Science, Man and God
By ParaTed2k
@ParaTed2k (22940)
Sheboygan, Wisconsin
May 5, 2009 11:49am CST
"Science is man trying to figure out how God does it"~ ParaTed2k's (Not So) Famous Sayings. ;~)
7 responses
@Anora_Eldorath (6028)
• United States
5 May 09
Sounds very similar to what Albert Einstein once wrote:
"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind"
Albert Einstein, "Science, Philosophy and Religion: a Symposium", 1941
Or this one by Paul Carr:
"Science is an effort to understand the creation.
Biblical religion involves our relation to the Creator.
Since we can learn about the Creator from his creation, religion can learn from science."
(Paul H. Carr)
Namaste-Anora
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
6 May 09
Funny how people use Einstein's quotes to back all sorts of things... but they seem to forget this one. :~D
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
6 May 09
Agreed! I think the only ones who insist that only science or religion are right are those who feel threatened by the other one... but that's just me.
@Anora_Eldorath (6028)
• United States
6 May 09
Oh, I love Einstein's comments on religion and science. He was definately a brilliant man who had a true understanding of both worlds. I personally think that science and religion go together, I don't think you can seperate them. They both have the same end goal.
Namaste-Anora
@Frederick42 (2024)
• Canada
6 May 09
Before making the statement that science is figuring out how God does anything, we would have to prove the existence of God. God is only a belief and not a proven fact.
In my opinion, science is discovering and exploring more and more about life and nature. For example, scientists go to Mars and explore it and find out about Mars. But finding out about Mars is not equivalent to saying that we are finding out how God created Mars because we can never be sure about the existence of God.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
6 May 09
Why do we have to prove the existence of God? How many theories and hypotheses does science rely on without actual proof? We have no idea what triggers the prophase of cellular mytosis, but we know something triggers it. We know all matter is made up of elements, but we have no idea what substance(s) elements are made of (for example, what substance is a "quark" made of)... When we learn that, we will probably take a few elements off the periodic table and add a few more.
The bottom line is, much of what we know, we only know because we can quantify the effect they have on other things. But when it comes to God, so many people draw the line and all of the sudden insist on proof separate from effect.
I've often wondered why people demand a higher standard of proof about God than they do about the things of science.
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@Frederick42 (2024)
• Canada
7 May 09
Of course, there is no problem if we do not prove the existence of God.
Yes, not everything in science has actual proof. Science finds out and explores. In the case of theories and hypotheses, science has the humility to say that these are theories and hypotheses. Science does not have answers to all questions, but whatever answers we do have- the vast majority of them have been found out by science.
We know about the functioning of the human body because of science. It is science that has found out so many medicines to so many diseases. It is science that has found out about so many planets, moon etc.. It is science that has found out the fossils.
When it comes to God, people ask for proof because God is supposed to be the creator. Yet he does not reveal himself in a way which we can understand. That is why people ask for proof.
Science is as imperfect as man is. Science is not omniscient, omnipotant and omnipresent. Therefore, it is folly to expect science to prove anything.
But anyway, science does not encourage us to believe blindly anything. The very nature of science is to find out, investigate and explore.
@shivram123 (656)
• India
5 May 09
i liked that quote
another one
"science is man trying to figure out what and why we are"~shivram's {so}famous blunderings :)
@miamilady (4910)
• United States
5 May 09
That works.
It's one way of looking at it.
Of course it depends on the scientist.
Some might be looking to disprove the existence of God.
Other's believe that science somehow "works" with the beliefs of their religion.
I had a friend who as a chemist and also a Christian. I asked her how her scientific theories were complimentary to her religious beliefs.
I can't remember her explanation, but at the time it seemed to make sense.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
6 May 09
It's amazing to me how many people of science and people of God claim that people can't learn from both. For me, I turn to science to teach me the ways of the physical and religion (spirituality) to teach me the ways of the spirit. Neither have enough information to come to a logical conclusion about the other. I don't think that will always be true though.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
6 May 09
Yes, I take credit for the wording, but not the sentiment.
@Adoniah (7513)
• United States
5 May 09
I like it Ted! I have found that Many scientists have a deep belief in a Master Power and an after life.
My Father worked closely with the astronauts and the other scientists at the Cape and Tech Lab, and so I got to meet a lot of them in the 60s and 70s because they often came home with him. They were deeply spiritual people, and many were deeply religious.
I guess when you are out there spinning around the earth, it kind of smacks you in the face.
Shalom~Adoniah
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
6 May 09
Yeah, I know a lot of people of science who also hold deep spiritual beliefs. It seems the only people who insist that they are mutually exclusive are those (on both sides) who want them to be.