Uh-Oh...Mitt Romney Disses Sarah Palin...
By anniepa
@anniepa (27955)
United States
May 5, 2009 11:54am CST
Former GOP Presidential candidate Mitt Romney appeared on CNN's "State of the Union" a few days ago and when he was asked to comment about Time’s inclusion of Sarah Palin and Rush Limbaugh on their list of "The World’s Most Influential People" he said the following:
"I think there are a lot more influential Republicans than that would suggest. But was that the issue on the most beautiful people or the most influential people? I'm not sure. If it's the most beautiful, I understand. We're not real cute."
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0509/22059.html
Romney is part of the new "National Council for a New America" and there had been some speculation about Palin being a part of that group which also includes John McCain and Jeb Bush. Any thoughts?
Annie
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9 responses
@lilwonders456 (8214)
• United States
5 May 09
ya he is upset he is not on the list because he plans on trying to run again. He wants as much positive media attention he can get. The last he wants to be forgotten about.
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@katran (585)
• United States
5 May 09
Honestly, as a conservative myself, I am tired of the fact that everyone is expected to handle Sarah Palin with kid gloves. I don't have to like her just because she was McCain's running mate. I don't have to like her just because she was a Republican. I don't have to like her just because she's a woman. And I DEFINITELY don't have to like her just because the Democrats DON'T like her. And the same goes for Mitt Romney. Where is the rule that says someone can't dislike someone in their own party? Isn't it a feature of a free and independent society that we can all have our own opinions and don't need to ride the party line?
Also, I wouldn't say that's a "diss" so much as a fact. Whose idea was it to put her on a list on The World's Most Influential people? I mean, really? Sarah Palin is one of the WORLD'S MOST influential people? We must have a pretty sad world if that is the case. I applaud Romney for speaking his mind and not feeling that he has to fall in line with all the other Republicans who think they need to worship the ground she walks on for some strange reason.
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@clrumfelt (5490)
• United States
5 May 09
He sounds sexist to me. Intelligent women should be offended by his insinuation that Sarah Palin should be judged by her looks instead of her accomplishments. I don't think he will win any points with women voters when he makes such comments.
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
5 May 09
Well to start I don't think there was a diss at all. I'm not entirely sure where anyone got a diss out of that. Of course your cherry picked quote might give some people that impression, but taking things out of context is a national pastime for liberals. Fortunately, I was actually WATCHING this conversation on TV so I knew right away you were taking it out of context. Here's what he was actually responding to and what he really said.
KING: As you launch this effort, anyone who picks up Time magazine this week and sees the 100 most influential people, will see two Republicans in that magazine. They'll see Sarah Palin and Rush Limbaugh. Is that helpful, hurtful, indifferent?
[After Cantor's response].
ROMNEY: John, I'd like to have a lot more influential Republicans, because I think there are a lot more influential Republicans than that would suggest. But was that the issue on the most beautiful people or the most influential people? I'm not sure. If it's the most beautiful, I understand. We're not real cute.
As everyone can see, not only did you cut out the question, but you also trimmed his response so people would get the wrong impression of what he was saying. Nice try Annie.
It's very clear that he's saying simply that they aren't the only influential republicans. As a party nobody is going to be comfortable with thinking that in a list of 100 people only two republicans made the list, especially since he'd like to be on that list himself. The part about who's beautiful wasn't any sort of diss, just a joke, not unlike when Biden made almost the exact same joke saying one big difference between he and Palin is that she's attractive.
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
5 May 09
I wasn't the one who said it was a "diss", they were discussing it all over the news whether or not it was a diss. "I'm not entirely sure where anyone got a diss out of that." Gee, MAYBE it was his reference to the "Most Beautiful People" issue? MY "cherry picked" quote? Taking things out of context? OK, I'll play this game. "Here's what he was actually responding to..":
KING: As you launch this effort, anyone who picks up Time magazine this week and sees the 100 most influential people, will see two Republicans in that magazine. They'll see Sarah Palin and Rush Limbaugh. Is that helpful, hurtful, indifferent?
Here's what I wrote:
"he was asked to comment about Time’s inclusion of Sarah Palin and Rush Limbaugh on their list of "The World’s Most Influential People".
"... and what he really said":
ROMNEY: John, I'd like to have a lot more influential Republicans, because I think there are a lot more influential Republicans than that would suggest. But was that the issue on the most beautiful people or the most influential people? I'm not sure. If it's the most beautiful, I understand. We're not real cute...
And what I wrote:
"I think there are a lot more influential Republicans than that would suggest. But was that the issue on the most beautiful people or the most influential people? I'm not sure. If it's the most beautiful, I understand. We're not real cute."
I left out, "John, I'd like to have a lot more influential Republicans, because..."
I would hope "everyone can see" the few simple words I left out didn't change the meaning one bit. Nice try Taskr. Of course it's clear Romney was saying Limbaugh and Palin aren't the only influential Republicans and of course he'd feel that way! I'm hardly blaming him for that. I also think what he said about the "most beautiful" list could be taken by some to mean Palin belongs on that list but not the other one.
Annie
@anniepa (27955)
• United States
5 May 09
Not my "fault"? I don't have to defend myself about the discussions I start! If you think you can read my mind, Taskr, go right ahead but I can assure you you can't. The title I chose happens to have been the same title that was used on many of the articles that came up when I searched for a story about the interview. Anyway, if I WAS saying I felt Romney had dissed Palin, how the heck do you come up with this being an attack against Palin? When it comes to her I'm in trouble with you if I even mention her name in a post, aren't I?
Annie
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
5 May 09
"I wasn't the one who said it was a "diss"
You said it in the TITLE OF THE THREAD Annie. You never cease to amaze me when you act like it's not your fault when you start Palin Bashing threads, but now you're not even responsible for the TITLES you choose for you threads? Give me a break Annie.
Your thread was misleading because you claimed they were asking about the inclusion of Sarah Palin and Rush Limbaugh, when in my opinion the conversation was more about who was excluded since those were the only people mentioned in the top 100. By omitting the question nobody reading your thread knew that other republicans were excluded and not considered influential.
The sentence that you trimmed made it appear that he was saying there were Republicans more influential than Palin and Limbaugh, when the statement, taken in context, is clearly him saying that they are not the ONLY influential republicans.
Annie, if your intent was not to deceive or mislead, then WHY did you not type the entire sentence, but rather cherry-pick half the sentence?
@sierras236 (2739)
• United States
6 May 09
Perhaps, this is a case of divide and conquer. Insinuate the idea that one person is against each other. I read the whole conversation. There are a lot more influential republicans than just Palin and Limbaugh. Palin didn't even appear on the radar until McCain brought her in. So she has only had a year and half of publicity most of that was highly personal attacks on her and her family. Looking back, she was not criticized on her stance or her beliefs but on her daughter giving birth and the clothing the RNC bought for her.
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
6 May 09
There was publicity about her daughter's pregnancy, no doubt about that, but I think the main reason for that was her staunch abstinence only position for teens. The clothing also got a lot of attention but that was just a silly diversion. From where I sat most of the criticism Palin got was for her lack of knowledge on the issues and her, her dismal performances in the few interviews she granted, her refusal to answer the questions at the debate and instead resorting to winks and cutesy comments and her divisive attitude at her rallies.
Annie
@anniepa (27955)
• United States
6 May 09
Sierras, I know I don't blame her for her daughter's "mistake" and I certainly have nothing against her daughter either. I was just saying that was the reason that could be used for even making Bristol's pregnancy public. I know there were those ugly rumors that Sarah's baby was really Bristol's, which I honestly hadn't been aware of at all until the Palins themselves announced Bristol's pregnancy, and that was indefensible. I'm very glad the mainstream media refused to report it until after the face when some of them made a brief mention of it. I agree the kids should be left out of it. I also agree the McCain campaign did a terrible job of "handling" Palin. I guess what I'm trying to say is my own opinion was formed by what I heard for myself and what I read from reputable sources about her actual record and stances on issues.
Annie
@sierras236 (2739)
• United States
6 May 09
Most of that was absolutely due to the way the McCain campaign "handled" Palin. I actually blame him for not letting her loose. She should have the same freedom Biden did. Which is to say, she should have been able to voice her opinion whether or not McCain agreed with. But I looked back on other conversations we had here, and I must say most of those are pure unadulterated attacks on her. And really can you blame her for her daughter's mistake? I don't know any parent that can really control a seventeen year old's choices. So Palin believed in abstinence and her daughter choose a different path. What is so wrong with that? It actually happens all the time. I mean did you listen every single time your parents told you not to do something? Unless you were a "perfect" child, no one does.
What I have an absolute problem with is the attack the media launched on her and her family. That alone makes me sympathetic toward her.
It is totally fine, if you don't agree with her on the issues or the way she runs Alaska. That I don't have a problem with. Criticize her all you want on the issues. This is a free country. Just don't involve her kids.
@revellanotvanella (4033)
• United States
6 May 09
So he's jealous, I have to agree politics does become one big circus act and I also agree with his statement "was the issue on the most beautiful.." because I can't say the work she has done in AK is very influential
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
9 May 09
I understand her approval ratings have plummeted in Alaska, from 80+% down to the 50% range. Part of it is due to her gallivanting around the lower 48 instead of taking care of state business and part is due to her being the ONLY governor to turn down the stimulus funds for energy despite Alaska having the highest energy costs in the nation.
Annie
@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
5 May 09
Oh she is getting as much media attention as your demigod? Hmm. That will not do. but then you got a 'president' more on his charm, good looks, color, and empty promises, so what do you expect? Or it could also mean that Palin is not the true Republican that used to be when Reagan was the president. I heard that John McCain was sort of more in the middle as well.
@irishidid (8687)
• United States
5 May 09
I don't know that I would call that a diss. Perhaps he sees Palin as nothing more than "beautiful people". I don't think he's alone in that thought either. There are those who think the same of Obama and I imagine some others. As I said in another post, I'd like to see more voters consider what is good for the country and not just themselves.
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