Why do families in shelters get food stamps?
By rareability
@rareability (129)
United States
May 3, 2009 9:11am CST
Everyone is crying about the economy, tell me why families who reside in city shelters throughout the United States receive food stamps? The shelter provides each resident with three meals a day? So why food stamps? Paper food stamps converted to a debit food stamp card to prevent fraud..........................Ha!
The receiptant has the ability to give the merchant their access card number(without the card) and in return will receive $.70 for every dollar of food stamps sold to the merchant(more cash for what?). Bad enough their no limit to how many times a person can declare themselves homeless and receive section 8 over and over again. When will a section 8 program be developed for the working struggling american? I wonder if I presented this to our new president will these issues be addressed? Feedback please, what do you think?
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@mommaj (23112)
• United States
3 May 09
I have been wondering this myself. I don't understand why the gov't assistance is set up for people who don't try. To receive cash assistance you can't make over $250 for a family of 4. Then you only receive $245. That's not enough money to provide shelter, electric or anything. When the economy was good section 8 was full and waiting lists were full. I completely see why some people give up. When my husband had a blood clot for a couple of weeks and couldn't work we weren't able to get any assistance. He didn't have insurance. The only people the government help are the lifelong bums. What about the people in the middle? We aren't poor enough to qualify for help but we aren't rich enough to provide basic necessities for our families?
Luckily we never got to the point of being homeless. My husband is back to work and we are barely making it on $1,000 a month. How do people do it?
@mommaj (23112)
• United States
3 May 09
That's so awful one doesn't know where to begin. Especially with the father. You may want to try to get at least medicaid or the state insurance for children. If you tried getting child support I am assuming she is under 18 years old. You might be able to get free health insurance at the least. We would love to see $20,000 income again. lol.
@irishidid (8687)
• United States
3 May 09
rare, my kids couldn't get child support because their father got himself on SSI. I was told it was "welfare" and they aren't eligible for any of it. I said if I got SSI I'd still be obligated to take care of my kids so why shouldn't he? The system is totally screwed up. Now he's buying a house with his SSI and still no child support. Something's really wrong there.
My daughter is over 21 now, but I did have to give my financial statement every year. Now I don't so they go strictly by hers and things are better. She receives both SSI and SSDI because she's worked.
@mommaj (23112)
• United States
3 May 09
That's just incredible. If you were on SS you would still have to provide for the kids, so what is the reasoning behind the fact since he is on SSI he couldn't give a certain percentage to the children? This government really is messed up. Even fathers who make peanuts still have to give up to 65% of their income to the child. Why shouldn't they have to give up gov't payments? Just ridiculous.
@grammasnook (1871)
• United States
3 May 09
First off shelters do not supply the food, each family is individually responsible for their own food. They can put it together as a "family" and shop together for families that may be sharing a same space.
The section 8 program is already set up for low income working people I do not know where you get your information from. You can go down and get on the list if you are within the guidlines financially you can be put on.
Like everything else it depends on your income. If there is a two parent home that are both working full time chances are you will not qualify for section 8. You also have to remember that a lot of the slots of section 8 are also taken up by people with disabilities as well not just the homeless.
@grammasnook (1871)
• United States
3 May 09
It only makes sense that homeless people are put on the list first, after all if you are not homeless you are making it somehow and have another place to go right. Section 8 lists all over the country has a huge waiting list.
I do take your opinions seriously. I also know that when a family goes to a shelter here in Mass they have to fill out a form and sign over their food stamps and they are put into one fund and then they have their budget. People that live on the streets here also get food stamps.
The problem isn't about section 8 it is about affordable housing, along with responsibilites of individuals. If they do not work together no program will work
I did not mean to come off the way I did, I know other states can have different rules and I do apologize for that. I just got tied up thinking of the shelters right here and how they work.
@rareability (129)
• United States
3 May 09
How about this, value my opinion as I do yours. I speaking from the state I leave in, so don't be so quick to say I am wrong. I have family member who is a cook for a large shelter and a friend who is a director of a shelter. Homeless people are priority so the waiting list for section 8. The working class waiting list is endless. Talk about the state in which you live state. If two states practice the same principles that two states too many. The money could be put to something else.The system is set-up to enable individual to stay depended on the system.
@starangel (414)
• United States
4 May 09
Most shelters that I know of across the country, only provide shelter. But they are located where many places surrounding the building offer food. For example, CASS in Phoenix only lets you sleep there for the night. at a certain time in the morning, they're kicked out to fend for themselves during the day. right across the street is a St. Peter's kitchen that feeds twice a day. their feeding times are about 14 hours apart so, you will see alot of homeless walking to different places that do offer food during the day. There's actually quite a lot if you know where to go. It's amazing because they eat better than we do. lol. I don't know much about my state, but enough to know that it's messed up. We're struggling for food right now. our cupboards are never full and I hardly eat so that the kids can eat. I know it will get better, soon, I just have to make do with what we have. I can't get food stamps because we don't qualify. we have to make a certain amount for a family of 4 and we make more than that. But if they would just look at our bills they would see that we don't make enough to cover them. electricity, water, car payments, insurance, etc. Most would say internet is a luxury, but I'm using it to go to school, so it's a necessity. These are things that we need, and it's a constant struggle to see what bills can we skip this month so we can get groceries. it doesn't matter, we're still in the hole. Oh, and section 8 got so full that applications have been closed for years. So, anyone who's homeless would be better off walking to another state.
I understand about what you mean. What about us in the middle, trying our hardest to survive but need a little help. What was it that someone said....we're not poor enough to get help, but we're not rich enough to get by. that is so true. it's maddening..there's help for the homeless, and there's privileges for the rich, but those of use in the middle are S.o.o.L. (S__t out of luck)
@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
3 May 09
"The receiptant has the ability to give the merchant their access card number(without the card) and in return will receive $.70 for every dollar of food stamps sold to the merchant(more cash for what?)"
As far as I know, that is BLATENTLY ilegal, are there shelters actually doing that??? If so, than there needs to be a little legal action taken. I remember hearing stories about people in california using hundreds of thousands in food stamps to buy houses, the food stamps were than traded on the black market at a simiar ratio. I guess there is still a black market, despite the switch to an ebt card.
I do hope the attorny general in the states this is happening in looks in to this.
@spalladino (17891)
• United States
3 May 09
Not the shelters, x, some merchants are doing it...mostly in low income areas where they process a lot of food stamp transactions. There are sting operations ongoing in many cities to try to combat this because it happens very often. The merchant pays the customer $.70 on the dollar and bills the state for the entire dollar so he makes a profit while ripping off the government.
@sid556 (30960)
• United States
4 May 09
I have no idea why someone in a shelter would get food stamps if they give them 3 meals per day. The shelter my friend was in charged her for food and she was allowed to have snack food and whatnot that she labeled with her name. My friend worked even tho she was homeless. it was all based on ability to pay.
as for section 8...it is based on your income. I am on it and I work full time.
@murderistic (2278)
• United States
3 May 09
Most families are only allowed to stay in a shelter for so many weeks. And as far as I'm aware shelters do not necessarily serve three meals a day, they only provide shelter and resources for homeless to find where meals will be served. You'll have to provide actual sources for me to give you any more of a response than that, haha.
@spalladino (17891)
• United States
3 May 09
As far as the abilitly to receive food stamps while living in a shelter, from the perspective of a computer geek, it's the way the eligibility system is set up. If you're eligible for for cash, medical and food stamp assistance, you get all three. There is nothing in the computer system to account for those living in shelters and, as MYKL pointed out, some shelters require you to provide your own food once you are receiving food stamps.
As to the Section 8 program, no there is no limit on the number of times one can apply but I do know from the experience of others that there has always been a serious shortage of certificates as well as public & low cost housing in Maryland so the waiting lists were long...sometimes several years long. You didn't have to be homeless to qualify, you only had to meet the income guidelines.
@kodigo (171)
• Philippines
3 May 09
As far as the Government is concern, They are doing this to prevent malnutrition, But the fact the after they consume these food stubs will not be a good everyday thing for the families receiving it and also for the Government. Why not give these families job or source of living, maybe providing some learning activities that will enable them to create stuffs that will generate income for them. That should be the tasks and responsibilities of the Government in this issue i think