When Will Hannity Be Water-Boarded "For the Troops' Families"?
By anniepa
@anniepa (27955)
United States
May 2, 2009 12:52am CST
Here's the conversation that took place between Sean Hannity and Charles Grodin over a week ago:
GRODIN: You're for torture.
HANNITY: I am for enhanced interrogation.
GRODIN: You don't believe it's torture. Have you ever been waterboarded?
HANNITY: No, but Ollie North has and talked to me about it.
GRODIN: Would you consent to be waterboarded so we can get the truth out of you? We can waterboard you?
HANNITY: Sure. ... I'll do it for charity. I'll let you do it. ... I'll do it for the troops' families.
The next night on Countdown Keith Olbermann took him up on it and offered to give $1000 for every second Hannity could take being water-boarded. That was about a week and a half ago and Hannity hasn't mentioned it since although Keith has repeated his offer just about every night.
What's the matter, Sean - aren't you up to the challenge? He said he'd do it without a moment's hesitation on the air. I don't think he's man enough to do it!
Annie
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@iriscot (1289)
• United States
2 May 09
It looks like Hannity not only spreads lies about the Dems, he is a lier! He's probable afraid he can't keep his mouth shut long enough to keep from drowning. WHAT A JERK!!! Just think, he could raise $600,000 for cancer research in only 10 minutes of "water boarding"......
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
2 May 09
Iris, I think you're right about him not being able to keep his mouth shut! Taskr, I'm not saying I want anybody to be water-boarded for having a different political view. It was Hannity who said he'd do it, nobody just out of the blue said they wanted him to be tortured.
Annie
@seacaucus4 (68)
• United States
2 May 09
There is a cottage industry now of journalists offering themselves to be water-boarded, to be able to write about it and say they'd been through it.
Here's the problem: when you know it's just an experiment and you can stop whenever you want, it's not really water-boarding.
Try it after 6 months of little human contact, in a foreign country, when you're in shackles, with no legal protections. Try it with all the added layers of no one really knowing where you are, and no assurances that you'll get out of the experiment alive, and no accountability for those who are doing it to you or those above them.
Then maybe you start to approach the terror, when your very breath is being taken away from you. And that's when you start to make things up, or tell people whatever it is you think they want to hear.
Just having a journalist take a cab over and have an ex-Army guy water-board him for a few minutes is silliness: that tells you nothing.
See, for one instance among many, http://open.salon.com/blog/tom_cordle/2009/04/25/i_was_water-boarded
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@iriscot (1289)
• United States
3 May 09
I agree sea, I understand one prisoner was water boared 78 or 87 times. Some say that Bush and Cheney should be prosecuted for their torture of those prisoners. Others say that Obama should pardon Bush and Cheney, that way the truth would be solidified. But, it looks like they will get off scot free!
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
2 May 09
I knew that Hannity made that statement, but I didn't know Olbermann took him up on it. Hell, if he wimps out I'd do it. $1000 per second? Even if he wimps out at the first second that's a clean thousand going to charity. Now's time for him to man up and put his, or Olbermann's, money where his mouth is. Charities could use that.
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
2 May 09
In all fairness, X, it wasn't Keith who ran his mouth and made it seem like water-boarding wasn't a big deal; how was it he put it - holding a wet towel on your face or something to that effect? I'll have to try to find the transcript but I can't remember exactly which show it was on or what date, but Lawrence O'Donnell said one night that neither he, Sean Hannity, D1ck Cheney nor maybe another one or two he mentioned would never be able to handle something like water-boarding, that it maybe WOULD work on them because they're cowards. Remember, he included himself in that and I think he included another liberal who was with him on the show. The point he was trying to make wasn't the put-down of Hannity and Cheney that it may have seemed at first but he was saying that some people, members of our military and terrorists like al Qaeda members share a deep commitment to their cause that most of the rest of us don't have. In other words, torture likely would work on me, Lawrence O'Donnell and Sean Hannity but it won't work on the ones we really want it to work on.
PLEASE don't misunderstand and take me to be favorably comparing our troops to terrorists because I'm NOT! Our troops are very well-trained and conditioned and by their very nature they're loyal and totally committed to serving and protecting our country. Terrorists have their own sick beliefs and agenda. The point is either group would be much more likely to resist giving up anything important to their cause and would tell the torturers what they think they want to hear even if it's not the truth.
Annie
@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
3 May 09
In all fairness, X, it wasn't Keith who ran his mouth and made it seem like water-boarding wasn't a big deal; how was it he put it - holding a wet towel on your face or something to that effect? I'll have to try to find the transcript but I can't remember exactly which show it was on or what date, but Lawrence O'Donnell said one night that neither he, Sean Hannity, D1ck Cheney nor maybe another one or two he mentioned would never be able to handle something like water-boarding, that it maybe WOULD work on them because they're cowards. Remember, he included himself in that and I think he included another liberal who was with him on the show. The point he was trying to make wasn't the put-down of Hannity and Cheney that it may have seemed at first but he was saying that some people, members of our military and terrorists like al Qaeda members share a deep commitment to their cause that most of the rest of us don't have. In other words, torture likely would work on me, Lawrence O'Donnell and Sean Hannity but it won't work on the ones we really want it to work on.
PLEASE don't misunderstand and take me to be favorably comparing our troops to terrorists because I'm NOT! Our troops are very well-trained and conditioned and by their very nature they're loyal and totally committed to serving and protecting our country. Terrorists have their own sick beliefs and agenda. The point is either group would be much more likely to resist giving up anything important to their cause and would tell the torturers what they think they want to hear even if it's not the truth.
No, but he couldn't resist reporting on it and he does frequently run his mouth, anyway, I wanna see him shut up for 5 minutes.
but about waterboarding, it is more a hazing stunt than torture, look all over youtube, like these drunk fools, they were one of a few dozen videos I found of such horseplay. And if a terrorist is a lot tougher, than waterboarding should be no big deal to them right? so as it may not be effective on most (though it was on some) perhaps we need to revise our strategy anyway.
But my point was, it isn't that bad, so hannity should put his money where his mouth is and get waterboarded and I would love to see Olberman be a man and do it too, especialy if a lout like hannity can do it.
@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
2 May 09
That is so weird that someone would agree to be waterboarded. Maybe we should have everyone that agrees with torture to be tortured and see if then they still agree. Torture makes us as a country no different that Iraq with Saddam Hussein in power.
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
2 May 09
Pouring water over someone's face is a far cry from using chemical weapons to ethnically cleanse your own country. If you think waterboarding is torture, and that's a perfectly logical belief, just take a look at what torture is in the middle east. We here in America don't have the stomach to see what real torture is.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/04/30/uae.torture/index.html
@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
3 May 09
Actually snd no matter how much I think Hannity is an a$$ I wouldn't want to see him waterboarded, shouldn't assume things you know nothing about. I'm simply stating that if all of the people that are for torturing people were to be waterboarded than maybe they too would begin to realize how it sucks to drown.
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@Blondieblue (67)
• United States
2 May 09
I heard about that. If he does it, I hope it's put on TV! maybe he'll rethink his stance, if he actually did go through with it; which I doubt he will too.
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@Blondieblue (67)
• United States
2 May 09
Yea, be one time I wouldn't mind watching him either; I'd even order it on pay per view :)
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
2 May 09
I am curious Annie, how does it feel to know that your favorite commentator is a hypocrite who claims to oppose waterboarding terrorists responsible for thousands of innocent deaths, believes it is torture, but is willing to pay thousands, even hundreds of thousands of dollars to waterboard someone just because he disagrees with him politically?
@anniepa (27955)
• United States
3 May 09
Taskr, I'm not sure if you guys are feigning ignorance or if you REALLY DON'T GET IT! My " favorite commentator" isn't the hypocrite; Hannity is the hypocrite for refusing to make good on his promise after claiming for ages that he doesn't believe waterboarding is torture.
Rose, it was DANNY Pearl, not David, and as horrible as what happened to him was it has nothing to do with this topic at all. The majority of Americans don't agree with YOU about torture. We don't torture, it's against our laws and has been for at least 60 years or so. Sean Hannity is a coward and he's not a reporter. No American who really loves his or her country would approve of these techniques.
Sndcain, again I don't know if you're playing dumb here or really believe your own words but Keith only made the offer of paying Hannity and donating it to the troops' families because Hannity said he'd do it. Also, there is no evidence water-boarding has saved a single life.
Annie
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
3 May 09
"Taskr, I'm not sure if you guys are feigning ignorance or if you REALLY DON'T GET IT! My " favorite commentator" isn't the hypocrite; Hannity is the hypocrite for refusing to make good on his promise after claiming for ages that he doesn't believe waterboarding is torture."
I completely get it. First off, I haven't heard Hannity refuse it, so it's too early to call him anything. If he does refuse it, it would be because he's a coward and a liar, but that doesn't meet the criteria for hypocrisy. He IS a hypocrite, just not because of this.
"We don't torture, it's against our laws and has been for at least 60 years or so."
If that's true, please show me the specific law that bans using torture against terrorists. They aren't American citizens or POWs so laws referring to either are invalid.
"No American who really loves his or her country would approve of these techniques."
So we're back to the "If you disagree with me you are anti-American"? Wasn't it you who was so offended by that in the past?
"Keith only made the offer of paying Hannity and donating it to the troops' families because Hannity said he'd do it."
He made the offer because he hates Hannity and wants to see it happen Annie. He wouldn't make this offer if "I" said I'd let someone waterboard me for charity. What if Hannity said "I'll let someone cut my arm off for charity"? That's torture. Would you pay thousands to see that happen? If all Olbermann wanted was to give money to troops' families, he'd do it. He could do it and make a public statement that waterboarding is wrong and he'll give the money to charity, but he does NOT want to see it used on anyone.
"Also, there is no evidence water-boarding has saved a single life."
That's because Obama decided to cherry pick what parts of the memos to release. His OWN National Intelligence Director, Dennis Blair has said that we received high value information from those interrogations that saved lives. I guess you don't even believe Obama's people if they don't say what you want to hear.
@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
2 May 09
Cripe, if a wimp like me can handle it than his sallyass aught to be able to. I can't stand Hannity but I may watch his show to see if he goes through with it. Or for that matter, I'll take Olberman up on that offer, I could use the money and I would relish the oportunity to shut that obnoxious failed sports commentator up.
@coolcoder (2018)
• United States
2 May 09
Sean gave this clown Olbermann an answer--yes, he'd do it. Olbermann--as per his usual arrogant habit toward those who dare disagree with him--resorted to taunting Hannity even after he got is 'yes' answer, which is what most of his ilk tend to do.