's because how can I perform to that necessary job if i had the calling of my conscience right?
I have my own principles and it's not a part of my vocabulary.. I'll admit that I tell a lie but not like that. I don't want to have fake records all I want is true because I do believe in KArma and God is always watching us for all the things that we have done to our life.
And mostly, I don't want to make my name very dirty
