Wouldn't this be considered as murder?

@Humbug25 (12540)
May 4, 2009 1:06pm CST
Today in the news is a story about a young British woman who was caught with 680g (1.5lb) of heroin in the east Asian country of Laos, last August. Her trial is due to start tomorrow, has had no proper legal representation since she was jailed and faces death by firing squad. The other matter to this story is that she is 5 months pregnant. Now surely if she is found guilty and is sentenced to death wouldn't that be murder of the unborn child? Let me know what you think about this story. Link is in conjunction to the discussion - http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20090504/twl-mother-s-plea-over-jailed-daughter-41f21e0.html
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@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
4 May 09
This is an awful story of a young woman who apaprently may have been abandoned by her mother who is now in prison and has been presumably r*ped. It is so sad. I say that this is murder - definitely murder and I hope that she can be released from that h*ll hole. I hope that the whole country protrests until the Laotian Government does somehting about it.
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@Humbug25 (12540)
4 May 09
Hi ya cynthiann I am not sure about the abandonment and presumed r*pe but it is still an awful story. In the UK pregnant women are really looked after well knowing how nutrition is really important for someone in this condition but they are saying that she will not be fed well in the at all. I am sure that now the story has reached the prime time news someone in the legal sector will come forward and will be able to help her. I really hope so. Thanks for your response
@Humbug25 (12540)
4 May 09
Sure she does cynth and I really hope she gets it. She must feel so alone and scared at the moment, poor thing.
@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
4 May 09
Hi Humbu, I am presuming r*pe as she got pregnant in jail. However it could have been consensual. The mother had not seen her since December 2007 and that is sa long time. H*ll who am I to pass judgement, but it just seems as if she really needs help.
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@kellyjeanne (1576)
• United States
5 May 09
Yes, I would consider that murder! How sad that the unborn child has to also pay for the mother's crime! This is definitely an outrage and I so hope that this caused worldwide protest. Most of us know how harsh most other countries are concerning crimes of any kind. Many of these countries don't have any tolerance at all, but, if you know that the person who has committed the crime is pregnant at the very least have mercy on the unborn child!! This sickens me! Purrs, Catwoman=^..^= & Mija
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• United States
6 May 09
Thank goodness! Thanks for giving me an update on the situation. Purrs, Catwoman=^..^= & Mija
@riyasam (16556)
• India
5 May 09
i think the unborn child is innocent and should be given a chance.maybe,they should wait till the child is born,there are many organisation which will readily look after the child.
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@gongchhua (272)
• China
5 May 09
What a pity story. If the law allows the woman delivery the baby, and then let the woman response what she did. I think this can avoid the unborn baby been murdered. It is sorry, it can't be changed. I hope the mother do things should consider her unborn baby first.
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@tzaddi (395)
• Philippines
5 May 09
Well, I think that they'll be forced to perform an operation to give birth to the child, or a premature birth. Or they'll wait for the woman to reach nine months and give birth to the child normally. That's very sad to hear, however we must obey the rules and laws of our countries, and she went against it and therefore she must face the consequences of her actions.
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@Humbug25 (12540)
5 May 09
Hi there tzaddi This is true she must accept responsibility for her own actions, she is certainly not the first Brit to commit such a crime in another country and I am sure she won't be the last - unfortunately! Thanks for your response
@angelajoy (1825)
• Philippines
5 May 09
I would like to add that if the authorities do not exert enough effort to gather evidence to conclude if the woman is guilty or not, then this would definitely double murder.
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@Humbug25 (12540)
5 May 09
Hello again angelajoy Well in these countries that have extreme laws are known for not having fair trials but like I said above, it looks like her life has been spared anyway! Thankfully. Thanks again
• Philippines
5 May 09
Well, technically speaking yes. It's definitely a murder. The people that accused her didn't even noticed that the woman was carrying something in her womb. Poor child. Didn't even had the chance to fight for himself.
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@Humbug25 (12540)
5 May 09
Hi ya iceblade007 Thank you for your response
@p1kef1sh (45681)
4 May 09
Now that's a DEEP question Humbug. In the old days women could "plead their belly" if they were pregnant. That usually meant that they wouldn't be hanged until the child was weaned. In this case I suppose that it depends from what angle you want to take it. In a theological sense I would say that it is murder. But from a legal sense "What child?" As this is Laos she is within a totally different legal and moral framework to the ones that we are familiar with. I just hope that World opinion forces the Laotians to think this one through very carefully. But I'm not holding my breath.
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@Humbug25 (12540)
4 May 09
Hi ya p1kef1sh Tis kinda deep for me huh? I totally understand what you are saying, a baby isn't a baby until is born and all that but it is still a living thing inside of someone. I too hope that world opinion is taken into consideration but like you I am not holding my breath either. Thanks for your response
@lyzabelle (1668)
• Philippines
5 May 09
I felt sorry for the young woman especially that she is pregnant. I suggest that she got to give birth the baby first before she will face her punishment. The baby is innocent, he or she deserves to see this world come what may.
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@Humbug25 (12540)
5 May 09
Hi ya Iyzabelle I am sure that by the time the trial comes to an end that she will have had her baby. Thanks for your response
@dmrone (746)
• United States
4 May 09
It would seem like murder to me. The unborn child did not make the mother do as she did. The mother broke the law not the unborn baby.
• China
5 May 09
i don't think so. you will [pay for what you did. they will let her deliver the baby before execute.
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@Humbug25 (12540)
5 May 09
Hi anniecheung216 I hope you are right! That poor child will have to deal with the truth about it's mother when it is old enough to be told. Thanks for the response
@jugsjugs (12967)
6 May 09
I must agree in my eyes that sound like murder,i dont agree to killing someone and as for an unborn child that is horrific.If they still kill there would be a large out cry.Im shocked that she has had no proper legal help.
@angelajoy (1825)
• Philippines
5 May 09
Yes, it is murder. So the mother apparently committed a crime, but what does her baby have to do with anything? It's innocent. If the mother is really guilty, the authorities should think of a punishment that would not kill the baby.
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