If I can't accept critisism for my discussion, I have no right to..

@sanuanu (11235)
India
May 4, 2009 8:15pm CST
start a discussion. I always try to be a foot or two away from politics or religious topics but still there can be discussions for which I will be a little against the ideas provided but today one user(I totally respect this person) got mad at me because I was the only one who offended her topic. This user was like thanking each and everyone who supported and what reward I got, I got a do not disturb board from this user. I won't say that I am very strong person, which I am not but still I am always in search of those who are not agreeing with my point. The quality is what required, not the difference in thinking, isn't it? More than that if I am trying to help then I got those words. It was disturbing, very much disturbing and if these things are going to follow in recent future, I will restrict myself only for creating discussion.
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21 responses
• United States
5 May 09
Sanu- Welcome to the world of those who cannot stand to be challenged, disagreed with, or made to think from a different point of view. I've read a number of your threads and though you can have a difference of opinion I've never seen you be rude about it. You don't seem to resort to name-calling, etc, which sadly seems to occur quite frequently in the politics and religion interest sections. The original poster should have respected your right to a difference of opinion, and at least given you a positive ranking (if that is what you were referring to by rewards) if you had written a well thought out response. Of course, that said, the true holds same to all of us. We all must be willing to look at things from different perspectives, and then be able to respond accordingly even if we disagree. It doesn't mean that I'm saying agree all of the time. However, if we all stayed away from name-calling, showboating, etc and stuck to the facts of those types of discussions we could all learn quite a bit. We also may be able to come up with solutions. Something that has always bothered me about discussing politics online is that most people simply want to complain. They want to say how bad things are, how poor things are, but when asked to come up with real, viable solutions they can offer none. I'm a person who believes if you're going to complain, you best have a solution for what you are complaining about. I know these types of situations can prove to be hurtful and discouraging, but don't let it get you down too much. You have a lot to offer in conversations. Namaste-Anora
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@sanuanu (11235)
• India
5 May 09
No, I don't know about ranking and all, it is none of my concern(although, I know that she gave me negative). The concern is that she yelled at me and kicked me out of her friends list, which made me mad! I'm a person who believes if you're going to complain, you best have a solution for what you are complaining about. Exactly but at the same time, I must have a patinece to listen to others point and who knows they are better to I! Well, it was a patch of time when I even got deeply sad which allowed tears to come and have a little dance on my chicks but now I am fine! Thank you very much.
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@sanuanu (11235)
• India
5 May 09
*Cheeks*
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• United States
26 May 09
Sanu- Thanks for the BR. I'm glad to see you are still posting wonderful new discussions, and being active on Mylot. You've a lot to offer, and it's nice to see you discussing things with respect. Milk- I so agree with you. If we could all accept that others have a differing view, and understand we may learn something from it we could learn to discuss things in a civil manner. Namaste-Anora
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@techgurl (451)
• Greece
5 May 09
Some people do not take it easily or even get offended if someone has different opinion than their own. We are all different, we all have different beliefs and views on things. We can't expect everyone to agree with us at all times and we need to respect (or at least try) other peoples opinions. But sometimes it is not what your opinion is, but how you express it. So I think we also need to be careful how we deliver our thoughts on an issue and show the other person that their opinion matters as well even though it is opposite to our own.
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@sid556 (30959)
• United States
5 May 09
please pm me to see this discussion. I looked thru so many that you responded to and saw nothing that was anything like this. If someone did this to you then it is horribly wrong.
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@sanuanu (11235)
• India
5 May 09
Hi Techgulr, I like your avatar very much and the profile is also very attractive She was rude, not only rude but ordering me to get out from her friends list, which eventually I did but not without tears in my eyes. yes, it was one of the worst responses I have ever get from any one. I wonder how did I mange to make friendship with her. I respect her a lot because she is quite older to I and must be possessing much more experience than me!
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@jazzsue58 (2666)
5 May 09
i found it - it's actually one I replied to as well (umm...) You know what - this lady must have been on a mood swing or something cos other people said more or less the same thing and didn't get sworn at.
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@paula27661 (15811)
• Australia
5 May 09
It sounds like an awful experience sanuanu! I can see why it upset you although I don't know which discussion you are referring to so it is hard to make a proper comment. I don't understand why people get angry just because someone disagrees with them; I thought that's what a discussion group was all about! If you want me to comment further let me know which discussion it was.
@sanuanu (11235)
• India
6 May 09
For the sake of privacy I don't want to take her name publicly. This will give her negative publicity, isn't ti?
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@paula27661 (15811)
• Australia
6 May 09
That is fair enough of course you must respect her privacy too I understand...
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@Yori88 (1465)
• Philippines
5 May 09
I also can't understand why some people are close-minded. Why can't they accept that we are all different and our ideas and opinions differ too? I hate people who offend others and so I feel sorry for what happened to you. I have a responded to a lot of topics here presenting a different idea but gladly no one fought over me or told me offending words. I agree with you that we should take each response base on the content and on the quality and not on the opinion itself. We all differ and that makes every discussion here interesting, educational and enjoyable.
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@sanuanu (11235)
• India
6 May 09
YOu are lucky but then again it depends on our luck too, I mean the same response could be read with different intention and people can make out different meaning of the same response, if they want to!
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@bing28 (3795)
• Philippines
5 May 09
I found the discussion healthy when there are both positive and negative views. However if there are negative opinions that are quite offending I don't say a word first. I might as well think twice on what to comment as I don't want to offend others as well. There are constructive criticisms, where we learned though they might offend us a little. That's life however in writing, we have to welcome criticisms in order for us improve or grow.
@sanuanu (11235)
• India
5 May 09
Hi Bing, how are you doing? Most of the people can't take critisism in a healthy way but I always like to have some opposite thoughts for my discussion and what I look for is the quality in that post. if there is no quality in posts which is supporting me is not worth but a post with high quality which is opposing me discussion, can be a BR for my discussion!
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@jazzsue58 (2666)
5 May 09
That's a shame - surely if people create something that might inflame a negative response, that proves it's a discussion. Isn't a discussion about differing points of view? It's not you who shouldn't reply, it's people like this who shouldn't post discussions if they don't want to hear anything but their own POV. I invite you to totally disagree with what I've just said - I won't mind!
@sanuanu (11235)
• India
5 May 09
May be they want to hear from us that they are always right, which is a little difficult for me. I always try to be polite but there is a limit in online talking and we can't include emotions to it after a certain limit. In any case, she will not be going to get any attention from my keyboard. Thanks for the response.
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@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
5 May 09
Why should everyone be a 'yesman' here. We should accept others who agree to disagree with our opinions with open mind. Not all discussions are agreeable to all and there bound to have different opinions which then become a challenge to the starter of the post to elaborate on her views which can lead to a healthy debate. This is all what this site is about. Unfortunately you have responded to a post that doesn't need someone who is more vocal and go against the grains. This shows how immature this poster is and she should learn to appreciate all views regardless of pro or against in the spirit of mylot. As the starter of a discussion one must stand neutral and not being provoked by any disagreements that may arise from the post. Otherwise should raise a white flag and quit posting altogether.
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@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
8 May 09
Ordering a friend out of the list is very rude.
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@sanuanu (11235)
• India
8 May 09
Yes Boss. Now, I think about the discussion(it has been 3 days) and think that was she scolding me, after all she asked me to get out of her friends list and she wasn't asking but ordering me which I had to follow. Getting kicked out this way was horrible and yes, she wasn't nice to me! I am happy that she isn't in my friends list.
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@sid556 (30959)
• United States
5 May 09
It is impossible for me t o give you a fair answer without seeing the discussion you are referring to. From what you say here it does sound as if the person was simply looking for others to agree with him and that you were the only one that did not agree and because of that she was rude to you. If that is so...it is wrong. I did look thru several of discussions that you were a part of and did not see this and so without seeing both sides, I can't really give you a fair answer.
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@zed_k4 (17589)
• Singapore
6 May 09
Image: http://www.freedigitalphotos.net - Smiling no matter what the outcome is
I do feel you there in this topic. I have been scolded before too and after been a few years on and off in mylot, I have learned to be very silent about things. Like when it's too hot to handle, I just smile and shrug off and I will have this extra positive attitude. And there was one time that I gave a positive comment back no matter how rude that person was, and I got back a silent reply. So I think that sort of thing works, because he or she would realize that you are here for the enjoyment of discussions, a bit on gentle debates which I think is perfectly alright, otherwise it wouldn't be called a discussion. Don't worry my friend. In my mind, I virtually shake hands with the user whom is dissatisfied with what I have to say or having a misrepresentation or misunderstanding of what I said. At the end of the day, I either smile or shrug it off and the one getting angry is the other party instead of me.
@zed_k4 (17589)
• Singapore
7 May 09
It's alright, all of us learn from mistakes. Let's make this a better place, I'm sure we can.
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@sanuanu (11235)
• India
7 May 09
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@sanuanu (11235)
• India
7 May 09
All, I can say is that I am a little short on patience you know, this was not for the first time that I got affected by online friends. I have history of it with me. In fact it started right from when I started my virtual life on internet!LOL
@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
7 May 09
Hi sanuanu! I think that the essence of myLot is the differences in people and the differences they have to offer within discussions. It is only right that you tell the truth about how you feel about topics. If you don't..it takes away so much from this site. I am suprised you would be treated so badly by someone for a response to their discussion. I always appriciate my responses..even if they are not always the way I think. I hate this has happened to you and I hope you don't let it hinder your participation. You are one of the people who makes myLot what it is.
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@sanuanu (11235)
• India
8 May 09
In fact it did hinder my participation a bit. Now on I am going to post disagreement only to those discussion whose authors are my friends and I know that they would not punish(!) me but would have a healthy arguments with me. I have always enjoyed commenting and responding to you discussion because no matter how boring my responses will be, you still add comments to it!
@djonghs (560)
• Indonesia
5 May 09
A discussion meant to search for a common ground from many different ideas. If we only want to talk about something that everybody agree with, it is not a discussion anymore is just like a chit-chat. Why are we discuss? because we have a different opinions that need to sort out and come with a single conclusion that all agree. I one can not accept other opinions, don't start a discussion. That just my two cents. BR.b
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@sanuanu (11235)
• India
5 May 09
Yes, if one can't handle critisism, then it is better if they put their two cents in their pocket. We all do certain things in life and do get critisized but if don't take it positively, we can never move forward. Thanks for the response
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@Bloggership (1104)
• Indonesia
8 May 09
One things i know about joining a community is to have an open mind. We have to accept other opinions or respond even critics whether we like it or not. We don't have rights forcing someone to be the same thinking with us. Everybody has their own mind.
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@sanuanu (11235)
• India
8 May 09
I really wish that you don't get indulged into those un necessary discussions. I felt very bad that day and did't come to do mylot for next 36 hours or so!
• United States
5 May 09
I think they need to grow up and accept that not everyone will agree with them on every topic. That is what makes the world so great is all the different opinions we all have and that most people accept that is a grat thing. Oters who don't are just stupid and narrow minded. They need to realize that there aremany other opinions in the world not just their's so dont worry about it theyneed to deal with their own issues. Happy Mylotting!
@sanuanu (11235)
• India
7 May 09
Hmm, you are right, people should understand that there are not only cats living in this world, some cats are lions too!
@jayrene (2708)
• Philippines
5 May 09
it's such a shame to hear some people are like that. why post a discussion if you only want to hear what you want to hear... or that person could've added in her post "NO DISAGREEING ALLOWED", then all he/she could've have read are responses agreeing to his/her post. anyway, we can never really please everyone in here or anywhere else. dont let it affect you too much. some people are just like that. you coud've responded back again on how you think about his/her response to your response on the discussion. at least that person would know about how you felt. dont let this incident keep you from responding to other user's discussions...
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@sanuanu (11235)
• India
8 May 09
Here your thinking and my thinking are a little bit different. I have learnt from my experience from mylot that the more you fight, the more you get upset, so I don't reply them back, most of the time. But about the guy who scolded you for not reading the discussion, was that person rude, I would like to read that discussion before making any further comment. Will you please provide me the link, you can pm me that!
@sanuanu (11235)
• India
8 May 09
I am feeling quite better now becaue it has now been three days but I must tell you that it got me affect so badly that I couldn't enjoy myloting for next 36 hours and wasn't at best yesterday. Today I am feeling like top of the world.
@jayrene (2708)
• Philippines
8 May 09
that's good to know you're feeling okay now. the other day i had one response to my response that got into me a bit that i felt a little bit hurt and annoyed, i mean, telling me that i should've read first before posting responses, why do these people make such a remark... of course i read discussion first before posting a response and read responses too. the thing that irked me was that the one who posted the discussion only want to hear what he/she wanted to hear. so i responded back and gave that user a piece of my mind. i think it's rude if people tells those who respond to their discussion something like that. if they dont like the response then i think they just let it pass, and move on to the next response. they should be glad that we, who responds to their discussion took the time to post response to it. as if its that easy to think of a response. im tired of other people always putting me down, so i fight and talk back. next time, if you experience something like that again, then give that person a piece of your mind too, be bold here. dont let anybody put you down. they dont own the place.
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@lexus54 (3572)
• Singapore
5 May 09
I agree with your first sentence. Anyone who starts a discussion has to expect divergent views on the topic thrown up, and sometimes even criticism. Criticisms are not necessarily bad. It's the manner in which they are conveyed that can sometimes be bad and hurtful, and worse still, if the respondent is rude and sarcastic, he/she will come across as offensive. If one can accept genuine criticisms and rebuts with good counter-arguments to these criticisms, there can still be a fruitful exchange of ideas and opinions, and all who participate in the discussion will be winners. Having said all the above, anyone who cannot accept criticisms for their discussions should either not start discussions, or stick to issues which are very safe that will not invite any sort of criticisms from others.
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@sanuanu (11235)
• India
8 May 09
Yes, you are very true. One should have that guts to take critisism about their discussion. No one is perfect and not everyone will be agreeing with me. Even here also, I got one post which was asking me to get to see the discussion before making response, so we must accept every response with pure heart.!
@savypat (20216)
• United States
5 May 09
Sometimes I get really strong in my rebuttal and sometimes I get slammed for my response. The thing to do is not get to wrapped up in the virtual world here on my lot. Some times I get my feelings hurt and then I remember nothing here is real so relax and enjoy and don't forget you have a delete button.
@sanuanu (11235)
• India
6 May 09
Vert true but even if it is all virtual but our mind converts it into reality and that is the biggest problem sometimes!
@parthu28 (498)
• India
5 May 09
i agree with you dear.it has happened to me many times.whenever you say something against their point what you get is something very offensive which disturbs a lot....... but i would like to say this shouldn't stop you from giving your opinion........as mylot is all about discussing things without any hesitations .......if we find these kinds of people here we also find those who value your opinion very very much.........
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@sanuanu (11235)
• India
8 May 09
Hi Parthu, how are you doing? Emm, I think it has done ample damage that next time onwards I will only give a disagreement response to my friends whom I know better. It is never good to get scolded from outsiders or strangers.
@scififan43 (2434)
• United States
5 May 09
You should not be afraid to speak your mind. but one should be polite are respepectful to others when disscussing diffierences of opion. good luck in future dissictions.
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@sanuanu (11235)
• India
6 May 09
I will remember your words! Thanks for responding.
@amolwagh (28)
• India
5 May 09
Yes you are absolutely right. No one has the right to discuss the criticism
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@sanuanu (11235)
• India
8 May 09
Hi Amolwagh, How are you? Are you enjoying lotting? Well, as for you response, I would like to thank you for giving time to my discussion.
• India
5 May 09
Thats not fair!! i guess every individual today has a right to express his/her opinion and there is nothing to feel bad about as you dont have anything against the person in particular but just that ur opinions dont match..
@sanuanu (11235)
• India
6 May 09
Yes, you are very right. I see you have only 6 post against your name? Aren't you active here? Why?
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