Where Was the Garden of Eden?
@Chiang_Mai_boy (3882)
Thailand
May 4, 2009 4:56am CST
If the place where the species of modern humans first emerged is The Garden of Eden then we have been looking in the wrong place. New finding show that it is in southwest Africa near the Kalahari Desert. The problem is that there are no apple trees there.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/01/science/01eden.html?_r=1&em
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@sconibear (8016)
• United States
4 May 09
yes....it's true.....Eden floated to heaven on a magical balloon.
@Adoniah (7513)
• United States
5 May 09
I hate to burst everyone's bubble but the story of Eden is just that. There were never just two people to start the whole human race. For one thing, it is also a long told pagan story, not just a story in the Jewish Torah. If you read the Torah, you will also find that there are two different versions even there. It also was not an apple that they ate. That is a christian mistranslation or just a story some christian made up because they liked apples.
Someday people will finally come to the conclusion that parts of the Bible are just teaching stories like parables. No one was there when this happened, so no one saw it or knows the actual circumstance.
Not to mention, someday people (even evangelical christians) will finally come to the realization that evolution is not just theory, but fact. G'd started the whole process, but evolution with G'd's help carried it through.
Shalom~Adoniah
@freethinkingagent (2501)
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9 May 09
Yes the story originated 4000 years before Moses, it goes back to the Sumerians, Akkadians, and the Babylonians. From there it went to the Egyptians, Hebrews and Greeks. The Apple comes from the Greeks, not the Christians. Well seeing that Greeks still had an influence in the world with its writings and vast librerias, it is no wonder why Christian Mythology picked up on this retailing of the Greek version and added the apple to the story
@murderistic (2278)
• United States
6 May 09
But wouldn't the fact that the story of Adam and Eve existing before the Torah further legitimize it? I don't get it.
@sudiptacallingu (10879)
• India
4 May 09
Wow! I have always wondered about this Garden of Eden coz my one belief is that whatever the myths say, there had to be some truth in them, which got twisted down the centuries. This belief stems from the fact that my religion Hinduism is replete with mythological stories and characters.
Now back to Eden…yes, previously it was thought to be somewhere in the middle east deserts coz most of the biblical stories are based around that region. However, to merge Darwin’s theory of evolution and the Christian Church, it would be indeed very convenient if Eden was to be in Africa. Regarding apples, well there could be any other local fruit…after all, the Bible and all its surroundings and characters are distinctly created by the west (that’s what I feel) and apple is a very favoured fruit there!
But the real problem would be then that the Church would have to accept the first man and woman as Black (I mean NO OFFENCE here) and what would they do with their tens and thousands of biblical pictures showing men and women with peach and cream complexion and flowing brown hair with blue eyes? As it is, I am yet to see any picture of Jesus as a middle-east Asian…rather he is always depicted with European features and here we are talking about hallowed Genesis!
BTW…if any of my comments come across as racist, then I DON’T mean so, I have only stated facts as I comprehend them.
@Chiang_Mai_boy (3882)
• Thailand
5 May 09
DNA analysis does indicate that the species of anatomically modern humans emerged in Africa but it tells us nothing about there skin color.
@sudan707 (57)
• Israel
5 May 09
The bible God's word, still stands the test of times as the only authoritative source of true statements from God.
Though the Garden Of Eden is no longer in existence, The bible provides a clue to its former location in North Yemen.River Euphrates which has its head from the Garden of Eden still exists today, Read Genesis Chapter 2 vs 10-14
@freethinkingagent (2501)
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9 May 09
To understand where or what Eden is you must go back to the origanal texts of E'Den of Sumer. The Sumerians were the first to write of this place. he origin of the term "Eden", which in Hebrew means "delight", may lie with the Akkadian word edinu, which itself derives from the Sumerian term E.DIN. The Sumerian term means "plain" or "steppe", the Sumerians refer to Mesopotamia as the "valley of E'din", meaning the fertile lands between the Tigris and Euphrates. So In the original meaning, E'den or Eden was used to mean Mesopotamia or more to the point Sumer.
So God placed a garden East of/in E'den. The Sumerians believed that Heaven was in the eastern sky, Because looking in the east they could see the constellations rise and fall. So the first place to look for E'den would be the night sky. The story as taken up from the bible places Adam (man) and Eve (mother) in Eden along with the serpent and two trees, the tree of knowledge and the tree of life. Eve is Virgo in the eastern sky, Adam is the headsman. Eve (Virgo is seen holding a branch with fruit offering it to Adam (the headsman) Behind Eve is the constellation Ophiuchus (the serpent holder) but this constellation is also the tree of life and the tree of which man was not to partake of, the tree of knowledge is the tree of knowledge. The tree of Knowledge was heave itself. It had twelve branches which are the zodiac. It was this that man was not to pertake of. So the serpent who is Draco who's body twist through the zodiac and is therefore seen as entwined amongst the branches of the tree of Knowledge tempted Eve and she in turn tempted man.
The fall of man is depicted in the great wheel of the Zodiac when the herdsman and Virgo begin to fall into the horison, the tree of life, also now with the serpent now in its branches also begins to fall and the constellation Pursues rises with sword in hand seeming to be pushing man and woman out of the Garden (heaven). Poesies hods a flaming sword, flaming because most people know about the Pursues meteoroids that happen ever year, these meteors seem to come from the sword of Pursues, thus God sent an angel with a flaming sword to drive out the woman and man from Heaven and the garden and god walked with man know more as man as well as the serpent were cast down from heaven.
As above so below, The other meaning of this term "Garden of E'den" in the Sumerian was also a metaphor of a place of learning. The Learning for the Astrologers and Magi's. This place would have been lower mesopotamia, and is most likely under 50 foot of water now being flooded by the rising oceans after the great thaw of the last Ice Age, it has been lost for ever under the Persian Gulf.
@freethinkingagent (2501)
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11 May 09
Wow, I am really disappointed that my post went unanswered, I put a lot of thought into it.
@Chiang_Mai_boy (3882)
• Thailand
5 May 09
bhanusb you are creating a whole new theology here. What are you going to call your new religion?
@cool_jidson (14)
• Nigeria
4 May 09
I don't think the place discovered is the garden of Eden. For god to have guarded the place with angels it means He does not want anybody to see the place, and on one will ever see it!...
@Chiang_Mai_boy (3882)
• Thailand
5 May 09
Do you have a better candidate for the place that the modern human species emerged? If your definition of Eden is tied, in any way to reality than this is indeed Eden. Sometimes it is necessary to cast aside superstition and myth if you wish to view the world as it truly is.
@sconibear (8016)
• United States
4 May 09
The Garden of Eden is located right next door to The Magical Enchanted Forest.
god had to hide the garden because the pixies from the enchanted forest would take the unicorns over there to poop.
@redhotpogo (4401)
• United States
5 May 09
The earth has changed over time. What was isn't. And I wouldn't be looking for an apple tree. It does not say it was an apple tree. This tree was unique, so probably its not a fruit that we know of.